locked QSY request?? #Cat_RigControl


Hamish G0GLG
 

Hi all,

I am slightly perplexed due to something that occurred last night during the RSGB FT8AC contest.

During the contest I was suddenly aware that the set working frequency 144.174 in WSJT-X, which is the region 1 set frequency, had suddenly changed on its own violation to 144.342 and of course the radio's frequency had changed to match, this of course stood out as the frequency window had gone RED??
I of course although perplexed as to the reason, used the frequency selection drop down and switched the radio back to the correct frequency.

I then noticed a red line in the incomming frequency box which would normally have the call sign of the station calling me, but it said "PSE QSY 144.342"?
This is something I had never seen before and was so taken back having seen my radio QSY automatically to the frequency in question that it stopped me in my tracks.

Now having come onto to the WSJT-X groups.io and searched I find that there is a new addition to the plain text facility to ask a station to QSY within the Windows 64 version.

As I have a MacBook that of course has not been added to my version which is the Mac iOS 2.5.3 version of WSJT-X.

The main thing that I need answered is, Should the sending of a plain text QSY request by another station asking you to QSY also affect the frequency set at that time within WSJT-X as it did with me and therefore automatically switch the radio?

Regards
Hamish G0GLG


Roger
 

This sounds very undesirable to me. It has the ability to take you out of band either for your licence conditions or during a contest.

73
Roger
GW4HZA


Bob G8HGN
 

Hi,

The message could mean several things, "please QSY to 144.342" (not likely), but more probably " you are on 144.342, please QSY away to where you should be". The free message only allows a limited number of characters and therefore messages can be open to interpretation.

The rig seemingly moving by itself is more worrying. I've not seen the "feature" in the new version of WSJT-X, so can't comment. I'm still using V2,4.0.

I know if you manually move the dial, the frequency will follow and go red(if the QRG is not one in the box). Is it possible you had that frequency in the other VFO(previous SSB QSO) and inadvertently swapped VFO's at some point?

I seriously doubt a message like that would cause the rig to QSY to another QRB. Imagine the chaos that could cause. You could be switched to another band entirely!

73 Bob G8HGN


Reino Talarmo
 

<I seriously doubt a message like that would cause the rig to QSY to another QRB. Imagine the chaos that could cause. You could be switched to another band entirely!

73 Bob G8HGN
Hi,
I also doubt that kind of QSY frequency due to the presented text "please QSY to 144.342" in any case that message as such is not sent using free text message, very much too long.
There is another highly possible reason that the message that caused that QSY contained "CQ 342 calling_op_call locator". That feature is described in User Guide clause 10.4. Center bullet "With Split operation..." last sentence:
"On reception, when you double-click on a message like CQ nnn K1ABC FN42 your rig will QSY to the specified frequency so you can call the station at his specified response frequency."

The clause states that it is applicable in MSK144 and the fast JT9 submodes at least the setting. I have not yet tested whether is also works in FT8. You just type into Tx6 "CQ 078 call_sign locator". Somebody with two rigs on table could try it.

73, Reino OH3mA


Gordon GI6ATZ
 

Hi Hamish,

During Wednesday's FT8 contest there was a French station sending "CQ 432 F****JN03" so I guess this was possibly the station that you were hearing. I think he was looking for contacts on 70cms but the format of his CQ message, as Reino has said, caused your radio to QSY to 144.432 when you clicked on his call.

Gordon
GI6ATZ


Hamish G0GLG
 

Hi, the message was quite brief and may not have said exactly what I wrote as I was so taken back.
I also may have clicked on the station inadvertently without thinking, It was after all a contest and yes Gordon it was a French station.

Thanks all for the replies I now understand what may have happened.

Hamish
G0GLG


Bob KM4RL
 

I have found that if you double click a message that has "QSY 080" your radio will tune to X.080 where X= existing Freq in MHz.
I tested this a while ago with a buddy and it works, a nifty feature but I haven't used it since.

Bob
KM4RL
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Dave (NK7Z)
 

This has been active for at least a year... I had it happen to me back then, running FT8, looked it up in the manual, and saw that it was a feature of the WSJT-X software.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 2/4/22 05:47, Bob KM4RL wrote:
I have found that if you double click a message that has "QSY 080" your radio will tune to X.080 where X= existing Freq in MHz.
I tested this a while ago with a buddy and it works, a nifty feature but I haven't used it since.
Bob
KM4RL
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Tony Collett
 

Have to admit I missed this feature in FT8 (though use it often for MSK) and was also surprised to find my transmitter had been moved when I clicked on a CQ call on Wednesday.

In my case it was another UK station and my transmitter QSY'd to 144.178 as per the CQ call, unfortunately unlike in MSK144 my K3 did not move the Rx VFO off of 144.174 so is there a small bug in its implementation for FT8?

For the record I use Rig Split on my K3 so it receives on VFO A and transmits on VFO B - Only VFO B was moved.

Luckily I noticed and manually moved the Rx VFO so the QSO was made with just one period of information missed.

Regards Tony G4NBS


Dave Garber
 

you may have fake it toggled on....



Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 2:43 PM Tony Collett via groups.io <tony.nbs=
btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

Have to admit I missed this feature in FT8 (though use it often for MSK)
and was also surprised to find my transmitter had been moved when I clicked
on a CQ call on Wednesday.

In my case it was another UK station and my transmitter QSY'd to 144.178
as per the CQ call, unfortunately unlike in MSK144 my K3 did not move the
Rx VFO off of 144.174 so is there a small bug in its implementation for FT8?

For the record I use Rig Split on my K3 so it receives on VFO A and
transmits on VFO B - Only VFO B was moved.

Luckily I noticed and manually moved the Rx VFO so the QSO was made with
just one period of information missed.

Regards Tony G4NBS






Tony Collett
 

Negative Dave

As said my configuration is set for the K3 to operate using "RIG SPLIT" I do not use Fake it.

After the QSY was invoked by the other station only my Tx VFO (B) moved leaving the Rx VFO (A) listening on the original frequency - it all works FB on MSK144

Regards
Tony G4NBS