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locked How Do you connect 4U1UN ? #FreqCal
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André C
Hello group, I was wondering how Do you contact 4U1UN ? Because I don't see Them calling CQ and Then, they appear on the band activity Window and everybody are calling Them ... Wtf ... How Do they operate ? Are they calling on a différent fréquency so nobody are seeing Them ? Allô, Do they acknowlage on LoTW or eQSL after they make contact ? I've been Trying my ass for Many Time to try to contact Them without any success. What is your trick ? How Do you Do it ? Thanks for keeping me inform si I could finally ne able to contact Them. 73 André VE2WNF
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Earl Needham
I worked them in 2006, and as I recall, it was fairly random. I just
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happened to be on the frequency they started calling CQ on. I got in right away, but it was pretty crazy when I signed with them. BTW, this was on 17-meter CW. Vy 7 3, Earl KD5XB
On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 10:27 AM André C <acme9283@...> wrote:
Hello group, I was wondering how Do you contact 4U1UN ? Because I don't
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They are also on on special events from time to time. Not sure where I saw the announcements, but they get on fairly often. I think I have them on multiple bands and multiple modes including FT8 I think. You will get them. It is far far from a rare entity.
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From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of Earl Needham Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 11:48 AM To: main@wsjtx.groups.io Subject: Re: [WSJTX] How Do you connect 4U1UN ? #FreqCal I worked them in 2006, and as I recall, it was fairly random. I just happened to be on the frequency they started calling CQ on. I got in right away, but it was pretty crazy when I signed with them. BTW, this was on 17-meter CW. Vy 7 3, Earl KD5XB On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 10:27 AM André C <acme9283@...> wrote: Hello group, I was wondering how Do you contact 4U1UN ? Because I -- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W Hierro candente, batir de repente HP Laptop
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Dave Garber <ve3wej@...>
Thwy usually run fox and hound but it could be propagation and has you not
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see them. Could be your noise floor. Keep watching sent by ve3wej on lg phone
On Fri., Sep. 2, 2022, 1:15 p.m. Gilbert Baron, <w0mn00@...> wrote:
They are also on on special events from time to time. Not sure where I saw
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careyfisher@...
If you can't hear them, don't even try to work them.
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73, Carey, WB4HXE
On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 1:47 PM Dave Garber <ve3wej@...> wrote:
Thwy usually run fox and hound but it could be propagation and has you not-- Carey Fisher careyfisher@... --
73, Carey, WB4HXE
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Michael Black
I've worked that station 5 times on 10,17,20,30, and 40M. All LOTW confirmed. Most recent was May 6th.
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Mike W9MDB
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:27:37 AM CDT, André C <acme9283@...> wrote:
Hello group, I was wondering how Do you contact 4U1UN ? Because I don't see Them calling CQ and Then, they appear on the band activity Window and everybody are calling Them ... Wtf ... How Do they operate ? Are they calling on a différent fréquency so nobody are seeing Them ? Allô, Do they acknowlage on LoTW or eQSL after they make contact ? I've been Trying my ass for Many Time to try to contact Them without any success. What is your trick ? How Do you Do it ? Thanks for keeping me inform si I could finally ne able to contact Them. 73 André VE2WNF
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Jorge Diez - CX6VM
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El vie, 2 sept 2022 a las 13:27, André C (<acme9283@...>) escribió:
Hello group, I was wondering how Do you contact 4U1UN ? Because I don't --
73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W
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DL5NO
4U1UN is currently on 17m, FT8 F/H-mode with 1..3 streams on 18095.3+. I called him 1 kHz up, with Hound-mode activated, QSO went ok, no trick.
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73 de Georg, DL5NO
Hello group, I was wondering how Do you contact 4U1UN ? Because I don't see Them calling CQ and Then, they appear on the band activity Window and everybody are calling Them ... Wtf ... How Do they operate ? Are they calling on a différent fréquency so nobody are seeing Them ? Allô, Do they acknowlage on LoTW or eQSL after they make contact ? I've been Trying my ass for Many Time to try to contact Them without any success. What is your trick ? How Do you Do it ? Thanks for keeping me inform si I could finally ne able to contact Them. 73 André VE2WNF
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Jim Brown
On 9/2/2022 12:54 PM, careyfisher@... wrote:
If you can't hear them, don't even try to work them.This is a fundamental principle -- NEVER call a station you can't hear -- you're causing QRM to those who CAN hear the station. The only exception is for expeditions who purposely don't call CQ to save battery power or fuel for their generators, and instead invite callers via internet chat. 73, Jim K9YC
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André C
When you said fox and hound, you mean they call on one frequency and you reply on the main FT8 frequency ? If so, what frequency are they using ibn FT8 ? Thanks
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Sam Birnbaum
Fox& Hound operation requires that you call above the 1000Hz Offset.They call below that. ThIf you are picked, the program will automatically shift you to their offset.After you are done, you should be back above 1000Hz offset.
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73, Sam W2JDB
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From: André C <acme9283@...> To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2022 5:26 pm Subject: Re: [WSJTX] How Do you connect 4U1UN ? #FreqCal When you said fox and hound, you mean they call on one frequency and you reply on the main FT8 frequency ? If so, what frequency are they using ibn FT8 ? Thanks
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André C
Hello Mike, good for you that you have contacted them 5 times on different bands. Please explain to me in more detail how do you do it, maybe in a Personal message .... Thanks
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De : main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> De la part de Michael Black via groups.io Envoyé : 2 septembre 2022 12:38 À : main@WSJTX.groups.io Objet : Re: [WSJTX] How Do you connect 4U1UN ? #FreqCal I've worked that station 5 times on 10,17,20,30, and 40M. All LOTW confirmed. Most recent was May 6th. Mike W9MDB On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:27:37 AM CDT, André C <acme9283@...> wrote: Hello group, I was wondering how Do you contact 4U1UN ? Because I don't see Them calling CQ and Then, they appear on the band activity Window and everybody are calling Them ... Wtf ... How Do they operate ? Are they calling on a différent fréquency so nobody are seeing Them ? Allô, Do they acknowlage on LoTW or eQSL after they make contact ? I've been Trying my ass for Many Time to try to contact Them without any success. What is your trick ? How Do you Do it ? Thanks for keeping me inform si I could finally ne able to contact Them. 73 André VE2WNF
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d_ziolkowski
Andre-
I am about 200 miles South of you in Amsterdam NY fn22. I have tried many times to work 4U1UN, which I believe is at the UN building in New York City. They never hear me. I assume I'm too close, in the Skip zone, you may also be too close in. Dan KC2STAS On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 5:49 PM Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: I've worked that station 5 times on 10,17,20,30, and 40M. All LOTW-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
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Robert Lorenzini
It also requires you to be in fox/hound mode. You will find it under advanced in settings.
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Bob - wd6dod
On 9/2/2022 2:55 PM, Sam Birnbaum via groups.io wrote:
Fox& Hound operation requires that you call above the 1000Hz Offset.They call below that. ThIf you are picked, the program will automatically shift you to their offset.After you are done, you should be back above 1000Hz offset.
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Joe Subich, W4TV
Please explain to me in more detail how do you do itPlease read and study the information on Fox/Hound mode in the WSJTX online user guide and the "FT8 DXpedition Mode User Guide" both of which can be accesses from the WSJTX Help menu. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2022-09-02 6:13 PM, André C wrote: Hello Mike, good for you that you have contacted them 5 times on different bands. Please explain to me in more detail how do you do it, maybe in a Personal message .... Thanks
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DL5NO
K1JT has described how the F/H-mode works in a document that is also available on the WSJT-X download-page at Princeton:
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https://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf You should read the documentation, then it will be clear how this special mode is used in FT8. 73 de Georg, DL5NO
When you said fox and hound, you mean they call on one frequency and you reply on the main FT8 frequency ? If so, what frequency are they using ibn FT8 ? Thanks
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André C
Hello Dan, problem is that I have worked all the stations on the east coast and mostly thru middle of the states, and since Un is located in new York, I do have worked many stations in NY too, so I'm not shure about skip....
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De : main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> De la part de d_ziolkowski Envoyé : 2 septembre 2022 18:30 À : main@wsjtx.groups.io Objet : Re: [WSJTX] How Do you connect 4U1UN ? #FreqCal Andre- I am about 200 miles South of you in Amsterdam NY fn22. I have tried many times to work 4U1UN, which I believe is at the UN building in New York City. They never hear me. I assume I'm too close, in the Skip zone, you may also be too close in. Dan KC2STAS On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 5:49 PM Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: I've worked that station 5 times on 10,17,20,30, and 40M. All LOTW-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
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Michael Black
Are you hearing them?
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hamspots.net shows you are only being received in CO, TX, ID, AL, AZ, CA, FL, OK, WA, MS. Nobody in the NE USA. Mike W9MDB
On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 05:14:08 PM CDT, André C <acme9283@...> wrote:
Hello Mike, good for you that you have contacted them 5 times on different bands. Please explain to me in more detail how do you do it, maybe in a Personal message .... Thanks -----Message d'origine----- De : main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> De la part de Michael Black via groups.io Envoyé : 2 septembre 2022 12:38 À : main@WSJTX.groups.io Objet : Re: [WSJTX] How Do you connect 4U1UN ? #FreqCal I've worked that station 5 times on 10,17,20,30, and 40M. All LOTW confirmed. Most recent was May 6th. Mike W9MDB On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:27:37 AM CDT, André C <acme9283@...> wrote: Hello group, I was wondering how Do you contact 4U1UN ? Because I don't see Them calling CQ and Then, they appear on the band activity Window and everybody are calling Them ... Wtf ... How Do they operate ? Are they calling on a différent fréquency so nobody are seeing Them ? Allô, Do they acknowlage on LoTW or eQSL after they make contact ? I've been Trying my ass for Many Time to try to contact Them without any success. What is your trick ? How Do you Do it ? Thanks for keeping me inform si I could finally ne able to contact Them. 73 André VE2WNF
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Ken
What antenna are you using?
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A Tri Bander or 70’ is good for DX but you may need to use a low dipole for close in propagation. Look at PSK Reporter to see where your TX signal is being heard. Many times, close in stations are harder to work than DX stations due to propagation. It also depends on where the station you want to work has their antenna pointed. Some times you hear them but they do not hear you. Sometimes it is just the opposite. And as someone else posted, if you can’t hear them, do not call them. W8KEN - Ken
On Sep 2, 2022, at 19:33, Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98@...> wrote:
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I believe 4U1UN uses a vertical on the roof. The New York City environment is also going to be electrically noisy. This will limit their ability to hear stations close to them given a vertical is good for DX but not for local (ground wave) stuff.
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From the Boston area I have them (all low power) on: 75 SSB 25 Oct 2009 Low dipole 40 CW 29 May 2022 Low dipole 20 FT8 12 April 2020 Moxon @ 36' 12 FT8 5 June 2021 15m rotatable dipole @ 33' Larry / W1DYJ
On 9/2/2022 19:52, Ken via groups.io wrote:
What antenna are you using?
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