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kg4lac
Doing some FT4 QSOs on Wednesday evening. Calling CQ and complete the QSO. When the station appears again in the Band Activity I notice WSJT-X then is NOT showing the station as already worked. I rescan the log (Colors tab, click the Rescan ADIF log button). Next time station appears it is, once again, as unworked.
I don't recall this happening if I answer a CQ and successfully complete the QSO. In this case the station appears as already worked. Any ideas? |
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Chuck Gelm
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4.7. Colors 11. Logging On 3/23/23 08:22, kg4lac via groups.io wrote: I notice WSJT-X then is NOT showing the station as already worked.My WSJT-X is configured, using "Colors", to indicate a station already worked when the decoded station calls CQ and is displayed as black text on a white background. If not worked before on current band, mode, grid, ...the decoded station calling CQ is displayed as black text with a non-white background. If a decoded station's transmission was not a standard 'CQ", WSJT-X displays no indication of 'worked-before' status. ----- How are you determining that "WSJT-X then is NOT showing the station as already worked" ? 73, Chuck |
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kg4lac
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4.7. Colors 11. Logging I have WSJT-X configured to show already worked as black text on a white background. However, this is not working if I initiate the QSO by calling CQ. Next time station appears in the Band Activity the station is colored (indicating it has not been worked). If I answer someone calling CQ and complete the QSO, then station already worked coloring (black text on a white background) is working as expected. |
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Chuck Gelm
On 3/23/23 10:06, kg4lac via groups.io wrote:
Based on"/However, this is not working if I initiate the QSO by calling CQ. // //Next time station appears in the Band Activity the station is colored (indicating it has not been worked)./ " If the 'Next time station appears in the Band Activity' window that station is calling you, it may appear in colored highlighting, if 'Colors' setting 'My Call in message' is enabled. Else, if 'CQ in message' is enabled in 'Colors', every decoded station calling CQ is colored. Else, if colored and not calling you and not calling CQ, there may be a problem. 73, Chuck |
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kg4lac
Yes, the station is not calling me. They are calling CQ. I already completed a successful QSO with the station, but the station still appears with colors (instead of the expected black text on white background indicating I've already worked them.)
I've only noticed this behavior when I call CQ and complete a successful QSO. If I answer a station calling CQ and successfully complete the QSO then everything works (next time the station appears in the Band Activity it is the expected black text on white background indicating I've already worked the station) as expected. |
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Reino Talarmo
kg4lac via groups.ioHi, could you explain to us how you have configured worked stations as black text on a white background? I need to ask that as I cannot figure out how to do it. The applied logic for worked before is to select the first color that fulfills condition *not worked before* starting from top to down. In the Colors window there is the list of various reasons to indicate, which kind of interest item is *not* worked. As default that list ends 'CQ in message' (the 'Transmitted message' is not used for received messages). A worked station calling CQ on the same band, mode and grid fulfills all but the 'CQ in message' condition, so the color on that line will be used. Have you configured that CQ line with black text on the white background? I've only noticed this behavior when I call CQ and complete a successful QSO.I have no explanation why the way how you completed a QSO could affect how the worked before color is presented. I can only think that you have not logged the QSO your stated by calling CQ. Of course you can check that by looking into the wsjtx_log.adi file. It would help a lot to know how you have configured the Colors and which color/interest item is shown although you have already worked that station. 73, Reino OH3mA |
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Bob K6UJ
I would also like to know how you configured the black text on white background for worked stations. It looks lke a cool way to confirm working them.
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Bob K6UJ On Mar 24, 2023, at 7:30 AM, Reino Talarmo <reino.talarmo@...> wrote:kg4lac via groups.ioHi, could you explain to us how you have configured worked stations as black text on a white background? I need to ask that as I cannot figure out how to do it. The applied logic for worked before is to select the first color that fulfills condition *not worked before* starting from top to down. |
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I have had the following color scheme working since the early days WSJTx.
My items and their colors in order from top to bottom: ✔ My Call in Message (black on red) - Obvious, I'm being called New Grid on Band (yellow on blue) - Only used on 6m FFMA chase (not typically checked) ✔ New DXCC on Band (black on pink) - Probably not an ATNO, but new to the current band/mode ✔ New Call on Band (black on light blue) - Worked this country B4, but not this station ✔ CQ in message (red on black) - Only shows this if that station has FALIED the previous items ✔ Transmitted message (black on yellow) - Again obvious, I'm transmitting --- No others are typically used as they tend to conflict with what I want to see --- This is structured like a "decision tree". As each decision fails to match, it falls to the next one down. The first 4 are obvious and do exactly as expected to prioritize a stations status. The "CQ" message it the great one. If all the previous ones fail, then I MUST have worked the station on the current band/mode, so on purpose it's very hard to read, thus pretty much ignored. This tells me everything I want to know at a glance. However, compound "xx0/xx0xxxx" or non-standard "<xx00xxxxx>" calls frequently fail to highlight at any point, it's just a "given" that I understand. I also use JTAlert and have its colors set to match WSJTx, for the most part. So, I get a LOT of red on black highlights which leaves the unhighlighted stations (either called or calling) totally obvious they have not been worked on the current band. If neither station on a contact line has been worked, then JTA does not highlight either one on that line and they show up as normal black text on the window white background until they call CQ and the highlight tree will then take effect, probably a new call on band highlight. Bottom line is that only the 2nd, 3rd and 4th highlights above are of interest to me and thus always stand out. I do not use the JTA Callsign screen as it takes too long to fully populate and doesn't tell me much that the WSJTx Band Activity window at highlighted does not. However, I do use the callsign window to see if station uses the JTA F5 messaging system. But the JTA highlights and announcements are a most welcome addition to WSJTx. Overall, the highlights are perfect for working on the LoTW DeSota Challenge points. -- 73's George - WB5JJJ Hams over IP #100105 |
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Chuck Gelm
On 3/24/23 09:52, kg4lac via groups.io wrote:
Yes, the station is not calling me. They are calling CQ. I already completed a successful QSO with the station, but the station still appears with colors (instead of the expected black text on white background indicating I've already worked them.)Are you logging the contact after 'a successful QSO with the station'? I've only noticed this behavior when I call CQ and complete a successful QSO. If I answer a station calling CQ and successfully complete the QSO then everything works (next time the station appears in the Band Activity it is the expected black text on white background indicating I've already worked the station) as expected. |
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Chuck Gelm
On 3/24/23 10:39, Bob K6UJ wrote:
I would also like to know how you configured the black text on white background for worked stations. It looks lke a cool way to confirm working them.Hi, Bob: Default is black text with white background for all lines in 'Band Activity'. If a box is checked in 'Colors' and if the decoded station is calling CQ, then a background color MAY appear. If the decoded station is not calling CQ or not calling you, then the background should be white. 73, Chuck |
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Bob K6UJ
OK, Thanks Chuck
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Bob K6UJ K Bob On Mar 24, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Chuck Gelm <nc8q-aredn@...> wrote: |
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kg4lac
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 10:00 AM, Chuck Gelm wrote:
Yes, of course. |
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I am sooo confused.... is there a problem with worked before? My worked before is not working as well. wsjtx_log.adi is filled and scanned. when I work a station and log it.... the next time he calls CQ he still has a green background.
Can anyone shed some light on this. I have been working on this on all day. Thanks for any input Barry KY4K |
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gksmith_1
Good evening,
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I had sent this off to the WSJT-X forum to a few people. This is how you change the lines so that you do not have every CQ highlighted in green and only have highlighted those stations whom you have not worked before. Go into WSJT-X, Settings, Colors, select the one for "CQ in message", right click on that one, select "Background Color" and change it to "white", click OK, now move, (left click and hold, and drag up the listing), the selections for "New Call" and "New Call on Band"respectively to the top of the list, and OK out of the Colors section. Make sure that you have a checkmark in front of the "New Call" and "New Call on Band" choices. Also, make sure to leave the "CQ in message choice at the bottom of the list. Now, none of the stations calling CQ will be highlighted at all, unless it is a station that you have never worked before.... then they will be highlighted as light cyan, or dark cyan in color.... removes all the stations that you have worked B4. Easy work-around. 73 de WA3ZSC - Jerry On 03-24-2023 18:54:12, Barry KY4K wrote:
I am sooo confused.... is there a problem with worked before? My worked before is not working as well. wsjtx_log.adi is filled and scanned. when I work a station and log it.... the next time he calls CQ he still has a green background. |
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Reino Talarmo
gksmith_1Hi Jerry, Your solution is perhaps too complete. I would keep the "New Call" and "New Call on Band" at the bottom just above the modified "CQ in message" line as I would get also information e.g. about New DXCC, New Grid etc. and only the already worked individual CQ line would be white background. I may just not tick those lines I am not interested in. By the way I have not checked how the new feature "Highlight also messages with 73 or RR73" works in that respect, perhaps in the same manner. 73, Reino OH3mA |
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gksmith_1
Hi Reino,
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You are correct. I personally haven't had any goals that I wanted to pursue, I just like to work whomever I have never made contact with before.... Indeed, my solution does not allow for any other indications than just the stations whom I have never worked before... I guess this is a case of "Your Mileage May Vary" in the use of my method. As you say, putting the "New Call" and "New Call on Band" just above the "CQ in message" would be a prudent method to allow the other detection methods a chance to work as well..... When I decided to use this method I was also in the same boat as the others who got tired of having every CQ being highlighted, even those stations that they had worked B4. So, I decided to use the brute force method to remove the highlighting that I did not want to see.... Not very elegant, but surely effective....For my purposes. Lol.... I appreciate your insight into a much more flexible method to accomplish the same goal while allowing for all such alerts to be available... I will modify my setup to use these features.. Thank you. 73 de WA3ZSC - Jerry On 03-25-2023 06:26:02, Reino Talarmo wrote:
gksmith_1Hi Jerry, |
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I have run into the same problem Barry. One computer does fine the other one won't do the worked B4.
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Let me know if you solve the problem? On 3/24/2023 5:54 PM, Barry KY4K wrote:
I am sooo confused.... is there a problem with worked before? My worked before is not working as well. wsjtx_log.adi is filled and scanned. when I work a station and log it.... the next time he calls CQ he still has a green background.-- 73'S DE NU4N DAVE --
*73'S DAVE NU4N* |
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Reino Talarmo
David TuckerHi Dave, Do you mean that worked before station has a green background? That is the default setting on the out of the box wsjt-x. One computer does fine the other one won't do the worked B4.You need to be more specific how you see the difference and whether your Colors settings and the General | Display selection 'Show DXCC, grid, and worked before status' are selected in the same manner. Also have you the same wsjtx_log.adi file in both computers in the log directory? 73, Reino OH3mA |
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skip_osborn
Hi Guys,
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I’m new here and thought that I might add something that I tried to quickly identify a needed status. I have a little trouble quickly identifying between the dark colors vs a lighter tint, causing me a time delay to double click on it. My solution was to make the foreground color (the type face) to white. So, as soon as I see any color with a white type I immediately click on it. This method doesn’t change the basic bar colors, whether the default or a new set. The only drawback is it is a little hard to read the information but that can wait while the transmissions proceeds. Skip, K2RJF On Mar 25, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Reino Talarmo <reino.talarmo@...> wrote:David TuckerHi Dave, |
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kg4lac
Since there were a number of different threads in regard to my OP.
Any solution for the problem of calling CQ, completing a QSO and station not appearing as already worked in the Band Activity? Once again, everything works fine when I answer a station's CQ and complete a QSO. Then, the station is correctly colored as already worked in the Band Activity. |
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