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Locked How To Handle Non-Contest Callers #ContestMode
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David AD4TJ
Participated in the 6 pm EDT session, and ran into the same situation as in previous FTx contests:
I'm calling CQ TEST AD4TJ FM08. I am called by a station, say W2ABC FN05. I reply with W2ABC AD4TJ R FM08. He replies with: AD4TJ W2ABC +12 (obviously not in Contest Mode). I am in Contest Mode, which doesn't recognize +12 as the report it is expecting, so it again sends W2ABC AD4TJ R FM08. And the cycle repeats itself until one of us quits. So what does someone who is in the contest, make this a completion for a good QSO? I'm stumped (again). It seems that either everyone else has it figured out (because I never see it mentioned just before the contest) or I/we/they have forgotten about it until it happens the day before the contest starts. Thanks in advance. Inquiring minds want to know! David AD4TJ |
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Bob K4RCG
I had the same situation with a DX station who seemed to really want a
QSO. So in curtesy to that station, I went to normal mode, gave a report and 73 then re-set NA VHF for the contest exchange. 73 Bob K4RCG On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 01:35 David AD4TJ via groups.io <ad4tj= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Participated in the 6 pm EDT session, and ran into the same situation as |
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Dennis W1UE
David
There are a couple of solutions that I see, but only one that will work for this weekend. When this happens- and it will happen- go into the Settings- Advanced window, uncheck the Special Activities box, and click on "OK". That will change your replies mid-QSO. I had to use it several times during the test session. When I was done with the QSO, I had to go into and check it again to return to NA VHF contest mode. Another solution I found that would take changes to the WSJT-x software: Right now, when in Contest Mode, message F2 is greyed out and not available. If that message were made available for the operator to switch to, when you got a reply that included the signal report you could just change to the alternate F2 by hitting the F2 key. That would send the XX1X W1UE R+00 and put everyone back in sync. It may require more message intervention by the operator, but it would then be doable. That won't help us this weekend, though. Good luck in the contest. Dennis W1UE On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 1:35 AM David AD4TJ via groups.io <ad4tj= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Participated in the 6 pm EDT session, and ran into the same situation as |
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Bruce G
I suppose it depends on the requirements of the contest.
For the new ARRL International DX contest starting today(only digital contest I'm familiar with right now), I would say yes it's a good QSO. All you need for that contest is his maidenhead, which you received. In the case of this specific contest, I'm not even sure the need for the special exchange. If all you need is the maidenhead, that is provided in the normal exchange which I would run so you could use the exchange for other things as well (POTA for example). Not sure it helps, but my 2 cents anyways. 73, Bruce KE8QFP |
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Butch Washer
My personal take on this.
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I am going to have my CONTEST MODE free text ready to use. The first contact I will try to manually select the next macro to log the contact. If that doesn’t work, I’ll just move on quickly and ignore them. I’ll always lead with the free text 2X’s first. I feel that some who do this are trying to cause disruptions, so I won’t let that happen. They know that they are off the regular FT# freqs and know better. I will always try CONTEST MODE on everyone that calls the wrong way first. But quickly move on. I may even note the call sign to possibly call them out on the air if they continue to do it, causing disruptions in the contest. But will always try CONTEST MODE on every one that does it to give the benefit of doubt. Butch On Jun 4, 2022, at 1:35 AM, David AD4TJ via groups.io <ad4tj@...> wrote:
Participated in the 6 pm EDT session, and ran into the same situation as in previous FTx contests: I'm calling CQ TEST AD4TJ FM08. I am called by a station, say W2ABC FN05. I reply with W2ABC AD4TJ R FM08. He replies with: AD4TJ W2ABC +12 (obviously not in Contest Mode). I am in Contest Mode, which doesn't recognize +12 as the report it is expecting, so it again sends W2ABC AD4TJ R FM08. And the cycle repeats itself until one of us quits. So what does someone who is in the contest, make this a completion for a good QSO? I'm stumped (again). It seems that either everyone else has it figured out (because I never see it mentioned just before the contest) or I/we/they have forgotten about it until it happens the day before the contest starts. Thanks in advance. Inquiring minds want to know! David AD4TJ |
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JP Tucson, AZ
Hi David,
Were you on the contest frequency too? Or on the std. freq.? If you stay on the contest freq's, most folks not in the contest probably won't even be there. |
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In just the short time I have been doing this new contest I find way too many just typed "TEST" in their CQ (TX6) or are using the wrong contest software. It's a new contest format and will take a cycle or two for everybody to get on board.
Many are not using the NA VHF mode (as outlined to do so by Joe Taylor), even though it sounds wrong. It's a quick fix that will solve the problem until another name can be created in WSJTx and hopefully, ARRL will rename it more uniquely as well as the current names are a bit too similar. I know they were trying to split the previous contest to make the playing field more equal, but the basic name should not have been inherited either. -- 73's George - WB5JJJ Hamshack Holine #4969 |
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I never had the problem when using FT8 because it is on a completely different contest frequency. But the FT4 contest mode is on the standard FT4 frequency where a lot of people have normal QSOs. I wish they had picked a different FT4 frequency for the contest. I know that FT4 frequency like 14.080 is for contesting but a lot of people use it for normal QSOs... I just quickly switch back to non contest mode to complete the QSO then log it...
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Bill WB6JJJ -----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of Butch Washer Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 5:12 AM To: main@wsjtx.groups.io Subject: Re: [WSJTX] How To Handle Non-Contest Callers #contestmode My personal take on this. I am going to have my CONTEST MODE free text ready to use. The first contact I will try to manually select the next macro to log the contact. If that doesn’t work, I’ll just move on quickly and ignore them. I’ll always lead with the free text 2X’s first. I feel that some who do this are trying to cause disruptions, so I won’t let that happen. They know that they are off the regular FT# freqs and know better. I will always try CONTEST MODE on everyone that calls the wrong way first. But quickly move on. I may even note the call sign to possibly call them out on the air if they continue to do it, causing disruptions in the contest. But will always try CONTEST MODE on every one that does it to give the benefit of doubt. Butch On Jun 4, 2022, at 1:35 AM, David AD4TJ via groups.io <ad4tj@...> wrote: Participated in the 6 pm EDT session, and ran into the same situation as in previous FTx contests: I'm calling CQ TEST AD4TJ FM08. I am called by a station, say W2ABC FN05. I reply with W2ABC AD4TJ R FM08. He replies with: AD4TJ W2ABC +12 (obviously not in Contest Mode). I am in Contest Mode, which doesn't recognize +12 as the report it is expecting, so it again sends W2ABC AD4TJ R FM08. And the cycle repeats itself until one of us quits. So what does someone who is in the contest, make this a completion for a good QSO? I'm stumped (again). It seems that either everyone else has it figured out (because I never see it mentioned just before the contest) or I/we/they have forgotten about it until it happens the day before the contest starts. Thanks in advance. Inquiring minds want to know! David AD4TJ |
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Not so true. If I'lm in Qso whit, say, i1xxx and at the end I receive a
call I2OIM I2YYY JN45 I can't be sure that I2YYY has stored my maidenhead. I would have a CQ TX in the middle, to be sure. Pietro I2OIM Il sab 4 giu 2022, 21:19 bruiser419 via groups.io <bruiser419= yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto: I suppose it depends on the requirements of the contest. |
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Steven
Around 2200z Satuday, I called normal CQ 20m FT4 and worked several contesters while they were in contest mode with no problems. I gladly made contacts even though there is no report received in my log. Months ago, I had problems doing this same thing.
By contesters answering my normal CQ, does that still give them points? Hope so! |
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I was trying to work 3D2RRR last week before the contest and a Puerto Rico station starting calling me over & over & over for at least 25 times, maybe more. I checked my log and found I had worked Rotuma Island on 80 meter CW back in 2011 when their callsign was simply 3D2R, but no luck on 20 meters FT8 or FT4 F & H mode when they were operating on it. Good luck in the contest David!
Very 73, Cliff, KU4GW |
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