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Steve Masticola
Most platforms have built-in location services these days. These rely on multiple sources of data and don't necessarily require GPS.
I'd like to request that: a) Auto Grid be set on by default, wherever any location service exists; b) Auto Grid use platform-based location services by default. This would avoid some problems with PSKReporter spots from an incorrect grid when someone does a portable operation and forgets to set the grid. 73, -Steve WX2S |
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Michael Black
What platforms have built in location services?Does seem the autogrid option could just be removed and leave it on all the time. I don't see any problem with that.
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Mike W9MDB On Friday, February 25, 2022, 05:42:09 AM CST, Steve Masticola <wx2s@...> wrote:
Most platforms have built-in location services these days. These rely on multiple sources of data and don't necessarily require GPS. I'd like to request that: a) Auto Grid be set on by default, wherever any location service exists; b) Auto Grid use platform-based location services by default. This would avoid some problems with PSKReporter spots from an incorrect grid when someone does a portable operation and forgets to set the grid. 73, -Steve WX2S |
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Joe Subich, W4TV
Platform location services are not sufficiently accurate
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for grid determination in many cases. This is particularly true for those in rural areas. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2022-02-25 5:43 AM, Steve Masticola wrote:
Most platforms have built-in location services these days. These rely on multiple sources of data and don't necessarily require GPS. |
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Steve Masticola
Windows, iOS/MacOS, and at least Ubuntu Linux have location services. Don't know offhand about others. Obviously it doesn't make sense to include this feature in an OS that doesn't support it.
Location services are accurate to GPS accuracy on platforms that have GPS. Absent that, they'd still be better than being six thousand miles off, as in the case of the Hawaii vacation. Extreme accuracy isn't usually needed. The grid that I live in (FN20) is about thirty miles by fifty miles. And it's possible for people to look up their grid square wrong or type it in wrong, too. - Steve WX2S |
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SteveO - KC5NK
My "Location Services" at home lists me anywhere from San Antonio, Austin or Dallas. Dallas would be the most accurate.
Apparently, they determine my location based on the IP address assigned to my router. My mistakes with grid, so far, is moving from my home QTH where it is correct and when setting up in a POTA site, I forget to change the grid. And then again when I fix it and then return home, where it is wrong again. I wrote my own software to control my radio (FT-891 & FT-991a) I added a GPS interface. Now I get my accurate time! (Yay me!) and while it is there, I get Lat/Lon which I convert to six ( 6 ) digit Grid Square. Next goal is to create a UDP link to WSJT-X to push Grid Square if it changes! Yes, one time I ran WSPR TX/RX while driving for an hour from QTH to POTA site. Just some side comments, as my experiences may be different... :) Best regards, Steve - KC5NK |
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Joe Subich, W4TV
On 2022-02-25 9:40 PM, SteveO via groups.io wrote:
Yes, wired devices without internal GPS are generally assigned a location based on the IP address (e.g. the router in the case of a home LAN). The location of the IP address is that provided by the ISP - generally their "server farm" servicing the connection. That is, of course, the fallacy of using "location services" for the grid in WSJTX or similar software with any of the "desktop" operating systems. It is an entirely different matter with iOS and Android where the hardware (cell phones and tablets) generally have internal GPS for location. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2022-02-25 9:40 PM, SteveO via groups.io wrote: My "Location Services" at home lists me anywhere from San Antonio, Austin or Dallas. Dallas would be the most accurate. |
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With all this being said
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Where do I tell WSJT that I have a GPS attached to my computer on USB port X, so it can go out and retrieve the info? N6RMJ -----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Masticola Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 3:44 AM To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Subject: [WSJTX] Get Auto Grid info from platform location services #EnhancementReqest Most platforms have built-in location services these days. These rely on multiple sources of data and don't necessarily require GPS. I'd like to request that: a) Auto Grid be set on by default, wherever any location service exists; b) Auto Grid use platform-based location services by default. This would avoid some problems with PSKReporter spots from an incorrect grid when someone does a portable operation and forgets to set the grid. 73, -Steve WX2S |
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Tom Melvin
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There is no ‘automatic’ option to do as you ask. See this thread from a couple of weeks back: https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main/message/32363 You can get a 3rd party script, will need tweaking a little and away you go. The script will have the settings for GPS port and generate the UDP messages WSJT-X can then use. Tom GM8MJV On 26 Feb 2022, at 17:21, PATRICK COKER <n6rmj@...> wrote: |
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