locked FT8 F/H Not showing Hounds when calling Fox #FT8


 

My WSJT-X is v2.6.0-rc5. In FT8 Hound mode, I listen to the Fox, set my TX frequency, and press "Activate TX". WSJT-X then transmits to the Fox at 00 and 30. But during the RX periodes (15/45), I can't see the other Hounds. They are absent from GUI and the waterfall. That is annoying. How can I find an idle TX frequency, when the other Hounds are not shown during RX?

Is WSJT-X supposed to work like this? Or am I missing something?

73 OZ1BXM Lars


Larry Banks
 

You cannot see the other hounds as they are transmitting at the same time as you are.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ

On 12/5/2022 4:02, oz1bxm_lars_petersen wrote:
My WSJT-X is v2.6.0-rc5. In FT8 Hound mode, I listen to the Fox, set my TX frequency, and press "Activate TX". WSJT-X then transmits to the Fox at 00 and 30. But during the RX periodes (15/45), I can't see the other Hounds. They are absent from GUI and the waterfall. That is annoying. How can I find an idle TX frequency, when the other Hounds are not shown during RX?

Is WSJT-X supposed to work like this? Or am I missing something?

73 OZ1BXM Lars





Reino Talarmo
 

Lars,
If you are not transmitting and activate selection "Rx All Freqs" at the lower middle, then you will see other hounds.

73, Reino OH3mA

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Banks via groups.io
Sent: 5. joulukuutata 2022 18:00
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT8 F/H Not showing Hounds when calling Fox #FT8

You cannot see the other hounds as they are transmitting at the same time as you are.
se
73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ


On 12/5/2022 4:02, oz1bxm_lars_petersen wrote:
My WSJT-X is v2.6.0-rc5. In FT8 Hound mode, I listen to the Fox, set my TX frequency, and press "Activate TX". WSJT-X then transmits to the Fox at 00 and 30. But during the RX periodes (15/45), I can't see the other Hounds. They are absent from GUI and the waterfall. That is annoying. How can I find an idle TX frequency, when the other Hounds are not shown during RX?

Is WSJT-X supposed to work like this? Or am I missing something?

73 OZ1BXM Lars






Dave (NK7Z)
 

Every three or so calls, I cease transmissions, take a look for open spaces, then change transmit frequency to an open location, and begin the call cycle again.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 12/5/22 08:38, Reino Talarmo wrote:
Lars,
If you are not transmitting and activate selection "Rx All Freqs" at the lower middle, then you will see other hounds.
73, Reino OH3mA
-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Banks via groups.io
Sent: 5. joulukuutata 2022 18:00
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT8 F/H Not showing Hounds when calling Fox #FT8
You cannot see the other hounds as they are transmitting at the same time as you are.
se
73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ
On 12/5/2022 4:02, oz1bxm_lars_petersen wrote:
My WSJT-X is v2.6.0-rc5. In FT8 Hound mode, I listen to the Fox, set my TX frequency, and press "Activate TX". WSJT-X then transmits to the Fox at 00 and 30. But during the RX periodes (15/45), I can't see the other Hounds. They are absent from GUI and the waterfall. That is annoying. How can I find an idle TX frequency, when the other Hounds are not shown during RX?

Is WSJT-X supposed to work like this? Or am I missing something?

73 OZ1BXM Lars






Dave Garber <ve3wej@...>
 

Reino, if he is in F/H should he not be transmitting at 15/45, and
listening at 00/30.. sounds like it is not actually in f/h mode

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:38 AM Reino Talarmo <reino.talarmo@...>
wrote:

Lars,
If you are not transmitting and activate selection "Rx All Freqs" at the
lower middle, then you will see other hounds.

73, Reino OH3mA

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Larry Banks via groups.io
Sent: 5. joulukuutata 2022 18:00
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT8 F/H Not showing Hounds when calling Fox #FT8

You cannot see the other hounds as they are transmitting at the same time
as you are.
se
73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ


On 12/5/2022 4:02, oz1bxm_lars_petersen wrote:
My WSJT-X is v2.6.0-rc5. In FT8 Hound mode, I listen to the Fox, set my
TX frequency, and press "Activate TX". WSJT-X then transmits to the Fox at
00 and 30. But during the RX periodes (15/45), I can't see the other
Hounds. They are absent from GUI and the waterfall. That is annoying. How
can I find an idle TX frequency, when the other Hounds are not shown during
RX?

Is WSJT-X supposed to work like this? Or am I missing something?

73 OZ1BXM Lars
















Reino Talarmo
 

Dave, are you saying that he is not a Fox nor Hound?
When I am in the Hound mode, then my transmitter starts at 15/45.
I never read the original message carefully, sri.
So it is unclear whether Lars is in the Hound mode in first place!
If he is sending at the Fox timeslot, he should see all Hounds, hi!
I am lost or there is some misunderstanding.

73, Reino OH3mA

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Garber
Sent: 5. joulukuutata 2022 21:32
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT8 F/H Not showing Hounds when calling Fox #FT8

Reino, if he is in F/H should he not be transmitting at 15/45, and
listening at 00/30.. sounds like it is not actually in f/h mode

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:38 AM Reino Talarmo <reino.talarmo@...>
wrote:

Lars,
If you are not transmitting and activate selection "Rx All Freqs" at
the lower middle, then you will see other hounds.

73, Reino OH3mA

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Larry Banks via groups.io
Sent: 5. joulukuutata 2022 18:00
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT8 F/H Not showing Hounds when calling Fox #FT8

You cannot see the other hounds as they are transmitting at the same
time as you are.
se
73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ


On 12/5/2022 4:02, oz1bxm_lars_petersen wrote:
My WSJT-X is v2.6.0-rc5. In FT8 Hound mode, I listen to the Fox, set
my
TX frequency, and press "Activate TX". WSJT-X then transmits to the
Fox at
00 and 30. But during the RX periodes (15/45), I can't see the other
Hounds. They are absent from GUI and the waterfall. That is annoying.
How can I find an idle TX frequency, when the other Hounds are not
shown during RX?

Is WSJT-X supposed to work like this? Or am I missing something?

73 OZ1BXM Lars
















 

I am in FT8 Hound mode and WSJT-X transmits at 15/45 because "Activate TX" is depressed. I cannot hear other Hounds when transmitting, obviously. But during the RX periodes 00/30, the Fox is transmitting, and I can see and decode him. However, I cannot see the other Hounds during 00/30, and that annoys me. It makes it difficult for me: Am I on a free frequency, or am I being "stomped on" by one of the big Hounds?

I can switch "Activate TX" off, then all Hounds are visible and decoded. However, this seems to me as a cumbersome way of operation.

OZ1BXM Lars


 

Hello again,

PROBLEM SOLVED. My understanding of F/H has been improved greatly. Here is my NEW perspective:

In FT8 F/H mode with me as Hound and "Activate TX" depressed, the cycle goes like this:

00 Fox transmits, all Hounds are silent. I see Fox on the waterfall and I decode him.
15 All Hounds (including me) transmit. I cannot see other Hounds because I am transmitting.
30 Fox transmits again, all Hounds are silent.
45 All Hounds (including me) transmit again; nothing on the waterfall.

In order to see the other Hounds, I have to cancel "Activate TX" and listen normally. Then all Hounds will be displayed and decoded.

Vy 73 OZ1BXM Lars