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Locked FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode
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Neal Aguillard
I have the following settings
Serial Port: Com 4 (which is the indicated enhanced port after loading the Yaesu drivers) 8 data bits 1 stop bit Hardware handshake PTT Method CAT Mode: Data/Pkt Split operation: fake it Input: USB Audio CODEC Output: USB Audio CODEC My computer time is within 0.38 seconds based on Time.is My rig transmits- I can see reception on PSKReporter Very rarely I will get a few copies- otherwise no reception- waterfall is fairly flat. I am using a new Dell desktop in Windows 10. I have an almost identical other Dell desktop with Windows 10 with these same settings and it works fine. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Neal Aguillard KN4USN |
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Windows Settings>Privacy>Microphone Make sure allow apps to access your microphone and if WSJTX is in the list that it is also allowed to access the mic.
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: Neal Aguillard via groups.io<mailto:AGUILLARDN@...> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 2:32 AM To: main@WSJTX.groups.io<mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io> Subject: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode I have the following settings Serial Port: Com 4 (which is the indicated enhanced port after loading the Yaesu drivers) 8 data bits 1 stop bit Hardware handshake PTT Method CAT Mode: Data/Pkt Split operation: fake it Input: USB Audio CODEC Output: USB Audio CODEC My computer time is within 0.38 seconds based on Time.is My rig transmits- I can see reception on PSKReporter Very rarely I will get a few copies- otherwise no reception- waterfall is fairly flat. I am using a new Dell desktop in Windows 10. I have an almost identical other Dell desktop with Windows 10 with these same settings and it works fine. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Neal Aguillard KN4USN |
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M0PWX
Check the ALC and power out bars when you TX, is your radio getting enough audio so you are getting the correct power out?
I normally have my DT gain set so the ALC bar just goes into the red or my rig just produces the power I selected (you will find at the two ends of the WSJT-x waterfall you need to increase the DT gain a fraction or your output power drops off) I don’t use fake it or split on my 991a and it works great without Peter M0PWX M0PWX Grabber Page (qsl.net)<https://www.qsl.net/m0pwx/grabbers.htm> From: Shawn Johnson<mailto:KU0D@...> I have the following settings Serial Port: Com 4 (which is the indicated enhanced port after loading the Yaesu drivers) 8 data bits 1 stop bit Hardware handshake PTT Method CAT Mode: Data/Pkt Split operation: fake it Input: USB Audio CODEC Output: USB Audio CODEC My computer time is within 0.38 seconds based on Time.is My rig transmits- I can see reception on PSKReporter Very rarely I will get a few copies- otherwise no reception- waterfall is fairly flat. |
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Alan G4ZFQ
Very rarely I will get a few copies- otherwise no reception- waterfall is fairly flat.Does the bar at bottom left show green? 73 Alan G4ZFQ |
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Mike Black
Peter -- can you test how much power you get out (percentage) when you turn down the DT gain so that no ALC is produced?I've found most rigs can produce around 90% (so 90W out of 100W) with no ALC which is only a 0.5dB loss in transmit power.The problem is that the ALC meters vary by rig so that for some no indication is 0dB and for others the meter has some indication at 0dB. Elecraft is 4 bars with the 5th bar tickling for example. Would be nice if we could start producing some notes for all the rigs on this. There is the 0dB indication and the % watts at that point, plus the ALC indication when full power is reached, and whether or not full power produces harmonics.
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And do you have a 2nd rig you can look for harmonics on your transmit signal? Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 06:24:50 AM CDT, M0PWX <m0pwx@...> wrote:
Check the ALC and power out bars when you TX, is your radio getting enough audio so you are getting the correct power out? I normally have my DT gain set so the ALC bar just goes into the red or my rig just produces the power I selected (you will find at the two ends of the WSJT-x waterfall you need to increase the DT gain a fraction or your output power drops off) I don’t use fake it or split on my 991a and it works great without Peter M0PWX M0PWX Grabber Page (qsl.net)<https://www.qsl.net/m0pwx/grabbers.htm> From: Shawn Johnson<mailto:KU0D@...> I have the following settings Serial Port: Com 4 (which is the indicated enhanced port after loading the Yaesu drivers) 8 data bits 1 stop bit Hardware handshake PTT Method CAT Mode: Data/Pkt Split operation: fake it Input: USB Audio CODEC Output: USB Audio CODEC My computer time is within 0.38 seconds based on Time.is My rig transmits- I can see reception on PSKReporter Very rarely I will get a few copies- otherwise no reception- waterfall is fairly flat. |
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M0PWX
My 991a produces max output as the bar goes into red.
i.e. if I set 30w on front output is 30w at the end of the white section of the ALC bar graph with the ALC at virtually 0 i get 1-2w out here when I am set at 20w required power seems to be achieved when the ALC bar is at about S7-S9 on the top scale of the bar graph Peter M0PWX M0PWX Grabber Page (qsl.net)<https://www.qsl.net/m0pwx/grabbers.htm> From: Michael Black via groups.io<mailto:mdblack98@...> Sent: 12 April 2022 12:00 To: main@WSJTX.groups.io<mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io> Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode Peter -- can you test how much power you get out (percentage) when you turn down the DT gain so that no ALC is produced?I've found most rigs can produce around 90% (so 90W out of 100W) with no ALC which is only a 0.5dB loss in transmit power.The problem is that the ALC meters vary by rig so that for some no indication is 0dB and for others the meter has some indication at 0dB. Elecraft is 4 bars with the 5th bar tickling for example. Would be nice if we could start producing some notes for all the rigs on this. There is the 0dB indication and the % watts at that point, plus the ALC indication when full power is reached, and whether or not full power produces harmonics. And do you have a 2nd rig you can look for harmonics on your transmit signal? Mike W9MDB |
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Sort of Reminds me of Grade School with where you whisper in ones ear a message then each student relays the message to the next and by the time it reaches the end it is an entirely different message,.
I thought We were trying to Resolve Neal Aguillard KN4USN with why he is having issues Decoding Input Maybe moving to another Thread the issue with output and ALC so not to confuse the Methods for trying to resolve Neal Aguillard KN4USN Input and decoding Using Windows 10 Regards KU0D Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: M0PWX<mailto:M0PWX@...> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 8:16 AM To: main@WSJTX.groups.io<mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io> Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode My 991a produces max output as the bar goes into red. i.e. if I set 30w on front output is 30w at the end of the white section of the ALC bar graph with the ALC at virtually 0 i get 1-2w out here when I am set at 20w required power seems to be achieved when the ALC bar is at about S7-S9 on the top scale of the bar graph Peter M0PWX M0PWX Grabber Page (qsl.net)<https://www.qsl.net/m0pwx/grabbers.htm> From: Michael Black via groups.io<mailto:mdblack98@...> Sent: 12 April 2022 12:00 To: main@WSJTX.groups.io<mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io> Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode Peter -- can you test how much power you get out (percentage) when you turn down the DT gain so that no ALC is produced?I've found most rigs can produce around 90% (so 90W out of 100W) with no ALC which is only a 0.5dB loss in transmit power.The problem is that the ALC meters vary by rig so that for some no indication is 0dB and for others the meter has some indication at 0dB. Elecraft is 4 bars with the 5th bar tickling for example. Would be nice if we could start producing some notes for all the rigs on this. There is the 0dB indication and the % watts at that point, plus the ALC indication when full power is reached, and whether or not full power produces harmonics. And do you have a 2nd rig you can look for harmonics on your transmit signal? Mike W9MDB |
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Mike Black
Anybody else that would like to do this test please post results. I will collect and publish.Especially those that can record their own signal.
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Peter -- What does ALC show when power just starts to drop below 30? There would be 3 measurements we would be interested in and you've got the first two. #1 The % watts when the ALC meter is not deflecting at tall which you show now as around 5%.#2 The ALC reading as power just reaches full power which you show as S7-S9 on the meter.#3 The ALC reading as power just drops below full power. This is going to be the "safest" setting to avoid any and all harmonics. Do you have a 2nd receiver you can hear or collect your signal for the #2 and #3 measurements? Mike W9DMB On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 07:16:56 AM CDT, M0PWX <m0pwx@...> wrote:
My 991a produces max output as the bar goes into red. i.e. if I set 30w on front output is 30w at the end of the white section of the ALC bar graph with the ALC at virtually 0 i get 1-2w out here when I am set at 20w required power seems to be achieved when the ALC bar is at about S7-S9 on the top scale of the bar graph Peter M0PWX M0PWX Grabber Page (qsl.net)<https://www.qsl.net/m0pwx/grabbers.htm> From: Michael Black via groups.io<mailto:mdblack98@...> Sent: 12 April 2022 12:00 To: main@WSJTX.groups.io<mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io> Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode Peter -- can you test how much power you get out (percentage) when you turn down the DT gain so that no ALC is produced?I've found most rigs can produce around 90% (so 90W out of 100W) with no ALC which is only a 0.5dB loss in transmit power.The problem is that the ALC meters vary by rig so that for some no indication is 0dB and for others the meter has some indication at 0dB. Elecraft is 4 bars with the 5th bar tickling for example. Would be nice if we could start producing some notes for all the rigs on this. There is the 0dB indication and the % watts at that point, plus the ALC indication when full power is reached, and whether or not full power produces harmonics. And do you have a 2nd rig you can look for harmonics on your transmit signal? Mike W9MDB |
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Doesn’t the 991 Have a Blue Bar up to S9 on the meter and after that is where it turns red.. I believe that to be the distortion point.. But with that Said I have full power At S1-S3 and it drops off at 0 Depending on Band EDGE and Frequency it can vary a slight bit. Also As the rig Heats and cools.. But you should be able to achieve full power out if set up correctly just above Zero on the ALC but Believe it isn’t in the distort area till it reaches 9 and in the red.. I also use an External meter for watch power output with the ALC set on the rigs meter.. I keep it steady between 0 and S5 where the output is steady and Minimal ALC..
Regards KU0D Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: Michael Black via groups.io<mailto:mdblack98@...> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 8:51 AM To: main@WSJTX.groups.io<mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io> Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode Anybody else that would like to do this test please post results. I will collect and publish.Especially those that can record their own signal. Peter -- What does ALC show when power just starts to drop below 30? There would be 3 measurements we would be interested in and you've got the first two. #1 The % watts when the ALC meter is not deflecting at tall which you show now as around 5%.#2 The ALC reading as power just reaches full power which you show as S7-S9 on the meter.#3 The ALC reading as power just drops below full power. This is going to be the "safest" setting to avoid any and all harmonics. Do you have a 2nd receiver you can hear or collect your signal for the #2 and #3 measurements? Mike W9DMB On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 07:16:56 AM CDT, M0PWX <m0pwx@...> wrote: My 991a produces max output as the bar goes into red. i.e. if I set 30w on front output is 30w at the end of the white section of the ALC bar graph with the ALC at virtually 0 i get 1-2w out here when I am set at 20w required power seems to be achieved when the ALC bar is at about S7-S9 on the top scale of the bar graph Peter M0PWX M0PWX Grabber Page (qsl.net)<https://www.qsl.net/m0pwx/grabbers.htm> From: Michael Black via groups.io<mailto:mdblack98@...> Sent: 12 April 2022 12:00 To: main@WSJTX.groups.io<mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io> Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode Peter -- can you test how much power you get out (percentage) when you turn down the DT gain so that no ALC is produced?I've found most rigs can produce around 90% (so 90W out of 100W) with no ALC which is only a 0.5dB loss in transmit power.The problem is that the ALC meters vary by rig so that for some no indication is 0dB and for others the meter has some indication at 0dB. Elecraft is 4 bars with the 5th bar tickling for example. Would be nice if we could start producing some notes for all the rigs on this. There is the 0dB indication and the % watts at that point, plus the ALC indication when full power is reached, and whether or not full power produces harmonics. And do you have a 2nd rig you can look for harmonics on your transmit signal? Mike W9MDB |
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Dennis Wage <dwage@...>
Michael,
I’d love to participate in this but my 991 is packed up for moving and won’t be unpacked for a few weeks. The problems I’ve run into with the audio tone levels and how they translate to power transmit levels all have to do with there being SO many places to change the levels. 1. The power slider in WSJT-X 2. The volume setting of the 991 USB sound device in windows. 3. DT gain setting on the 991. 4. RF power setting. It can be safely said that WSJT on windows will produce a pure tone with #1 at full scale 0db, and with #2 set at 100%. Now it’s simply a balancing act between #1 and #3. You could run #1 at -40 and #3 at 50 or #1 at 0 and #3 at 4 or 5. I simply set my radio to a transmit level, say 30w, click Tune in WSJT-X and with #3 set at ~10 adjust #1 until the watt meter in the radio just barely touches 30w. I never rely on the ALC meter. Some bands the ALC meter doesn’t show anything. On other bands there may be a bar or 2. The real question in this thread was more about receiving and you kind of follow the same thought process. The most important though is that the level meter shows green. On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 07:51 Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Anybody else that would like to do this test please post results. I willDennis M. Wage (W9BOQ) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 https://www.grammy.com/grammys/artists/dennis-wage/252054 http://overdubs.net |
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Mike Black
On receive you want 30dB on the WSJT-X meter or a bit more on a quiet spot. That is independent of any rig model.
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Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, April 12, 2022, 08:33:07 AM CDT, Dennis Wage <dwage@...> wrote:
Michael, I’d love to participate in this but my 991 is packed up for moving and won’t be unpacked for a few weeks. The problems I’ve run into with the audio tone levels and how they translate to power transmit levels all have to do with there being SO many places to change the levels. 1. The power slider in WSJT-X 2. The volume setting of the 991 USB sound device in windows. 3. DT gain setting on the 991. 4. RF power setting. It can be safely said that WSJT on windows will produce a pure tone with #1 at full scale 0db, and with #2 set at 100%. Now it’s simply a balancing act between #1 and #3. You could run #1 at -40 and #3 at 50 or #1 at 0 and #3 at 4 or 5. I simply set my radio to a transmit level, say 30w, click Tune in WSJT-X and with #3 set at ~10 adjust #1 until the watt meter in the radio just barely touches 30w. I never rely on the ALC meter. Some bands the ALC meter doesn’t show anything. On other bands there may be a bar or 2. The real question in this thread was more about receiving and you kind of follow the same thought process. The most important though is that the level meter shows green. On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 07:51 Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Anybody else that would like to do this test please post results. I willDennis M. Wage (W9BOQ) 245 Corum Hill Road Castalian Springs, TN 37031 (615) 310-4242 https://www.grammy.com/grammys/artists/dennis-wage/252054 http://overdubs.net |
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Steve Kavanagh
Neal
A few things to try/consider (most of these you probably have right...but just in case....): (1) Can you see signals on the FT-991A scope set to a narrow span? (2) Can you see signals on the Wide Graph? (3) Try Mode=USB and see if that makes a difference. (4) What band are you on? Is it open at the time you are testing? (5) does the dB meter in the lower left corner show signal levels that vary? (6) Do you have the correct mode selected for the frequency you are on? (7) What is the FT-991A's filter bandwidth on Data/Pkt? (8) Is the Wide Graph window wide enough to show at least 500-2500 Hz (more is better)? (9) Is the "CQ only" box unchecked? 73, Steve VE3SMA |
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Is this green?
[image: 2022-04-12.png] Pietro I2OIM Il giorno mar 12 apr 2022 alle ore 08:32 Neal Aguillard via groups.io <AGUILLARDN@...> ha scritto: I have the following settings 
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Dennis Wage <dwage@...>
Also, for running any digital modes that use Windows sound devices, whether
it's a radio's built in USB sound device, or any other audio device. Windows Sound Control Panel is your friend. On newer Windows OS's it's getting harder and harder to find and open. Enter mmsys.cpl at Run, Search or from a cmd window and it will open. 1. Under the Playback tab you'll find the device needed to send audio TO your radio. 2. Under the Recording tab is where audio output from the radio goes to your software. If you have it set up correctly you should see activity in the red circled area. 3. Under the Sounds tab, the safest way to run digital modes is with No Sounds. Another thing that is pretty handy is that you can rename these devices. I always get confused as to which one sends to the radio and which one receives audio. [image: image.png] On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 8:37 AM Michael Black via groups.io <mdblack98= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: On receive you want 30dB on the WSJT-X meter or a bit more on a quiet 
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Dennis Wage <dwage@...>
Image didn't make it.. send to me privately.. email is good on qrz
W9BOQ On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 1:18 PM Pietro Molina <pietro@...> wrote: Is this green? |
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Dennis Wage <dwage@...>
Another thing I forgot to mention. The 991a is notorious for starting in
digital USB mode with the receive bandwidth super narrow. Make sure it's as wide open as possible. On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 10:52 AM Steve Kavanagh via groups.io <sjkavanagh1= yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote: Neal |
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Neal Aguillard
Thanks Shawn:
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I did access the Microphone page. WSJT-X is listed and is "currently in use." Neal Aguillard -----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Johnson <KU0D@...> To: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Apr 12, 2022 5:20 am Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode Windows Settings>Privacy>Microphone Make sure allow apps to access your microphone and if WSJTX is in the list that it is also allowed to access the mic. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: Neal Aguillard via groups.io<mailto:AGUILLARDN@...> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 2:32 AM To: main@WSJTX.groups.io<mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io> Subject: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10 #decode I have the following settings Serial Port: Com 4 (which is the indicated enhanced port after loading the Yaesu drivers) 8 data bits 1 stop bit Hardware handshake PTT Method CAT Mode: Data/Pkt Split operation: fake it Input: USB Audio CODEC Output: USB Audio CODEC My computer time is within 0.38 seconds based on Time.is My rig transmits- I can see reception on PSKReporter Very rarely I will get a few copies- otherwise no reception- waterfall is fairly flat. I am using a new Dell desktop in Windows 10. I have an almost identical other Dell desktop with Windows 10 with these same settings and it works fine. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Neal Aguillard KN4USN |
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Neal Aguillard
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Thanks for the reply. No signals on Wide GraphTried USB- made no difference.I've tried 20 and 40m. Bands are open- I have an identical set up on a Windows 10 machine with same version of WSJT-X that is working perfectly.The dB meter in the lower left corner does not vary.I'm in Upper Side Band mode on the FT-991A -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Kavanagh via groups.io <sjkavanagh1@...> To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Sent: Tue, Apr 12, 2022 10:52 am Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT-991A no decode Windows 10Wide Window is 2600.Not sure where the "CQ only" box is Neal A few things to try/consider (most of these you probably have right...but just in case....): (1) Can you see signals on the FT-991A scope set to a narrow span? (2) Can you see signals on the Wide Graph? (3) Try Mode=USB and see if that makes a difference. (4) What band are you on? Is it open at the time you are testing? (5) does the dB meter in the lower left corner show signal levels that vary? (6) Do you have the correct mode selected for the frequency you are on? (7) What is the FT-991A's filter bandwidth on Data/Pkt? (8) Is the Wide Graph window wide enough to show at least 500-2500 Hz (more is better)? (9) Is the "CQ only" box unchecked? 73, Steve VE3SMA |
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Dennis Wage <dwage@...>
Steve,
email me at dwage at dwage dot com. I can help you. On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 11:51 PM Neal Aguillard via groups.io <AGUILLARDN= cs.com@groups.io> wrote: Steve: |
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Neal Aguillard
I think I've done everything suggested. I definitely am transmitting in FT8 and WSPR based on PSKReporter and WSPR net. No indication of any decoding based on the Wide Graph window. I will get a momentary indication on the Wide Graph window that is receiving when I change the mode from Data/Pkt to USB or none in the Mode section.
It's the same situation with JS8Call. I have an identical configuration with another Dell in Windows 10 and have no problems using it. I'm wondering if the problem is Windows Audio Codec. Should I reload it? Neal Aguillard KN4USN |
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