646,693 files & 203 GIGAbytes ! #IssueReport


JP Tucson, AZ <samcat88az@...>
 

I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.

Was looking over the PC (Win10), and saw that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! (this is my system drive and it normally only has about 31 GB on it for the system & a few other things)- Going through it, I found  646,693 files worth over 203 GB of data in the user... wsjtx - "save" directory...  from late Sept. of 2020 till present- INCLUDING the 
NEW Version v2.3.0 GA  !!!  Again, I verified that SAVE was set to off in ver 2.2.2, v2.3.0-rc1 thru 4, and the new v2.3.0, all ARE set to off, yet still saving, even after I deleted all of the junk and the directory, it just reopened a new 'save' directory and still saves files.  So apparently, the NONE button under save, does... nothing, just dead.

That was after I FOUND IT!  What I mean is, that the user...wsjtx...save file was set to HIDDEN, but certainly NOT BY ME!  I have NO hidden files, directories, etc. on my computer - since I am the only one using it, and it is password protected (mainly from burglars, if nothing else), there is no reason to hide it.

Anyway, the WSJTX issue here in that since it is set to off, WHY IS IT STILL SAVING it.


And then the following occurred to me... lots of people here are reporting strange operations, S L O W ... ops, etc. - it seems to me that wsjtx has way, waaaay too much overhead, especially in the file saving arena!!!
It's saving to the log file, it's saving to the adi file, it's saving to the large & ever growing all.txt file, and despite SAVE being turned off (NONE), it is still saving the HUGE .wav files!!!!!

I suggest the following;
a) please fix and ensure the .wav files really are NOT being saved when we select 'NONE'!
a1) Please look into if there is some code bug that is hiding the 'save' directory & .wav files (probably unintentionally- burp... it happens
     btw, it did not re-hide the directory, so I don't know if it does this when on of the versions was installed, or when it became hidden.

b) Please breakup the ALL.TXT file into smaller daily files- it will make searching for things easier, and prevent the file from becoming to large to open or search.
b1) In fact, a small utility would be useful - that would allow a user to search the log file for a callsign or date & time, then open up the appropriate all.txt file to that proper area.

Thank you 


JP Tucson, AZ <samcat88az@...>
 

P.S. Please pardon my typos...

It's kinda hard typing all this out using 1 finger on a cellphone, and worse trying to review-edit out the typos. 

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:11 AM JP Tucson, AZ via groups.io <samcat88az=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.

Was looking over the PC (Win10), and saw that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! (this is my system drive and it normally only has about 31 GB on it for the system & a few other things)- Going through it, I found  646,693 files worth over 203 GB of data in the user... wsjtx - "save" directory...  from late Sept. of 2020 till present- INCLUDING the 
NEW Version v2.3.0 GA  !!!  Again, I verified that SAVE was set to off in ver 2.2.2, v2.3.0-rc1 thru 4, and the new v2.3.0, all ARE set to off, yet still saving, even after I deleted all of the junk and the directory, it just reopened a new 'save' directory and still saves files.  So apparently, the NONE button under save, does... nothing, just dead.

That was after I FOUND IT!  What I mean is, that the user...wsjtx...save file was set to HIDDEN, but certainly NOT BY ME!  I have NO hidden files, directories, etc. on my computer - since I am the only one using it, and it is password protected (mainly from burglars, if nothing else), there is no reason to hide it.

Anyway, the WSJTX issue here in that since it is set to off, WHY IS IT STILL SAVING it.


And then the following occurred to me... lots of people here are reporting strange operations, S L O W ... ops, etc. - it seems to me that wsjtx has way, waaaay too much overhead, especially in the file saving arena!!!
It's saving to the log file, it's saving to the adi file, it's saving to the large & ever growing all.txt file, and despite SAVE being turned off (NONE), it is still saving the HUGE .wav files!!!!!

I suggest the following;
a) please fix and ensure the .wav files really are NOT being saved when we select 'NONE'!
a1) Please look into if there is some code bug that is hiding the 'save' directory & .wav files (probably unintentionally- burp... it happens
     btw, it did not re-hide the directory, so I don't know if it does this when on of the versions was installed, or when it became hidden.

b) Please breakup the ALL.TXT file into smaller daily files- it will make searching for things easier, and prevent the file from becoming to large to open or search.
b1) In fact, a small utility would be useful - that would allow a user to search the log file for a callsign or date & time, then open up the appropriate all.txt file to that proper area.

Thank you 




--
73 - John - N7GHZ



Sam Birnbaum
 

HI Jim,

I can not attest to he Save / None function, however I wrote and provide a utility program, AllText.exe
that searches the All.txt file. It does not load the file into memory, can be up and running while WSJT-X
appends to the file and given the date, the two callsigns will return the data in less than 0.5 seconds
regardless of the size of the file. The program can be found in https://groups.io/g/ProgramsByW2JDB
Its free, juts subscribe go to files and download it. Quite a few members of this group have already done so.

73,

Sam W2JDB



-----Original Message-----
From: JP Tucson, AZ <samcat88az@...>
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2021 12:02 pm
Subject: [WSJTX] 646,693 files & 203 GIGAbytes ! #BugReport

I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.

Was looking over the PC (Win10), and saw that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! (this is my system drive and it normally only has about 31 GB on it for the system & a few other things)- Going through it, I found  646,693 files worth over 203 GB of data in the user... wsjtx - "save" directory...  from late Sept. of 2020 till present- INCLUDING the 
NEW Version v2.3.0 GA  !!!  Again, I verified that SAVE was set to off in ver 2.2.2, v2.3.0-rc1 thru 4, and the new v2.3.0, all ARE set to off, yet still saving, even after I deleted all of the junk and the directory, it just reopened a new 'save' directory and still saves files.  So apparently, the NONE button under save, does... nothing, just dead.

That was after I FOUND IT!  What I mean is, that the user...wsjtx...save file was set to HIDDEN, but certainly NOT BY ME!  I have NO hidden files, directories, etc. on my computer - since I am the only one using it, and it is password protected (mainly from burglars, if nothing else), there is no reason to hide it.

Anyway, the WSJTX issue here in that since it is set to off, WHY IS IT STILL SAVING it.


And then the following occurred to me... lots of people here are reporting strange operations, S L O W ... ops, etc. - it seems to me that wsjtx has way, waaaay too much overhead, especially in the file saving arena!!!
It's saving to the log file, it's saving to the adi file, it's saving to the large & ever growing all.txt file, and despite SAVE being turned off (NONE), it is still saving the HUGE .wav files!!!!!

I suggest the following;
a) please fix and ensure the .wav files really are NOT being saved when we select 'NONE'!
a1) Please look into if there is some code bug that is hiding the 'save' directory & .wav files (probably unintentionally- burp... it happens
     btw, it did not re-hide the directory, so I don't know if it does this when on of the versions was installed, or when it became hidden.

b) Please breakup the ALL.TXT file into smaller daily files- it will make searching for things easier, and prevent the file from becoming to large to open or search.
b1) In fact, a small utility would be useful - that would allow a user to search the log file for a callsign or date & time, then open up the appropriate all.txt file to that proper area.

Thank you 




Karza
 

John,

On 2.2.2021 19.02, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.
So have most of us.


...that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! ... found  646,693 files worth over 203 GB of data in the user... wsjtx - "save" directory...  from late Sept. of 2020 till present- INCLUDING the
NEW Version v2.3.0 GA  !!!
I wonder why no-one else has reported this problem...

So apparently, the NONE button under save, does... nothing, just dead.
Only that for everyone else this button (?) seems to do exactly what is advertises.

That was after I FOUND IT!  What I mean is, that the user...wsjtx...save file was set to HIDDEN, but certainly NOT BY ME!
And certainly not by WSJT-X. Why on earth would WSJT-X try to do something like that?

It's an Open Source project. Just try to find a piece of code doing 'change a directory to hidden'  in there.


Anyway, the WSJTX issue here in that since it is set to off, WHY IS IT STILL SAVING it.
Obviously you have some problem with your computer not related to WSJT-X .

May I suggest that while you are trying to find out what's wrong with your computer, you schedule a task to delete unneeded .wav files using Windows Backgound Task facility

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-create-automated-task-using-task-scheduler-windows-10

BR,73, de Kari, oh2gqc


Dave (NK7Z)
 

Hi Kari,

I noticed you said that others are not having this issue, I just checked, and I had 57 GB of .wav files, which are now deleted...

Can someone direct me to the control which turns off, and on, the saving of .wav files? I looked all over and can not seem to locate it.

Running 2.3.0 GA release.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 2/2/21 10:39 AM, Karza wrote:
John,
On 2.2.2021 19.02, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.
So have most of us.


...that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! ... found  646,693 files worth over 203 GB of data in the user... wsjtx - "save" directory...  from late Sept. of 2020 till present- INCLUDING the
NEW Version v2.3.0 GA  !!!
I wonder why no-one else has reported this problem...

So apparently, the NONE button under save, does... nothing, just dead.
Only that for everyone else this button (?) seems to do exactly what is advertises.

That was after I FOUND IT!  What I mean is, that the user...wsjtx...save file was set to HIDDEN, but certainly NOT BY ME!
And certainly not by WSJT-X. Why on earth would WSJT-X try to do something like that?
It's an Open Source project. Just try to find a piece of code doing 'change a directory to hidden'  in there.


Anyway, the WSJTX issue here in that since it is set to off, WHY IS IT STILL SAVING it.
Obviously you have some problem with your computer not related to WSJT-X .
May I suggest that while you are trying to find out what's wrong with your computer, you schedule a task to delete unneeded .wav files using Windows Backgound Task facility
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-create-automated-task-using-task-scheduler-windows-10 BR,73, de Kari, oh2gqc


JP Tucson, AZ <samcat88az@...>
 

Hi Dave,

It's on the top menu under "SAVE", click on it & select NONE" to "try anyway" & halt saving of the .wav files.



73 - John - N7GHZ

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, 1:25 PM Dave Cole <dave@...> wrote:
Hi Kari,

I noticed you said that others are not having this issue, I just
checked, and I had 57 GB of .wav files, which are now deleted...

Can someone direct me to the control which turns off, and on, the saving
of .wav files?  I looked all over and can not seem to locate it.

Running 2.3.0 GA release.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 2/2/21 10:39 AM, Karza wrote:
> John,
>
> On 2.2.2021 19.02, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
>> I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.
>
> So have most of us.
>
>>
>> ...that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! ... found  646,693
>> files worth over 203 GB of data in the user... wsjtx - "save"
>> directory...  from late Sept. of 2020 till present- INCLUDING the
>> NEW Version v2.3.0 GA  !!!
>
> I wonder why no-one else has reported this problem...
>
>> So apparently, the NONE button under save, does... nothing, just dead.
> Only that for everyone else this button (?) seems to do exactly what is
> advertises.
>>
>> That was after I FOUND IT!  What I mean is, that the
>> user...wsjtx...save file was set to HIDDEN, but certainly NOT BY ME!
>
> And certainly not by WSJT-X. Why on earth would WSJT-X try to do
> something like that?
>
> It's an Open Source project. Just try to find a piece of code doing
> 'change a directory to hidden'  in there.
>
>>
>> Anyway, the WSJTX issue here in that since it is set to off, WHY IS IT
>> STILL SAVING it.
>
> Obviously you have some problem with your computer not related to WSJT-X .
>
> May I suggest that while you are trying to find out what's wrong with
> your computer, you schedule a task to delete unneeded .wav files using
> Windows Backgound Task facility
>
> https://www.windowscentral.com/how-create-automated-task-using-task-scheduler-windows-10
>
>
> BR,73, de Kari, oh2gqc
>
>
>
>
>
>




Bob Lewis
 

Main Menu, Save, select NONE

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 3:02 PM
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 646,693 files & 203 GIGAbytes ! #BugReport

Hi Kari,

I noticed you said that others are not having this issue, I just checked, and I had 57 GB of .wav files, which are now deleted...

Can someone direct me to the control which turns off, and on, the saving of .wav files? I looked all over and can not seem to locate it.

Running 2.3.0 GA release.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 2/2/21 10:39 AM, Karza wrote:
John,

On 2.2.2021 19.02, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.
So have most of us.


...that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! ... found 646,693
files worth over 203 GB of data in the user... wsjtx - "save"
directory... from late Sept. of 2020 till present- INCLUDING the NEW
Version v2.3.0 GA !!!
I wonder why no-one else has reported this problem...

So apparently, the NONE button under save, does... nothing, just dead.
Only that for everyone else this button (?) seems to do exactly what
is advertises.

That was after I FOUND IT! What I mean is, that the
user...wsjtx...save file was set to HIDDEN, but certainly NOT BY ME!
And certainly not by WSJT-X. Why on earth would WSJT-X try to do
something like that?

It's an Open Source project. Just try to find a piece of code doing
'change a directory to hidden' in there.


Anyway, the WSJTX issue here in that since it is set to off, WHY IS
IT STILL SAVING it.
Obviously you have some problem with your computer not related to WSJT-X .

May I suggest that while you are trying to find out what's wrong with
your computer, you schedule a task to delete unneeded .wav files using
Windows Backgound Task facility

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-create-automated-task-using-task-sc
heduler-windows-10


BR,73, de Kari, oh2gqc






Pat N6PAT
 

That option is not working right. The files are getting created by the thousands even with that option set to *None


Reino Talarmo
 

>That option is not working right. The files are getting created by the thousands even with that option set to *None

 

Hi,

It seems odd that in some, not many, installations the None button does not work. I am running both Windows 7 and Windows 10 system 24/7 and not a single *.wav file is saved once I selected None.

73, Reino OH3mA


Gary - AG0N
 

On Feb 2, 2021, at 10:02, JP Tucson, AZ <samcat88az@gmail.com> wrote:

I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.

Was looking over the PC (Win10), and saw that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! (this is my system drive
I’ve seen the topic a few times lately. For what it’s worth, I checked mine some time back to make sure it was still set to None. It was. I just checked again and there are still no files in the Save directory and I upgraded to 2.3.0 the day it was released. Sometimes, I wish there was a feature that could be turned on that would allow you to leave “Decoded” turned on and have it delete that folder every 24 or 48 hours. In other words, I’d like to be able to “discover” something I’d like to check/verify after the fact and be able to go back and look at it.

73, Gary - AG0N


Jim Shorney
 

I have been running WSJT-X exclusively in Linux since my first JT65 contact in 2014. It has not saved any WAV files since I told it not to.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 15:51:09 -0700
"Gary - AG0N" <mcduffie@ag0n.net> wrote:

On Feb 2, 2021, at 10:02, JP Tucson, AZ <samcat88az@gmail.com> wrote:

I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.

Was looking over the PC (Win10), and saw that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! (this is my system drive
I’ve seen the topic a few times lately. For what it’s worth, I checked mine some time back to make sure it was still set to None. It was. I just checked again and there are still no files in the Save directory and I upgraded to 2.3.0 the day it was released. Sometimes, I wish there was a feature that could be turned on that would allow you to leave “Decoded” turned on and have it delete that folder every 24 or 48 hours. In other words, I’d like to be able to “discover” something I’d like to check/verify after the fact and be able to go back and look at it.

73, Gary - AG0N


Dave (NK7Z)
 

Hi John,
Thanks for that, it was turned to SAVE, it is not not...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 2/2/21 12:47 PM, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
Hi Dave,
It's on the top menu under "SAVE", click on it & select NONE" to "try anyway" & halt saving of the .wav files.
73 - John - N7GHZ
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, 1:25 PM Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net <mailto:dave@nk7z.net>> wrote:
Hi Kari,
I noticed you said that others are not having this issue, I just
checked, and I had 57 GB of .wav files, which are now deleted...
Can someone direct me to the control which turns off, and on, the
saving
of .wav files?  I looked all over and can not seem to locate it.
Running 2.3.0 GA release.
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
On 2/2/21 10:39 AM, Karza wrote:
> John,
>
> On 2.2.2021 19.02, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
>> I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.
>
> So have most of us.
>
>>
>> ...that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! ... found  646,693
>> files worth over 203 GB of data in the user... wsjtx - "save"
>> directory...  from late Sept. of 2020 till present- INCLUDING the
>> NEW Version v2.3.0 GA  !!!
>
> I wonder why no-one else has reported this problem...
>
>> So apparently, the NONE button under save, does... nothing, just
dead.
> Only that for everyone else this button (?) seems to do exactly
what is
> advertises.
>>
>> That was after I FOUND IT!  What I mean is, that the
>> user...wsjtx...save file was set to HIDDEN, but certainly NOT BY ME!
>
> And certainly not by WSJT-X. Why on earth would WSJT-X try to do
> something like that?
>
> It's an Open Source project. Just try to find a piece of code doing
> 'change a directory to hidden'  in there.
>
>>
>> Anyway, the WSJTX issue here in that since it is set to off, WHY
IS IT
>> STILL SAVING it.
>
> Obviously you have some problem with your computer not related to
WSJT-X .
>
> May I suggest that while you are trying to find out what's wrong
with
> your computer, you schedule a task to delete unneeded .wav files
using
> Windows Backgound Task facility
>
>
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-create-automated-task-using-task-scheduler-windows-10

>
>
> BR,73, de Kari, oh2gqc
>
>
>
>
>
>


Dave (NK7Z)
 

Working right here... I was generating files left and right, I killed SAVE, and the issue stopped... I am on the latest 2.3.0 GA.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 2/2/21 1:27 PM, Pat N6PAT via groups.io wrote:
That option is not working right. The files are getting created by the thousands even with that option set to *None


Dave (NK7Z)
 

If on Linux, write a batch file to kill it, then cron it... I am sure there is something in Windows analogous to that.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 2/2/21 2:51 PM, Gary - AG0N wrote:

On Feb 2, 2021, at 10:02, JP Tucson, AZ <samcat88az@gmail.com> wrote:

I have had "SAVE" set to NONE set for a long time.

Was looking over the PC (Win10), and saw that AGAIN my C: drive was nearly 2/3 full ! (this is my system drive
I’ve seen the topic a few times lately. For what it’s worth, I checked mine some time back to make sure it was still set to None. It was. I just checked again and there are still no files in the Save directory and I upgraded to 2.3.0 the day it was released. Sometimes, I wish there was a feature that could be turned on that would allow you to leave “Decoded” turned on and have it delete that folder every 24 or 48 hours. In other words, I’d like to be able to “discover” something I’d like to check/verify after the fact and be able to go back and look at it.
73, Gary - AG0N


Michael Salmi
 

I use a Mac and WSJT-X 2.3.0. My disc drive is unusually full. Do any Mac users have solutions? I don’t see an option to save sound files on the Mac (2018 Mac Mini running Big Sur).
--
Mike Salmi, N9MDS


neil_zampella
 

Head to the FILE menu in WSJT-X, then select "Delete all *.wav & *.c2 files in SaveDir", that will clean out that directory of any sound files.    Then go to the SAVE menu, and select NONE.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 2/3/2021 7:56 AM, Michael Salmi wrote:
I use a Mac and WSJT-X 2.3.0. My disc drive is unusually full. Do any Mac users have solutions? I don’t see an option to save sound files on the Mac (2018 Mac Mini running Big Sur).
--
Mike Salmi, N9MDS