Locked WSJTX FT8 on FT-991A with no Power Output (PO) #transmit


RozandAlMulherin@...
 

HELP!!

I’ve busted hump and worn out YouTube for a couple days now trying to get WSJT-X to work FT8 on my 991A. Everything has been set up according to MANY different suggestions on YouTube and in various forums. No matter what, I CANNOT get any Power Output (PO) on my rig. The TEST comes back green and the PTT test activates the transmit on the rig but there is no PO. Someone surely has had this problem and I hope can help one frustrated son-of-a-gun! Thanks! KR0ZAL

Settings in WSJT-X are currently
31- 38400 (Tried 4800 and 9600 also)
32 100msec
33 Disable (Tried Enable with several other setting variations as well)
60 Off
62 Others
66 Off
68 Off (Tried 3000)
72 USB (Tried RTS with several other settings)
106 Rear (Also tried MIC)
107 20 (Also tried 50)
108 RTS (Also tried DAKY)
109 USB (Also tries DATA)

NF, NB, CONT, DNR, DNF all OFF
AGC AUTO
ATT OFF
NARROW/WIDE 3000
Width 3000Hz
VOX OFF
DT GAIN Tried various points between 8 and 50
RF Power Tried various points between 25 and 100w

In WSJT-X

Data Bits 8
Stop Bits 2
Handshake Hardware
PTT Method RTS
Mode USB (Have tried the other options)
Split Rig (Have tried the other options)

I've also tried another suggested method of putting everything data related to default in the 991A settings and just having 108 RTS and 109 USB. NOPE!
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.


Brian Stucker
 

Try this link.

https://www.w6pql.com/misc/wsjt-x/ft991-wsjt-x.pdf

Your settings for 70 and 71 are probably incorrect and/or you don’t have
the right audio endpoints setup in WSJT. You want 70 to be rear, and 71 to
be DAKY.

If you want to test, turn the power on the 991A all the way down or better
yet use a dummy load, hit the tune button on WSJT as watch the AGC/PO
meter. If it doesn’t move, reach over at key up the hand mic and tap the
front. If the AGC/PO moves then 70 is set to MIC instead of REAR.

I’m not a huge fan of the 991A menus. I’ve set WSJT up on several rigs with
USB inputs and the 991A is by far the least obvious to set up. It doesn’t
help that there are many fewer setup guides for the 991A as compared to
other rigs like the IC-7300.

Since you seem to have PTT and CAT working with what you have now, leave it
as is until you get a known good setup. That said, you’re actually
configuring a serial connection for frequency, mode, and PTT commands and a
separate audio path. Settings like RTS/DTS won’t have any effect on the
signal sent out other than as part of the serial communication to tell the
991A to key up.

Also, be aware that the 991 will happily have you set everything up to work
with USB and USB-D. Be sure you are setting everything up with DATA and
that WSJT is configured to tell the rig to use DATA mode. If you don’t do
this you might get everything working only to discover that you have
configured everything for USB instead of USB-D such that your normal SSB
phone setup clashes with WSJT.

73,
Brian - KB2S

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 12:24 AM <RozandAlMulherin@...> wrote:

HELP!!

I’ve busted hump and worn out YouTube for a couple days now trying to get
WSJT-X to work FT8 on my 991A. Everything has been set up according to MANY
different suggestions on YouTube and in various forums. No matter what, I
CANNOT get any Power Output (PO) on my rig. The TEST comes back green and
the PTT test activates the transmit on the rig but there is no PO. Someone
surely has had this problem and I hope can help one frustrated
son-of-a-gun! Thanks! KR0ZAL

Settings in WSJT-X are currently
31- 38400 (Tried 4800 and 9600 also)
32 100msec
33 Disable (Tried Enable with several other setting variations as
well)
60 Off
62 Others
66 Off
68 Off (Tried 3000)
72 USB (Tried RTS with several other settings)
106 Rear (Also tried MIC)
107 20 (Also tried 50)
108 RTS (Also tried DAKY)
109 USB (Also tries DATA)

NF, NB, CONT, DNR, DNF all OFF
AGC AUTO
ATT OFF
NARROW/WIDE 3000
Width 3000Hz
VOX OFF
DT GAIN Tried various points between 8 and 50
RF Power Tried various points between 25 and 100w

In WSJT-X

Data Bits 8
Stop Bits 2
Handshake Hardware
PTT Method RTS
Mode USB (Have tried the other options)
Split Rig (Have tried the other options)

I've also tried another suggested method of putting everything data
related to default in the 991A settings and just having 108 RTS and 109
USB. NOPE!
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.






SteveO - KC5NK
 

I see from his settings that the radio has RTS off, but he is using RTS for PTT.
================My WSJT-X settings:================
Radio Tab:-----------------* Serial Port :    <use the serial port that is the "enhanced" port from Yaesu drivers>* Baud Rate:          38400* Data Bits :           Default* Stop Bits :           Default* Handshake :       None* PTT Method:       CAT* Mode :                 Data/Pkt* Split Operation:   Rig

Audio Tab:---------------Soundcard  * Input    : Microphone (USB Audio CODEC)  * Output : Speakers (USB Audio CODEC)
================In the FT991a radio:================
031 - CAT Rate:                38400bps032 - CAT TOT:                 100mSec033 - CAT RTS :                Disable062 - Data Mode :              Others064 - Other Disp (SSB) :   1500 Hz065 - Other Shift (SSB) :    1500 Hz070 - Data In Select:          Rear071 - Data PTT Select :     DAKY072 - Data Port Select :     USB073 - Data Out Level :       15

This should be able to get you to work WSJT-X.   When testing for power output, use the [TUNE] button in WSJT-x main screen.   it will generate a tone for the radio to modulate.    I adjust the radio for about 20W output and then use the WSJT-x [Pwr] slider down until ALC drops without dropping output power (20W if you set to 20W).   If power level drops, then increase the WSJT-x [Pwr] slider up until Power output is at radio settings.   This is as low as you'll get ALC.
For receive, to adjust WSJT-X receive level (30 with no signal present;  60 with signals) adjust Data Out Level - (073).   For my setup 15 works fine.   
Hope this helps you get back on track.
Best regards,     Steve   -    KC5NK On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 04:03:38 AM CDT, Brian Stucker <me@...> wrote:

Try this link.

https://www.w6pql.com/misc/wsjt-x/ft991-wsjt-x.pdf

Your settings for 70 and 71 are probably incorrect and/or you don’t have
the right audio endpoints setup in WSJT. You want 70 to be rear, and 71 to
be DAKY.

If you want to test, turn the power on the 991A all the way down or better
yet use a dummy load, hit the tune button on WSJT as watch the AGC/PO
meter. If it doesn’t move, reach over at key up the hand mic and tap the
front. If the AGC/PO moves then 70 is set to MIC instead of REAR.

I’m not a huge fan of the 991A menus. I’ve set WSJT up on several rigs with
USB inputs and the 991A is by far the least obvious to set up. It doesn’t
help that there are many fewer setup guides for the 991A as compared to
other rigs like the IC-7300.

Since you seem to have PTT and CAT working with what you have now, leave it
as is until you get a known good setup. That said, you’re actually
configuring a serial connection for frequency, mode, and PTT commands and a
separate audio path. Settings like RTS/DTS won’t have any effect on the
signal sent out other than as part of the serial communication to tell the
991A to key up.

Also, be aware that the 991 will happily have you set everything up to work
with USB and USB-D. Be sure you are setting everything up with DATA and
that WSJT is configured to tell the rig to use DATA mode. If you don’t do
this you might get everything working only to discover that you have
configured everything for USB instead of USB-D such that your normal SSB
phone setup clashes with WSJT.

73,
Brian - KB2S

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 12:24 AM <RozandAlMulherin@...> wrote:

HELP!!

I’ve busted hump and worn out YouTube for a couple days now trying to get
WSJT-X to work FT8 on my 991A. Everything has been set up according to MANY
different suggestions on YouTube and in various forums. No matter what, I
CANNOT get any Power Output (PO) on my rig. The TEST comes back green and
the PTT test activates the transmit on the rig but there is no PO. Someone
surely has had this problem and I hope can help one frustrated
son-of-a-gun! Thanks! KR0ZAL

Settings in WSJT-X are currently
31-    38400  (Tried 4800 and 9600 also)
32      100msec
33      Disable (Tried Enable with several other setting variations as
well)
60      Off
62      Others
66      Off
68      Off (Tried 3000)
72      USB (Tried RTS with several other settings)
106    Rear (Also tried MIC)
107    20 (Also tried 50)
108    RTS (Also tried DAKY)
109    USB (Also tries DATA)

NF, NB, CONT, DNR, DNF all OFF
AGC AUTO
ATT  OFF
NARROW/WIDE  3000
Width 3000Hz
VOX OFF
DT GAIN Tried various points between 8 and 50
RF Power Tried various points between 25 and 100w

In WSJT-X

Data Bits      8
Stop Bits      2
Handshake Hardware
PTT Method          RTS
Mode          USB (Have tried the other options)
Split              Rig (Have tried the other options)

I've also tried another suggested method of putting everything data
related to default in the 991A settings and just having 108 RTS and 109
USB. NOPE!
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.






RozandAlMulherin@...
 

Hey guys! Thanks for getting back to me on this. Been working all week so didn't get a chance to play with it until last evening. According to your settings, Brian, I was able to get some Power Output. I started at 20 watts and have worked my way up to 50. I started with a DT Gain of 18 and worked my way up to 50. At 50 watts my ALC is almost full scale with the WSJTX slider at about 50%. I put out a CQ call numerous times at different points where there was plenty of activity on 20 meters and 40 meters. Though my CQ shows up on the right side of the WSJTX screen, it never appears on the left side and I haven't been able to get a single reply to my CQ call or any attempt to answer others' CQ calls. Still something missing in the mix or that I have got set not quite right. Suggestions, anyone????? And, thanks in advance!


d_ziolkowski
 

your cq will never show on the left, that is the receive when you are not
transmitting.

Go to https://hamspots.net/ to see if anyone is hearing you.

Thanks Dan KC2STA

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 7:19 PM <RozandAlMulherin@...> wrote:

Hey guys! Thanks for getting back to me on this. Been working all week so
didn't get a chance to play with it until last evening. According to your
settings, Brian, I was able to get some Power Output. I started at 20 watts
and have worked my way up to 50. I started with a DT Gain of 18 and worked
my way up to 50. At 50 watts my ALC is almost full scale with the WSJTX
slider at about 50%. I put out a CQ call numerous times at different points
where there was plenty of activity on 20 meters and 40 meters. Though my CQ
shows up on the right side of the WSJTX screen, it never appears on the
left side and I haven't been able to get a single reply to my CQ call or
any attempt to answer others' CQ calls. Still something missing in the mix
or that I have got set not quite right. Suggestions, anyone????? And,
thanks in advance!





--
Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA
SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX


Gilbert Baron
 

Interesting. I am having no FT mode problems but wonder what that hamspots is. I went to the link but there is no documentation at all about what it does and how to use it.

Outlook LT Gil W0MN
Hierro Candente Batir de Repente
44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of d_ziolkowski
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 6:26 PM
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] WSJTX FT8 on FT-991A with no Power Output (PO) #transmit

your cq will never show on the left, that is the receive when you are not transmitting.

Go to https://hamspots.net/ to see if anyone is hearing you.

Thanks Dan KC2STA

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 7:19 PM <RozandAlMulherin@...> wrote:

Hey guys! Thanks for getting back to me on this. Been working all week
so didn't get a chance to play with it until last evening. According
to your settings, Brian, I was able to get some Power Output. I
started at 20 watts and have worked my way up to 50. I started with a
DT Gain of 18 and worked my way up to 50. At 50 watts my ALC is almost
full scale with the WSJTX slider at about 50%. I put out a CQ call
numerous times at different points where there was plenty of activity
on 20 meters and 40 meters. Though my CQ shows up on the right side of
the WSJTX screen, it never appears on the left side and I haven't been
able to get a single reply to my CQ call or any attempt to answer
others' CQ calls. Still something missing in the mix or that I have
got set not quite right. Suggestions, anyone????? And, thanks in advance!





--
Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA
SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX








--
W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop


Mike Black
 

You simply sign up for an account (at the bottom of the page) and then login when you get the confirmation email.
The site will give you and idea where you are being spotted, if your DT times look OK, and what signal levels others see you at.
I use it mainly for checking DT and signal reports.
Mike W9MDB

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 06:39:22 PM CDT, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

Interesting. I am having no FT mode problems but wonder what that hamspots is. I went to the link but there is no documentation at all about what it does and how to use it.

Outlook LT Gil W0MN
Hierro Candente Batir de Repente
44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb


-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of d_ziolkowski
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 6:26 PM
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] WSJTX FT8 on FT-991A with no Power Output (PO) #transmit

your cq will never show on the left, that is the receive when you are not transmitting.

Go to https://hamspots.net/ to see if anyone is hearing you.

Thanks Dan KC2STA

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 7:19 PM <RozandAlMulherin@...> wrote:

Hey guys! Thanks for getting back to me on this. Been working all week
so didn't get a chance to play with it until last evening. According
to your settings, Brian, I was able to get some Power Output. I
started at 20 watts and have worked my way up to 50. I started with a
DT Gain of 18 and worked my way up to 50. At 50 watts my ALC is almost
full scale with the WSJTX slider at about 50%. I put out a CQ call
numerous times at different points where there was plenty of activity
on 20 meters and 40 meters. Though my CQ shows up on the right side of
the WSJTX screen, it never appears on the left side and I haven't been
able to get a single reply to my CQ call or any attempt to answer
others' CQ calls. Still something missing in the mix or that I have
got set not quite right. Suggestions, anyone????? And, thanks in advance!





--
Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA
SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX








--
W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop


Mike Black
 

Set your rig to 50W and set the WSJT-X power slider to -3dB.  Then adjust DT Gain so you get a touch less then 25W out.  -3db with the rig at 50W should be ~25W.You should see no ALC action.As you increase the power slider in WSJT-X (you can just click on it and use the cursor up/down keys) you will probably see the ALC start coming up around 40-45W.A little ALC should be OK but I'm not sure of the ALC behavior on the 991A.  Run WSJTX to full power and then adjust DT Gain to get 45W (you should already be close).  If you then turn the rig to 100W you should see 90W -- and that's close enough to full power and should guarantee a clean signal.
Rigs tend to show RMS power and not peak power -- and peak power is where the clipping will start.
Mike W9MDB

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 06:19:44 PM CDT, RozandAlMulherin@... <rozandalmulherin@...> wrote:

Hey guys! Thanks for getting back to me on this. Been working all week so didn't get a chance to play with it until last evening. According to your settings, Brian, I was able to get some Power Output. I started at 20 watts and have worked my way up to 50. I started with a DT Gain of 18 and worked my way up to 50. At 50 watts my ALC is almost full scale with the WSJTX slider at about 50%. I put out a CQ call numerous times at different points where there was plenty of activity on 20 meters and 40 meters. Though my CQ shows up on the right side of the WSJTX screen, it never appears on the left side and I haven't been able to get a single reply to my CQ call or any attempt to answer others' CQ calls. Still something missing in the mix or that I have got set not quite right. Suggestions, anyone????? And, thanks in advance!


RozandAlMulherin@...
 

That's what I like more than anything about this hobby; fellow hams are ready to share all they can to help out guys like me that get hung up. GREAT BUNCH OF PEOPLE!! Thanks to all of you for helping. I was able to determine that the Application Sound settings on my PC needed to be a 100% for the com port to put out proper signaling to the rig. Once I adjusted that up and put some of your collective recommendations to work, we were able to get quite a few QSOs. We will keep refining the signal quality and trying to get the best possible settings on the 991a and PC to make things work top shelf. Again..thanks to everyone who offered help!! VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. 73 KR0ZAL.


Duane
 

Went thru the same thing a few days ago with rig keying but no output, uninstalled WSJTX and reinstalled with the same problem. Finally figured it out, the daughter had audio muted on the laptop, pushed the mute button on and all is now good. 73 Duane AC4ZH


Earl Needham
 

Is this for digital only?

Tnx,
Earl
KD5XB

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:52 AM Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98=
yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

You simply sign up for an account (at the bottom of the page) and then
login when you get the confirmation email.
The site will give you and idea where you are being spotted, if your DT
times look OK, and what signal levels others see you at.
I use it mainly for checking DT and signal reports.
Mike W9MDB


d_ziolkowski
 

Digital and RTTY

Dan KC2STA

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 4:35 PM Earl Needham <earl.kd5xb@...> wrote:

Is this for digital only?

Tnx,
Earl
KD5XB

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:52 AM Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98=
yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

You simply sign up for an account (at the bottom of the page) and then
login when you get the confirmation email.
The site will give you and idea where you are being spotted, if your DT
times look OK, and what signal levels others see you at.
I use it mainly for checking DT and signal reports.
Mike W9MDB




--
Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA
SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX


若鳥 陸夫
 

There are several reasons without audio or no output.

Make sure the followings:
1.Your send frequency by WSJT-X whether 1400Hz-1600Hz or not?
2. MENU NUMBER 64 and MENU NUMBER 65 in FT-991,
Both are 1500Hz if TX frequency is over 2000Hz.

Rick 7L1RLL


若鳥 陸夫
 

Menu number 071 is different from my setting on FT-991A. My setting for menu number 071 is DTR instead DAKY.
And my setting for PTT Method is DTR instead CAT.
I hope this may be help you.

Rick 7L1RLL