Locked FT4 LOTW Upload question #logging


John Geiger AF5CC <af5cc2@...>
 

I am trying to upload to LOTW a couple of contest logs I have where the QSOs were made in FT4 mode. What mode specifier do I put in the Cabrillo file so the TQSL program will take it? Putting FT4 didn't work. The RTTY Roundup file I have used DG from my logging program and it wouldn't take that either, and that wouldn't let LOTW know which digital mode it was anyways.

73 John AF5CC


Joe Subich, W4TV
 

<Mode:4>MFSK<Submode:3>FT4

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2022-02-27 2:41 PM, John Geiger AF5CC wrote:
I am trying to upload to LOTW a couple of contest logs I have where the QSOs were made in FT4 mode. What mode specifier do I put in the Cabrillo file so the TQSL program will take it? Putting FT4 didn't work. The RTTY Roundup file I have used DG from my logging program and it wouldn't take that either, and that wouldn't let LOTW know which digital mode it was anyways.
73 John AF5CC


Reino Talarmo
 

John,
You should have also wsjtx_log.adi file covering those contests, I assume. You could upload those as LoTW accepts that file as it is. On the QSO matching point of view it does not matter as all digital QSO are matched as DATA in any case. It may be recorded into LoTW with the actual data mode.
73, Reino OH3mA

I am trying to upload to LOTW a couple of contest logs I have where the QSOs were made in FT4 mode. What mode specifier do I put in the Cabrillo file so the TQSL program will take it? Putting FT4 didn't work. The RTTY Roundup file I have used DG from my logging program and it wouldn't take that either, and that wouldn't let LOTW know which digital mode it was anyways.


Karza <kari.sillanmaki@...>
 

Hi John,

I am trying to upload to LOTW a couple of contest logs I have where the QSOs
were made in FT4 mode. What mode specifier do I put in the Cabrillo file so
the TQSL program will take it? Putting FT4 didn't work. The RTTY Roundup
file I have used DG from my logging program and it wouldn't take that either,
and that wouldn't let LOTW know which digital mode it was anyways.
Perhaps MFSK submode FT4 ?

https://www.arrl.org/news/view/lotw-now-accepting-ft4-contacts

73's de Kari, oh2gqc


Pietro Molina
 

MFSK, I think.

Pietro (via Tablet)

Il dom 27 feb 2022, 22:00 John Geiger AF5CC <af5cc2@...> ha scritto:

I am trying to upload to LOTW a couple of contest logs I have where the
QSOs were made in FT4 mode. What mode specifier do I put in the Cabrillo
file so the TQSL program will take it? Putting FT4 didn't work. The RTTY
Roundup file I have used DG from my logging program and it wouldn't take
that either, and that wouldn't let LOTW know which digital mode it was
anyways.

73 John AF5CC






Reino Talarmo
 

Hi John,
You have got informative answers what an adif file needs contain in order to upload FT4 QSOs to LoTW, but your orginal question was how you can do it using Cabrillo files.
The answer to that is unfortunately *not* possible. The only modes Cabrillo supports are:
mo is mode:
CW
PH
FM
RY
DG

The mode (mo) field is only two characters long in the Cabrillo specification.
Bottom ine is that the "DG" is correct, but not what you want. Only possibility is to use an adif file. The WSJTX_log.adi should be ok for that purpose as LoTW understands it.

73, Reino OH3mA


Martin G0HDB <marting0hdb@...>
 

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 09:02 AM, Reino Talarmo wrote:

Hi John,
You have got informative answers what an adif file needs contain in order to
upload FT4 QSOs to LoTW, but your orginal question was how you can do it using
Cabrillo files.
The answer to that is unfortunately *not* possible. The only modes Cabrillo
supports are:
mo is mode:
CW
PH
FM
RY
DG

The mode (mo) field is only two characters long in the Cabrillo specification.
Bottom ine is that the "DG" is correct, but not what you want. Only
possibility is to use an adif file. The WSJTX_log.adi should be ok for that
purpose as LoTW understands it.
As Reino has said, the only modes that Cabrillo recognises in the record for each QSO are those listed in his posting above. However, in the first part of the Cabrillo file you can include the following:

CATEGORY-MODE: FT4

This should ensure that a QSO tagged with the mode of 'DG' is explicitly identified as FT4.

However, as others have already said it might be easier to upload the contest log(s) to LoTW in ADIF because it/they should already contain the correct mode and sub-mode fields of <Mode:4>MFSK<Submode:3>FT4. I've never uploaded a Cabrillo file to LoTW because all the necessary information already exists in the associated ADIF file.

--
Martin G0HDB


Reino Talarmo
 

Hi Martin,

Sri for top posting, unless something has changed from Cabrillo v3, you method should not work as the specification says:
CATEGORY-MODE:
The category-mode must be one of the following.

CW
DIGI
FM
RTTY
SSB
MIXED

73, Reino OH3mA

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Martin G0HDB
Sent: 28. helmikuutata 2022 13:19
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT4 LOTW Upload question #logging

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 09:02 AM, Reino Talarmo wrote:

Hi John,
You have got informative answers what an adif file needs contain in
order to upload FT4 QSOs to LoTW, but your orginal question was how
you can do it using Cabrillo files.
The answer to that is unfortunately *not* possible. The only modes
Cabrillo supports are:
mo is mode:
CW
PH
FM
RY
DG

The mode (mo) field is only two characters long in the Cabrillo specification.
Bottom ine is that the "DG" is correct, but not what you want. Only
possibility is to use an adif file. The WSJTX_log.adi should be ok for
that purpose as LoTW understands it.
As Reino has said, the only modes that Cabrillo recognises in the record for each QSO are those listed in his posting above. However, in the first part of the Cabrillo file you can include the following:

CATEGORY-MODE: FT4

This should ensure that a QSO tagged with the mode of 'DG' is explicitly identified as FT4.

However, as others have already said it might be easier to upload the contest log(s) to LoTW in ADIF because it/they should already contain the correct mode and sub-mode fields of <Mode:4>MFSK<Submode:3>FT4. I've never uploaded a Cabrillo file to LoTW because all the necessary information already exists in the associated ADIF file.

--
Martin G0HDB


John Geiger AF5CC <af5cc2@...>
 

Thanks for all of the answers so far. It looks like I am going to have to
enter them manually into the TQSL program to get them in as FT4. I don't
have a program right now that generates an ADI file. My contest logging
program (Genlog by W3KM) only does Cabrillo files. I want them specified
as FT4 for the FT4 endorsements on WAS and maybe other awards.

73 John AF5CC

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 5:48 AM Martin G0HDB <marting0hdb@...> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 09:02 AM, Reino Talarmo wrote:

Hi John,
You have got informative answers what an adif file needs contain in
order to
upload FT4 QSOs to LoTW, but your orginal question was how you can do it
using
Cabrillo files.
The answer to that is unfortunately *not* possible. The only modes
Cabrillo
supports are:
mo is mode:
CW
PH
FM
RY
DG

The mode (mo) field is only two characters long in the Cabrillo
specification.
Bottom ine is that the "DG" is correct, but not what you want. Only
possibility is to use an adif file. The WSJTX_log.adi should be ok for
that
purpose as LoTW understands it.
As Reino has said, the only modes that Cabrillo recognises in the record
for each QSO are those listed in his posting above. However, in the first
part of the Cabrillo file you can include the following:

CATEGORY-MODE: FT4

This should ensure that a QSO tagged with the mode of 'DG' is explicitly
identified as FT4.

However, as others have already said it might be easier to upload the
contest log(s) to LoTW in ADIF because it/they should already contain the
correct mode and sub-mode fields of <Mode:4>MFSK<Submode:3>FT4. I've never
uploaded a Cabrillo file to LoTW because all the necessary information
already exists in the associated ADIF file.

--
Martin G0HDB






Panos
 

Hi, your wsjtx_log.adi file is ok for uploading to LOTW, you can edit it with utilities like adifmaster https://www.dxshell.com/adif-master.html always keep some backup files 73


Joe Subich, W4TV
 

On 2022-02-27 4:51 PM, Reino Talarmo wrote:

On the QSO matching point of view it does not matter as all digital QSO are matched as DATA in any case. It may be recorded into LoTW with the actual data mode.
That is only the case for DXCC.

DXCC makes no distinction among RTTY or any of the multitude of digital
(DATA) modes. However, WAS allows for endorsement by a large number of
separate digital modes and WAZ/WPX treat RTTY and DATA as separate
modes.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2022-02-27 4:51 PM, Reino Talarmo wrote:
John,
You should have also wsjtx_log.adi file covering those contests, I assume. You could upload those as LoTW accepts that file as it is. On the QSO matching point of view it does not matter as all digital QSO are matched as DATA in any case. It may be recorded into LoTW with the actual data mode.
73, Reino OH3mA

I am trying to upload to LOTW a couple of contest logs I have where the QSOs were made in FT4 mode. What mode specifier do I put in the Cabrillo file so the TQSL program will take it? Putting FT4 didn't work. The RTTY Roundup file I have used DG from my logging program and it wouldn't take that either, and that wouldn't let LOTW know which digital mode it was anyways.


Reino Talarmo
 

That is only the case for DXCC.
DXCC makes no distinction among RTTY or any of the multitude of digital
(DATA) modes. However, WAS allows for endorsement by a large number of separate digital modes and WAZ/WPX treat RTTY and DATA as separate modes.

Thanks Joe,

I did studied yesterday LoTW a bit more and noted how huge number of digital modes are recognized. So on the user's point of view it may be relevant to use an adif file for uploading unless phone, CW or RTTY are used in a contest.

Hi John,

I quickly looked the Genlog page and it states
"Writes ASCII, EDI, ADIF and Cabrillo log files".
It's another issue, whether it can present FT4 as MODE=MFSK and SUBMODE=FT4.
Good luck!

73, Reino OH3mA


Pietro Molina
 

John,
have you tried the 2-stage conversion from Cabrillo to excel and from
exel to adif?
i. some utility here:
https://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Software/Log_Converters/

Pietro I2OIM

Il giorno lun 28 feb 2022 alle ore 23:10 John Geiger AF5CC <af5cc2@...>
ha scritto:

Thanks for all of the answers so far. It looks like I am going to have to
enter them manually into the TQSL program to get them in as FT4. I don't
have a program right now that generates an ADI file. My contest logging
program (Genlog by W3KM) only does Cabrillo files. I want them specified
as FT4 for the FT4 endorsements on WAS and maybe other awards.

73 John AF5CC

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 5:48 AM Martin G0HDB <marting0hdb@...>
wrote:



Panos
 

Hi, your logger is capable for extracting adif files see: https://qsl.net/w3km/genfeats.htm 73


John Geiger AF5CC <af5cc2@...>
 

Thanks, I will look into that further, but I am not sure if the ADIF file
will still support the FT4 mode or not during the upload. I know manually
entered QSOs will and that is what I did for the RSGB FT4 contest I ran
yesterday.

73 John AF5CC

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 11:49 AM Panos <sv1grn@...> wrote:

Hi, your logger is capable for extracting adif files see:
https://qsl.net/w3km/genfeats.htm 73






Reino Talarmo
 

Hi John,

If your ADIF file contains for each QSO "<mode:4>MFSK <submode:3>FT4" fields, then you are assured that LoTW supports that ADIF file.

73, Reino OH3mA

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Geiger AF5CC
Sent: 1. maaliskuutata 2022 19:52
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT4 LOTW Upload question #logging

Thanks, I will look into that further, but I am not sure if the ADIF file will still support the FT4 mode or not during the upload. I know manually entered QSOs will and that is what I did for the RSGB FT4 contest I ran yesterday.

73 John AF5CC

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 11:49 AM Panos <sv1grn@...> wrote:

Hi, your logger is capable for extracting adif files see:
https://qsl.net/w3km/genfeats.htm 73






Martin G0HDB <marting0hdb@...>
 

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 03:31 PM, Reino Talarmo wrote:

Hi Martin,

Sri for top posting, unless something has changed from Cabrillo v3, you method
should not work as the specification says:
CATEGORY-MODE:
The category-mode must be one of the following.

CW
DIGI
FM
RTTY
SSB
MIXED
Hi again Reino, thanks for the clarification. I took the information about using 'CATEGORY-MODE: FT4' from a Cabrillo log template that the RSGB has produced for its FT4 contest series and just assumed it was correct!

Fortunately I don't have to use Cabrillo for the logs I submit for my entries to the RSGB FT4 contest series because the RSGB robot quite happily accepts logs in ADIF; I wish this was the case for more digimode contests where it can be necessary to generate a Cabrillo log from the ADIF file that the digimode software - WSJT-X or whatever - has already created.

73
--
Martin G0HDB


Jim Brown
 

On 3/1/2022 12:00 PM, Martin G0HDB wrote:
I took the information about using 'CATEGORY-MODE: FT4' from a Cabrillo log template that the RSGB has produced for its FT4 contest series and just assumed it was correct!
Cabrillo is a plain text format developed by the contesting community for online submission of contest logs. It predates LOTW, and is un-related to it.

By far, the easiest way to log WSJT-mode QSOs is one of several FREEware loggers that interoperate with JTAlert. I was lucky to discover one of them, DXKeeper, part of the DXLabs Suite, when I got back on the air in 2003. Once we've set up accounts with LOTW, eQSL, and ClubLog, and entered logins and passwords, all it takes is a mouse click to upload our log, and another to click to download confirmations. DXKeeper keeps track of QSLs, prints labels, and lots of other things.

I do a lot of contesting, using N1MM+ Logger, and after each contest, export the log as an .adi file to DXKeeper. For digital contesting, N1MM+ interoperates with WSJT-X for logging, dupe-checking, keeping track of multipliers, etc.

DXKeeper keeps track of dozens of awards, and has features that make it easy to prepare submissions.

73, Jim K9YC