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Hi. For the TS440s issue, you need to talk to the Hamlib people over on:- hamlib-developer@... You'll need to subscribe to the mailing list at:- https://sourceforge.net/p/hamlib/mailman/ To get that sorted out, it's not a WSJTx problem as such. 73. Dave G0WBX. -- Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software:
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Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used & distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the package.
As for support on hamlib, nobody's home and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years according to; well, just about everyone. It is semi-orphaned.
No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there is NO selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that radio is still widely used.
Hi.
For the TS440s issue, you need to talk to the Hamlib people over on:-
hamlib-developer@...
You'll need to subscribe to the mailing list at:-
https://sourceforge.net/p/hamlib/mailman/
To get that sorted out, it's not a WSJTx problem as such.
73.
Dave G0WBX.
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John,
you are very wrong about the activity
on the Hamlib project, it is under active development and support
is extremely responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib issues
reported to the WSJT-X team or better still contribute in the form
of patches. If you can replicate an issue using the Hamlib test
utility rigctl or even the rigctld utility using the "Hamlib NET
rigctl" driver included with WSJT-X, that would be an excellent
starting point for tracking down rig model specific rig control
issues.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ
wrote:
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Show quoted text
Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used & distributed by
the wsjt-x folks as part of the package.
As for support on hamlib, nobody's home and 'they'
haven't made an upgrade in years according to; well, just about
everyone. It is semi-orphaned.
No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there is NO
selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that radio is still
widely used.
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Well Bill,
I sent you the Kenwood IC-10 manual that contains the Kenwood TS-440S codes.
If they can make a TS-440S driver for wsjt-x, that would be great! Because the regular 440 selection as it is now does not work at all with the 440S.
Here, I'll send it again... 73 - John - N7GHZ
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 3:53 AM Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...> wrote:
John,
you are very wrong about the activity
on the Hamlib project, it is under active development and support
is extremely responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib issues
reported to the WSJT-X team or better still contribute in the form
of patches. If you can replicate an issue using the Hamlib test
utility rigctl or even the rigctld utility using the "Hamlib NET
rigctl" driver included with WSJT-X, that would be an excellent
starting point for tracking down rig model specific rig control
issues.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ
wrote:
Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used & distributed by
the wsjt-x folks as part of the package.
As for support on hamlib, nobody's home and 'they'
haven't made an upgrade in years according to; well, just about
everyone. It is semi-orphaned.
No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there is NO
selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that radio is still
widely used.
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I agree Bill, The hamlib team are very active at the moment. They are preparing to release 1.4 shortly, but the mod rate is not really slowing down enough to give them a window – too many new rigs. I picked up a version from the repository a few weeks ago for my own application. 73 Phil GM3ZZA. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Bill SomervilleSent: 12 May 2020 11:53 To: WSJTX@groups.ioSubject: Re: [WSJTX] TS440s (Was Re: WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1) you are very wrong about the activity on the Hamlib project, it is under active development and support is extremely responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib issues reported to the WSJT-X team or better still contribute in the form of patches. If you can replicate an issue using the Hamlib test utility rigctl or even the rigctld utility using the "Hamlib NET rigctl" driver included with WSJT-X, that would be an excellent starting point for tracking down rig model specific rig control issues. On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used & distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the package. As for support on hamlib, nobody's home and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years according to; well, just about everyone. It is semi-orphaned. No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there is NO selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that radio is still widely used.
-- 73 Phil GM3ZZA
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Re:- As for support on hamlib, nobody's home and 'they' haven't
made an upgrade in years according to; well, just about everyone.
It is semi-orphaned.
~ ~ ~
Well. If you get on the mailing list, you'll see differently.
There is a lot of active development going on in the last few
days/weeks, so it's not abandoned or orphaned in any way.
If you want the TS440s (or anything else) added, best get on
there and start asking asap. It might not make the next official
general V4.x release, but often it appears that a close match
back-end can be altered and made available for testing.
The version that "comes with" WSJTx, is subtly different than the
official stand alone version, but they share a common birth, and I
doubt anything rig wise would be added to that version, that
wasn't first in the independent stand-alone version.
Regards.
Dave G0WBX.
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Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software:
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John,
please do the following and report back
what is printed:
open a CMD prompt window. Make a note
of your COM port number that is your CAT serial interface and type
these commands (I have used COM, substitute your COM port):
cd \WSJT\wsjtx\bin
rigctl-wsjtx -m 2002 -r COM3 -s 4800
-Cserial_handshake=Hardware -vvvvv -Z f
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 12:28, JP Tucson, AZ
wrote:
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Show quoted text
Well Bill,
I sent you the Kenwood IC-10 manual that
contains the Kenwood TS-440S codes.
If they can make a TS-440S driver for wsjt-x,
that would be great! Because the regular 440 selection as it
is now does not work at all with the 440S.
Here, I'll send it again...
73 - John -
N7GHZ
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 3:53 AM
Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...> wrote:
John,
you are very wrong about the activity on the Hamlib
project, it is under active development and support is
extremely responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib
issues reported to the WSJT-X team or better still
contribute in the form of patches. If you can replicate an
issue using the Hamlib test utility rigctl or even the
rigctld utility using the "Hamlib NET rigctl" driver
included with WSJT-X, that would be an excellent starting
point for tracking down rig model specific rig control
issues.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used &
distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the
package.
As for support on hamlib, nobody's home
and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years according
to; well, just about everyone. It is semi-orphaned.
No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there
is NO selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that
radio is still widely used.
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Hi Bill,
Ok, what is that supposed to do? What response am I looking for?
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 5:36 AM Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...> wrote:
John,
please do the following and report back
what is printed:
open a CMD prompt window. Make a note
of your COM port number that is your CAT serial interface and type
these commands (I have used COM, substitute your COM port):
cd \WSJT\wsjtx\bin
rigctl-wsjtx -m 2002 -r COM3 -s 4800
-Cserial_handshake=Hardware -vvvvv -Z f
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 12:28, JP Tucson, AZ
wrote:
Well Bill,
I sent you the Kenwood IC-10 manual that
contains the Kenwood TS-440S codes.
If they can make a TS-440S driver for wsjt-x,
that would be great! Because the regular 440 selection as it
is now does not work at all with the 440S.
Here, I'll send it again...
73 - John -
N7GHZ
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 3:53 AM
Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...> wrote:
John,
you are very wrong about the activity on the Hamlib
project, it is under active development and support is
extremely responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib
issues reported to the WSJT-X team or better still
contribute in the form of patches. If you can replicate an
issue using the Hamlib test utility rigctl or even the
rigctld utility using the "Hamlib NET rigctl" driver
included with WSJT-X, that would be an excellent starting
point for tracking down rig model specific rig control
issues.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used &
distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the
package.
As for support on hamlib, nobody's home
and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years according
to; well, just about everyone. It is semi-orphaned.
No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there
is NO selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that
radio is still widely used.
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Bill Somerville
John,
it is using a Hamlib test program to
open a connection to your rig and to send a fundamental query
command to get the current VFO frequency. It will do the same
steps that a an initial connection from WSJT-X will do but it will
print copious trace information that will help determine what is
not working for you.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 13:46, JP Tucson, AZ
wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hi Bill,
Ok, what is that supposed to do?
What response am I looking for?
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 5:36 AM
Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...>
wrote:
John,
please do the following and report back what is
printed:
open a CMD prompt window. Make a note of your COM port
number that is your CAT serial interface and type these
commands (I have used COM, substitute your COM port):
cd \WSJT\wsjtx\bin
rigctl-wsjtx -m 2002 -r COM3 -s 4800
-Cserial_handshake=Hardware -vvvvv -Z f
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 12:28, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
Well Bill,
I sent you the Kenwood IC-10 manual that
contains the Kenwood TS-440S codes.
If they can make a TS-440S driver for
wsjt-x, that would be great! Because the regular 440
selection as it is now does not work at all with the
440S.
Here, I'll send it again...
73 -
John - N7GHZ
On Tue, May 12, 2020,
3:53 AM Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...>
wrote:
John,
you are very wrong about the activity on the
Hamlib project, it is under active development and
support is extremely responsive. We are happy to
pass on Hamlib issues reported to the WSJT-X team
or better still contribute in the form of patches.
If you can replicate an issue using the Hamlib
test utility rigctl or even the rigctld utility
using the "Hamlib NET rigctl" driver included with
WSJT-X, that would be an excellent starting point
for tracking down rig model specific rig control
issues.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used &
distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the
package.
As for support on hamlib, nobody's
home and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years
according to; well, just about everyone. It is
semi-orphaned.
No, the problem is that in wsjt-x,
there is NO selection at all for the TS-440S.
Odd, since that radio is still widely used.
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That's ok; it isn't working either.
Keeps saying it's not an executable, etc.
Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever running DXpedition stations, or having auto-band/freq connections.
I am about to delete the whole thing...
If you guys don't want to support a very popular radio, by not providing a working driver... just say so.
I will repeat, the issue is that of wsjt-x! Other folks have figured this out, and I am tired of circular arguments & trying to push it off to third parties that haven't updated in over 2 years, & haven't mentioned the TS-440S in 9 years!
This is a hobby to relieve stress, not create it.
... again, I am not a software guy, I don't have the tools, but I have provided the Kenwood IC-10 docs 3 times so that you guys can compare notes on what it (the 440S) requires vs. what you guys are or are not doing correctly.
Please let me know when you guys provide support for the 440S... or if you never plan to...
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:15 AM Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...> wrote:
John,
it is using a Hamlib test program to
open a connection to your rig and to send a fundamental query
command to get the current VFO frequency. It will do the same
steps that a an initial connection from WSJT-X will do but it will
print copious trace information that will help determine what is
not working for you.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 13:46, JP Tucson, AZ
wrote:
Hi Bill,
Ok, what is that supposed to do?
What response am I looking for?
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 5:36 AM
Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...>
wrote:
John,
please do the following and report back what is
printed:
open a CMD prompt window. Make a note of your COM port
number that is your CAT serial interface and type these
commands (I have used COM, substitute your COM port):
cd \WSJT\wsjtx\bin
rigctl-wsjtx -m 2002 -r COM3 -s 4800
-Cserial_handshake=Hardware -vvvvv -Z f
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 12:28, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
Well Bill,
I sent you the Kenwood IC-10 manual that
contains the Kenwood TS-440S codes.
If they can make a TS-440S driver for
wsjt-x, that would be great! Because the regular 440
selection as it is now does not work at all with the
440S.
Here, I'll send it again...
73 -
John - N7GHZ
On Tue, May 12, 2020,
3:53 AM Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...>
wrote:
John,
you are very wrong about the activity on the
Hamlib project, it is under active development and
support is extremely responsive. We are happy to
pass on Hamlib issues reported to the WSJT-X team
or better still contribute in the form of patches.
If you can replicate an issue using the Hamlib
test utility rigctl or even the rigctld utility
using the "Hamlib NET rigctl" driver included with
WSJT-X, that would be an excellent starting point
for tracking down rig model specific rig control
issues.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used &
distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the
package.
As for support on hamlib, nobody's
home and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years
according to; well, just about everyone. It is
semi-orphaned.
No, the problem is that in wsjt-x,
there is NO selection at all for the TS-440S.
Odd, since that radio is still widely used.
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John, Do you have a Kenwood IF-232 in between the radio and your PC? Best, Eric (W1EL)
From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of JP Tucson, AZ Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 14:34 To: WSJTX@groups.io Subject: Re: [WSJTX] TS440s (Was Re: WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1) That's ok; it isn't working either. Keeps saying it's not an executable, etc. Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever running DXpedition stations, or having auto-band/freq connections. I am about to delete the whole thing... If you guys don't want to support a very popular radio, by not providing a working driver... just say so. I will repeat, the issue is that of wsjt-x! Other folks have figured this out, and I am tired of circular arguments & trying to push it off to third parties that haven't updated in over 2 years, & haven't mentioned the TS-440S in 9 years! This is a hobby to relieve stress, not create it. ... again, I am not a software guy, I don't have the tools, but I have provided the Kenwood IC-10 docs 3 times so that you guys can compare notes on what it (the 440S) requires vs. what you guys are or are not doing correctly. Please let me know when you guys provide support for the 440S... or if you never plan to... On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:15 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: it is using a Hamlib test program to open a connection to your rig and to send a fundamental query command to get the current VFO frequency. It will do the same steps that a an initial connection from WSJT-X will do but it will print copious trace information that will help determine what is not working for you. On 12/05/2020 13:46, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Hi Bill, Ok, what is that supposed to do? What response am I looking for? On Tue, May 12, 2020, 5:36 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: please do the following and report back what is printed: open a CMD prompt window. Make a note of your COM port number that is your CAT serial interface and type these commands (I have used COM, substitute your COM port): rigctl-wsjtx -m 2002 -r COM3 -s 4800 -Cserial_handshake=Hardware -vvvvv -Z f On 12/05/2020 12:28, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Well Bill, I sent you the Kenwood IC-10 manual that contains the Kenwood TS-440S codes. If they can make a TS-440S driver for wsjt-x, that would be great! Because the regular 440 selection as it is now does not work at all with the 440S. Here, I'll send it again... On Tue, May 12, 2020, 3:53 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: you are very wrong about the activity on the Hamlib project, it is under active development and support is extremely responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib issues reported to the WSJT-X team or better still contribute in the form of patches. If you can replicate an issue using the Hamlib test utility rigctl or even the rigctld utility using the "Hamlib NET rigctl" driver included with WSJT-X, that would be an excellent starting point for tracking down rig model specific rig control issues. On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used & distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the package. As for support on hamlib, nobody's home and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years according to; well, just about everyone. It is semi-orphaned. No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there is NO selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that radio is still widely used.
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No, it is NOT required!
I repeat, N1MM runs the exact same hardware & works perfectly to control the rig! No, the 2 programs, N1MM & wsjt-x don't run at the same time.
The wsjt-x 440 selection works not at all! The Ts-140S works, but is unstable.
It's not r.f.i.; I've tried it with near zero power out & into a dummy load on wsjt-x. Yet I can run N1MM PERFECTLY FINE on 100 Watts!
It's a wsjt-x problem; period!
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:47 AM W1EL Eric < elowell@...> wrote: John, Do you have a Kenwood IF-232 in between the radio and your PC? Best, Eric (W1EL) That's ok; it isn't working either. Keeps saying it's not an executable, etc. Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever running DXpedition stations, or having auto-band/freq connections. I am about to delete the whole thing... If you guys don't want to support a very popular radio, by not providing a working driver... just say so. I will repeat, the issue is that of wsjt-x! Other folks have figured this out, and I am tired of circular arguments & trying to push it off to third parties that haven't updated in over 2 years, & haven't mentioned the TS-440S in 9 years! This is a hobby to relieve stress, not create it. ... again, I am not a software guy, I don't have the tools, but I have provided the Kenwood IC-10 docs 3 times so that you guys can compare notes on what it (the 440S) requires vs. what you guys are or are not doing correctly. Please let me know when you guys provide support for the 440S... or if you never plan to... On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:15 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: it is using a Hamlib test program to open a connection to your rig and to send a fundamental query command to get the current VFO frequency. It will do the same steps that a an initial connection from WSJT-X will do but it will print copious trace information that will help determine what is not working for you. On 12/05/2020 13:46, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Hi Bill, Ok, what is that supposed to do? What response am I looking for? On Tue, May 12, 2020, 5:36 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: please do the following and report back what is printed: open a CMD prompt window. Make a note of your COM port number that is your CAT serial interface and type these commands (I have used COM, substitute your COM port): rigctl-wsjtx -m 2002 -r COM3 -s 4800 -Cserial_handshake=Hardware -vvvvv -Z f On 12/05/2020 12:28, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Well Bill, I sent you the Kenwood IC-10 manual that contains the Kenwood TS-440S codes. If they can make a TS-440S driver for wsjt-x, that would be great! Because the regular 440 selection as it is now does not work at all with the 440S. Here, I'll send it again... On Tue, May 12, 2020, 3:53 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: you are very wrong about the activity on the Hamlib project, it is under active development and support is extremely responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib issues reported to the WSJT-X team or better still contribute in the form of patches. If you can replicate an issue using the Hamlib test utility rigctl or even the rigctld utility using the "Hamlib NET rigctl" driver included with WSJT-X, that would be an excellent starting point for tracking down rig model specific rig control issues. On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used & distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the package. As for support on hamlib, nobody's home and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years according to; well, just about everyone. It is semi-orphaned. No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there is NO selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that radio is still widely used.
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John,
you have set you opinions that this is
a WSJT-X problem, you do not seem to understand that WSJT-X uses
the Hamlib rig control library for direct rig control. This
command that I am suggesting will help diagnose the problem and
possibly help others in the future. Deleting the software and just
giving up is the most unhelpful thing you can do. Please do the
following. Start a CMD prompt window and type the following:
cd \WSJT\wsjtx\bin
dir
and report back with what is printed
please?
On 12/05/2020 19:33, JP Tucson, AZ
wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
That's ok; it isn't working either.
Keeps saying it's not an executable, etc.
Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever
running DXpedition stations, or having auto-band/freq
connections.
I am about to delete the whole thing...
If you guys don't want to support a very popular
radio, by not providing a working driver... just say so.
I will repeat, the issue is that of wsjt-x!
Other folks have figured this out, and I am tired of circular
arguments & trying to push it off to third parties that
haven't updated in over 2 years, & haven't mentioned the
TS-440S in 9 years!
This is a hobby to relieve stress, not create
it.
... again, I am not a software guy, I don't have
the tools, but I have provided the Kenwood IC-10 docs 3 times
so that you guys can compare notes on what it (the 440S)
requires vs. what you guys are or are not doing correctly.
Please
let me know when you guys provide support for the 440S... or
if you never plan to...
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:15 AM
Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...> wrote:
John,
it is using a Hamlib test program to open a connection
to your rig and to send a fundamental query command to get
the current VFO frequency. It will do the same steps that
a an initial connection from WSJT-X will do but it will
print copious trace information that will help determine
what is not working for you.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 13:46, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
Hi Bill,
Ok, what is that supposed to do?
What response am I looking for?
On Tue, May 12, 2020,
5:36 AM Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...>
wrote:
John,
please do the following and report back what is
printed:
open a CMD prompt window. Make a note of your
COM port number that is your CAT serial interface
and type these commands (I have used COM,
substitute your COM port):
cd \WSJT\wsjtx\bin
rigctl-wsjtx -m 2002 -r COM3 -s 4800
-Cserial_handshake=Hardware -vvvvv -Z f
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 12:28, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
Well Bill,
I sent you the Kenwood IC-10
manual that contains the Kenwood TS-440S
codes.
If they can make a TS-440S
driver for wsjt-x, that would be great!
Because the regular 440 selection as it is now
does not work at all with the 440S.
Here, I'll send it again...
73 - John - N7GHZ
On Tue, May
12, 2020, 3:53 AM Bill Somerville < g4wjs@...>
wrote:
John,
you are very wrong about the activity
on the Hamlib project, it is under active
development and support is extremely
responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib
issues reported to the WSJT-X team or
better still contribute in the form of
patches. If you can replicate an issue
using the Hamlib test utility rigctl or
even the rigctld utility using the "Hamlib
NET rigctl" driver included with WSJT-X,
that would be an excellent starting point
for tracking down rig model specific rig
control issues.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ
wrote:
Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is
used & distributed by the wsjt-x
folks as part of the package.
As for support on hamlib,
nobody's home and 'they' haven't made an
upgrade in years according to; well,
just about everyone. It is
semi-orphaned.
No, the problem is that in
wsjt-x, there is NO selection at all for
the TS-440S. Odd, since that radio is
still widely used.
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On 2020-05-12 3:06 PM, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: No, it is NOT required! You are wrong. From the Kenwood TS-440 Instruction Manual, pg 32: * IF-232C Interface The IF-232C interface is the adapter for connection between the RS-232C terminal of a personal computer and the interface terminal of the TS-440S. What interface are you using between your computer's serial port (RS-232) or USB connector? Some interface is most certainly required. I repeat, N1MM *runs the exact same hardware* & works perfectly to
control the rig! What data rate and handshake settings are you using in N1MM? Are you using the very same settings in WSJT-X? 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2020-05-12 3:06 PM, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: No, it is NOT required!
I repeat, N1MM *runs the exact same hardware* & works perfectly to control
the rig! No, the 2 programs, N1MM & wsjt-x don't run at the same time.
The wsjt-x 440 selection works not at all! The Ts-140S works, but is
unstable.
It's not r.f.i.; I've tried it with near zero power out & into a dummy load
on wsjt-x. Yet I can run N1MM PERFECTLY FINE on 100 Watts!
It's a wsjt-x problem; period!
73 - John - N7GHZ
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:47 AM W1EL Eric <elowell@...> wrote:
John,
Do you have a Kenwood IF-232 in between the radio and your PC?
Best, Eric (W1EL)
*From:* WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *JP Tucson, AZ
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 14:34
*To:* WSJTX@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [WSJTX] TS440s (Was Re: WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1)
That's ok; it isn't working either.
Keeps saying it's not an executable, etc.
Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever running
DXpedition stations, or having auto-band/freq connections.
I am about to delete the whole thing...
If you guys don't want to support a very popular radio, by not providing a
working driver... just say so.
I will repeat, the issue is that of wsjt-x! Other folks have figured this
out, and I am tired of circular arguments & trying to push it off to third
parties that haven't updated in over 2 years, & haven't mentioned the
TS-440S in 9 years!
This is a hobby to relieve stress, not create it.
... again, I am not a software guy, I don't have the tools, but I have
provided the Kenwood IC-10 docs 3 times so that you guys can compare notes
on what it (the 440S) requires vs. what you guys are or are not doing
correctly.
Please let me know when you guys provide support for the 440S... or if you
never plan to...
- John - N7GHZ
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It's USB, not RS-232! That manual was made before USB existed! Back when +/- 12v was fairly std., not today... USB Levels are much lower.
Regardless, the N1MM would also have issues if it were a hardware issue.
Folks, please don't argue hardware with me. I have way too much experience with it. And with troubleshooting... - John - N7GHZ
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 12:47 PM Joe Subich, W4TV < lists@...> wrote:
On 2020-05-12 3:06 PM, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
> No, it is NOT required!
You are wrong. From the Kenwood TS-440 Instruction Manual, pg 32:
* IF-232C Interface
The IF-232C interface is the adapter for connection between the
RS-232C terminal of a personal computer and the interface terminal
of the TS-440S.
What interface are you using between your computer's serial port
(RS-232) or USB connector? Some interface is most certainly required.
> I repeat, N1MM *runs the exact same hardware* & works perfectly to
> control the rig!
What data rate and handshake settings are you using in N1MM? Are
you using the very same settings in WSJT-X?
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 2020-05-12 3:06 PM, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
> No, it is NOT required!
>
> I repeat, N1MM *runs the exact same hardware* & works perfectly to control
> the rig! No, the 2 programs, N1MM & wsjt-x don't run at the same time.
>
> The wsjt-x 440 selection works not at all! The Ts-140S works, but is
> unstable.
>
> It's not r.f.i.; I've tried it with near zero power out & into a dummy load
> on wsjt-x. Yet I can run N1MM PERFECTLY FINE on 100 Watts!
>
> It's a wsjt-x problem; period!
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>
>
> 73 - John - N7GHZ
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:47 AM W1EL Eric <elowell@...> wrote:
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>> John,
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>> Do you have a Kenwood IF-232 in between the radio and your PC?
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>> Best, Eric (W1EL)
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>> *From:* WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *JP Tucson, AZ
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 14:34
>> *To:* WSJTX@groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [WSJTX] TS440s (Was Re: WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1)
>>
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>> That's ok; it isn't working either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Keeps saying it's not an executable, etc.
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>>
>>
>> Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever running
>> DXpedition stations, or having auto-band/freq connections.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am about to delete the whole thing...
>>
>>
>>
>> If you guys don't want to support a very popular radio, by not providing a
>> working driver... just say so.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will repeat, the issue is that of wsjt-x! Other folks have figured this
>> out, and I am tired of circular arguments & trying to push it off to third
>> parties that haven't updated in over 2 years, & haven't mentioned the
>> TS-440S in 9 years!
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a hobby to relieve stress, not create it.
>>
>>
>>
>> ... again, I am not a software guy, I don't have the tools, but I have
>> provided the Kenwood IC-10 docs 3 times so that you guys can compare notes
>> on what it (the 440S) requires vs. what you guys are or are not doing
>> correctly.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Please let me know when you guys provide support for the 440S... or if you
>> never plan to...
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>> - John - N7GHZ
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John, I would suggest trying it with the IF-232 inserted as Kenwood designed. It is entirely possible that N1MM is using a different software scheme to create the signals to run the radio, than what WSJT uses. I know very little about such things, but it would be worth a try to hook it up as designed before you condemn the application. Very Respectfully, Eric (W1EL)
From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of JP Tucson, AZ Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 15:06 To: WSJTX@groups.io Subject: Re: [WSJTX] TS440s (Was Re: WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1) No, it is NOT required! I repeat, N1MM runs the exact same hardware & works perfectly to control the rig! No, the 2 programs, N1MM & wsjt-x don't run at the same time. The wsjt-x 440 selection works not at all! The Ts-140S works, but is unstable. It's not r.f.i.; I've tried it with near zero power out & into a dummy load on wsjt-x. Yet I can run N1MM PERFECTLY FINE on 100 Watts! It's a wsjt-x problem; period! On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:47 AM W1EL Eric <elowell@...> wrote: John, Do you have a Kenwood IF-232 in between the radio and your PC? Best, Eric (W1EL) That's ok; it isn't working either. Keeps saying it's not an executable, etc. Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever running DXpedition stations, or having auto-band/freq connections. I am about to delete the whole thing... If you guys don't want to support a very popular radio, by not providing a working driver... just say so. I will repeat, the issue is that of wsjt-x! Other folks have figured this out, and I am tired of circular arguments & trying to push it off to third parties that haven't updated in over 2 years, & haven't mentioned the TS-440S in 9 years! This is a hobby to relieve stress, not create it. ... again, I am not a software guy, I don't have the tools, but I have provided the Kenwood IC-10 docs 3 times so that you guys can compare notes on what it (the 440S) requires vs. what you guys are or are not doing correctly. Please let me know when you guys provide support for the 440S... or if you never plan to... On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:15 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: it is using a Hamlib test program to open a connection to your rig and to send a fundamental query command to get the current VFO frequency. It will do the same steps that a an initial connection from WSJT-X will do but it will print copious trace information that will help determine what is not working for you. On 12/05/2020 13:46, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Hi Bill, Ok, what is that supposed to do? What response am I looking for? On Tue, May 12, 2020, 5:36 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: please do the following and report back what is printed: open a CMD prompt window. Make a note of your COM port number that is your CAT serial interface and type these commands (I have used COM, substitute your COM port): rigctl-wsjtx -m 2002 -r COM3 -s 4800 -Cserial_handshake=Hardware -vvvvv -Z f On 12/05/2020 12:28, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Well Bill, I sent you the Kenwood IC-10 manual that contains the Kenwood TS-440S codes. If they can make a TS-440S driver for wsjt-x, that would be great! Because the regular 440 selection as it is now does not work at all with the 440S. Here, I'll send it again... On Tue, May 12, 2020, 3:53 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: you are very wrong about the activity on the Hamlib project, it is under active development and support is extremely responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib issues reported to the WSJT-X team or better still contribute in the form of patches. If you can replicate an issue using the Hamlib test utility rigctl or even the rigctld utility using the "Hamlib NET rigctl" driver included with WSJT-X, that would be an excellent starting point for tracking down rig model specific rig control issues. On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used & distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the package. As for support on hamlib, nobody's home and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years according to; well, just about everyone. It is semi-orphaned. No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there is NO selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that radio is still widely used.
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I am going to state this, I run an Icom 746 and I have run N1MM and WSJT together, it works… I switched to HRD because I have it… So your TS-440 should talk to N1MM and thus to WSJT
From: WSJTX@groups.io [mailto:WSJTX@groups.io] On Behalf Of JP Tucson, AZ
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 2:06 PM
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] TS440s (Was Re: WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1) No, it is NOT required! I repeat, N1MM runs the exact same hardware & works perfectly to control the rig! No, the 2 programs, N1MM & wsjt-x don't run at the same time. The wsjt-x 440 selection works not at all! The Ts-140S works, but is unstable. It's not r.f.i.; I've tried it with near zero power out & into a dummy load on wsjt-x. Yet I can run N1MM PERFECTLY FINE on 100 Watts! It's a wsjt-x problem; period! On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:47 AM W1EL Eric <elowell@...> wrote: John, Do you have a Kenwood IF-232 in between the radio and your PC? Best, Eric (W1EL) That's ok; it isn't working either. Keeps saying it's not an executable, etc. Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever running DXpedition stations, or having auto-band/freq connections. I am about to delete the whole thing... If you guys don't want to support a very popular radio, by not providing a working driver... just say so. I will repeat, the issue is that of wsjt-x! Other folks have figured this out, and I am tired of circular arguments & trying to push it off to third parties that haven't updated in over 2 years, & haven't mentioned the TS-440S in 9 years! This is a hobby to relieve stress, not create it. ... again, I am not a software guy, I don't have the tools, but I have provided the Kenwood IC-10 docs 3 times so that you guys can compare notes on what it (the 440S) requires vs. what you guys are or are not doing correctly. Please let me know when you guys provide support for the 440S... or if you never plan to... On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:15 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: it is using a Hamlib test program to open a connection to your rig and to send a fundamental query command to get the current VFO frequency. It will do the same steps that a an initial connection from WSJT-X will do but it will print copious trace information that will help determine what is not working for you. On 12/05/2020 13:46, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Hi Bill, Ok, what is that supposed to do? What response am I looking for? On Tue, May 12, 2020, 5:36 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: please do the following and report back what is printed: open a CMD prompt window. Make a note of your COM port number that is your CAT serial interface and type these commands (I have used COM, substitute your COM port): rigctl-wsjtx -m 2002 -r COM3 -s 4800 -Cserial_handshake=Hardware -vvvvv -Z f On 12/05/2020 12:28, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Well Bill, I sent you the Kenwood IC-10 manual that contains the Kenwood TS-440S codes. If they can make a TS-440S driver for wsjt-x, that would be great! Because the regular 440 selection as it is now does not work at all with the 440S. Here, I'll send it again... On Tue, May 12, 2020, 3:53 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote: you are very wrong about the activity on the Hamlib project, it is under active development and support is extremely responsive. We are happy to pass on Hamlib issues reported to the WSJT-X team or better still contribute in the form of patches. If you can replicate an issue using the Hamlib test utility rigctl or even the rigctld utility using the "Hamlib NET rigctl" driver included with WSJT-X, that would be an excellent starting point for tracking down rig model specific rig control issues. On 12/05/2020 11:38, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: Dave, I disagree as the Hamlib is used & distributed by the wsjt-x folks as part of the package. As for support on hamlib, nobody's home and 'they' haven't made an upgrade in years according to; well, just about everyone. It is semi-orphaned. No, the problem is that in wsjt-x, there is NO selection at all for the TS-440S. Odd, since that radio is still widely used.
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On 2020-05-12 4:03 PM, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: It's USB, not RS-232! Then you *do have* an IF-232C equivalent. It just has a USB connection to the PC and not an RS-232 port. Regardless, the N1MM would also have issues if it were a hardware
issue. What chip set does your USB to IF-232 interface use? Some chip set drivers do not work well with some compilers. If your "cable" does not use a genuine FTDI chip set you could be dealing with a driver issue. N1MM almost certainly uses a different compiler than WSJTX and the WSJTX compiler may be triggering a bug in your interface cable. What communications parameters *and* "handshake" settings are you using with N1MM? Have you *duplicated* those settings *exactly* in WSJTX? The most common problem with WSJTX and *ALL* of the old TTL interfaced Kenwood transceivers (those with a 6pin DIN CAT jack)is failing to set the "Handshake" in WSJTX to *HARDWARE* (or "Force Control Lines RTS=High"). Folks, please don't argue hardware with me. I have way too much
experience with it. And with troubleshooting... Don't come around here asking for help then copping an attitude. G4WJS is one of the developers of WSJTX and you can't be bothered to run a simple diagnostic for him. I've been supporting digital interface (sound card and CAT) products for 15+ years and was writing widely used serial drivers to add "extra" serial ports to early IBM PCs 35 years ago (using Microsoft Assembler) in MSDOS. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2020-05-12 4:03 PM, JP Tucson, AZ wrote: It's USB, not RS-232! That manual was made before USB existed! Back when
+/- 12v was fairly std., not today... USB Levels are much lower.
Regardless, the N1MM would also have issues if it were a hardware issue.
Folks, please don't argue hardware with me. I have way too much experience
with it. And with troubleshooting...
- John - N7GHZ
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 12:47 PM Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:
On 2020-05-12 3:06 PM, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
> No, it is NOT required!
You are wrong. From the Kenwood TS-440 Instruction Manual, pg 32:
* IF-232C Interface
The IF-232C interface is the adapter for connection between the
RS-232C terminal of a personal computer and the interface terminal
of the TS-440S.
What interface are you using between your computer's serial port
(RS-232) or USB connector? Some interface is most certainly required.
I repeat, N1MM *runs the exact same hardware* & works perfectly to
control the rig! What data rate and handshake settings are you using in N1MM? Are
you using the very same settings in WSJT-X?
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 2020-05-12 3:06 PM, JP Tucson, AZ wrote:
No, it is NOT required!
I repeat, N1MM *runs the exact same hardware* & works perfectly to control
the rig! No, the 2 programs, N1MM & wsjt-x don't run at the same time.
The wsjt-x 440 selection works not at all! The Ts-140S works, but is
unstable.
It's not r.f.i.; I've tried it with near zero power out & into a dummy load
on wsjt-x. Yet I can run N1MM PERFECTLY FINE on 100 Watts!
It's a wsjt-x problem; period!
73 - John - N7GHZ
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:47 AM W1EL Eric <elowell@...> wrote:
John,
Do you have a Kenwood IF-232 in between the radio and your PC?
Best, Eric (W1EL)
*From:* WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *JP Tucson, AZ
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 14:34
*To:* WSJTX@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [WSJTX] TS440s (Was Re: WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1)
That's ok; it isn't working either.
Keeps saying it's not an executable, etc.
Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever running
DXpedition stations, or having auto-band/freq connections.
I am about to delete the whole thing...
If you guys don't want to support a very popular radio, by not providing a
working driver... just say so.
I will repeat, the issue is that of wsjt-x! Other folks have figured
this
out, and I am tired of circular arguments & trying to push it off to
third
parties that haven't updated in over 2 years, & haven't mentioned the
TS-440S in 9 years!
This is a hobby to relieve stress, not create it.
... again, I am not a software guy, I don't have the tools, but I have
provided the Kenwood IC-10 docs 3 times so that you guys can compare
notes
on what it (the 440S) requires vs. what you guys are or are not doing
correctly.
Please let me know when you guys provide support for the 440S... or if
you
never plan to...
- John - N7GHZ
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It isn't a WSJT-X issue either. Those who have it working, use a good quality cable with an FTDIRQ chipset.
If one uses a Jahnke cable, like I used to, you can eliminate the "box" as it has an IC-10 built into the cable.
The last time I had WSJT-X running (2018) on a TS-440, I was using HRD for rig control. According to my notes, I had to turn CTS handshaking off.
73 N1ESE
Hi.
For the TS440s issue, you need to talk to the Hamlib people over on:-
hamlib-developer@...
You'll need to subscribe to the mailing list at:-
https://sourceforge.net/p/hamlib/mailman/
To get that sorted out, it's not a WSJTx problem as such.
73.
Dave G0WBX.
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Jim Shorney
John, you can do that without CAT. In fact, IMO every ham should know how to run without CAT because Murphy dictates that it will fail when you most need it. 73 -Jim NU0C On Tue, 12 May 2020 11:33:56 -0700 "JP Tucson, AZ" <samcat88az@...> wrote: Never mind; I guess I'll just give up on ever running DXpedition stations,
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