Locked Error in Sound Output: An Error open the audio outout device has occurred??


Ed Oxer, W8EO <oxer@...>
 

What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts 
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.


Bill Somerville
 

On 12/04/2020 14:22, Ed Oxer, W8EO wrote:
What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.
Hi Ed,

the most likely cause is RFI disrupting the USB connection between your rig and PC. Try using a different aerial, dummy load, or reduced power and see if that eliminates the issue.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


John
 

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
Date: April 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM


On 12/04/2020 14:22, Ed Oxer, W8EO wrote:
What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info
on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears
even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem
but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.
Hi Ed,

the most likely cause is RFI disrupting the USB connection between your
rig and PC. Try using a different aerial, dummy load, or reduced power
and see if that eliminates the issue.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

Please share where you obtained these and any other model/ spec information. Many of us could take advantage of this information.

Bob, K4TAX

On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:28 AM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:

You could also only use cables that have chokes on them.

These are what I use, no problems in my shack.

https://www.amazon.ca/Hi-Speed-Cable-Ferrite-Chokes-3-Ft/dp/B008VOPCGY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XE1SX7A7UMVB&keywords=tripp+lite+usb+2.0+hi-speed+a%2Fb+cable+with+ferrite+chokes&qid=1586701608&sprefix=usb+cables+a+to+b+with+choke%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1

John
VE3KKQ
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
Date: April 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM


On 12/04/2020 14:22, Ed Oxer, W8EO wrote:
What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info
on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears
even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem
but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.
Hi Ed,

the most likely cause is RFI disrupting the USB connection between your
rig and PC. Try using a different aerial, dummy load, or reduced power
and see if that eliminates the issue.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


neil_zampella <neilz@...>
 

Bob,

he's given you the link to the cables at Amazon, all you have to do is click on the link.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/12/2020 10:32 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
Please share where you obtained these and any other model/ spec information.  Many of us could take advantage of this information.

Bob, K4TAX
On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:28 AM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:

You could also only use cables that have chokes on them.

These are what I use, no problems in my shack.

https://www.amazon.ca/Hi-Speed-Cable-Ferrite-Chokes-3-Ft/dp/B008VOPCGY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XE1SX7A7UMVB&keywords=tripp+lite+usb+2.0+hi-speed+a%2Fb+cable+with+ferrite+chokes&qid=1586701608&sprefix=usb+cables+a+to+b+with+choke%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1

John
VE3KKQ
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
Date: April 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM


On 12/04/2020 14:22, Ed Oxer, W8EO wrote:
What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info
on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears
even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem
but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.
Hi Ed,

the most likely cause is RFI disrupting the USB connection between your
rig and PC. Try using a different aerial, dummy load, or reduced power
and see if that eliminates the issue.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



      



    

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neil_zampella <neilz@...>
 

Of course, you probably have to take the info down, and then go to the US site, Amazon.com

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/12/2020 10:46 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:

Bob,

he's given you the link to the cables at Amazon, all you have to do is click on the link.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/12/2020 10:32 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
Please share where you obtained these and any other model/ spec information.  Many of us could take advantage of this information.

Bob, K4TAX
On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:28 AM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:

You could also only use cables that have chokes on them.

These are what I use, no problems in my shack.

https://www.amazon.ca/Hi-Speed-Cable-Ferrite-Chokes-3-Ft/dp/B008VOPCGY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XE1SX7A7UMVB&keywords=tripp+lite+usb+2.0+hi-speed+a%2Fb+cable+with+ferrite+chokes&qid=1586701608&sprefix=usb+cables+a+to+b+with+choke%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1

John
VE3KKQ
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
Date: April 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM


On 12/04/2020 14:22, Ed Oxer, W8EO wrote:
What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info
on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears
even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem
but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.
Hi Ed,

the most likely cause is RFI disrupting the USB connection between your
rig and PC. Try using a different aerial, dummy load, or reduced power
and see if that eliminates the issue.

73
Bill
G4WJS.




      

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Herb Blue - WB8ASI
 

I got an assortment from DX Engineering (look under filters).  Using a toroid on the USB cable with many wraps.  Have snap-on for the mouse and keyboard.   Wrap as many times as you can.  I think the suppression increases by the square of the turns.  I use Mix 31.  Work great. 73, Herb WB8ASI

On April 12, 2020 at 10:47 AM neil_zampella <neilz@...> wrote:

Of course, you probably have to take the info down, and then go to the US site, Amazon.com

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/12/2020 10:46 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:

Bob,

he's given you the link to the cables at Amazon, all you have to do is click on the link.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/12/2020 10:32 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
Please share where you obtained these and any other model/ spec information.  Many of us could take advantage of this information.

Bob, K4TAX
On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:28 AM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:

You could also only use cables that have chokes on them.

These are what I use, no problems in my shack.

https://www.amazon.ca/Hi-Speed-Cable-Ferrite-Chokes-3-Ft/dp/B008VOPCGY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XE1SX7A7UMVB&keywords=tripp+lite+usb+2.0+hi-speed+a%2Fb+cable+with+ferrite+chokes&qid=1586701608&sprefix=usb+cables+a+to+b+with+choke%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1

John
VE3KKQ
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
Date: April 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM


On 12/04/2020 14:22, Ed Oxer, W8EO wrote:
What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info
on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears
even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem
but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.
Hi Ed,

the most likely cause is RFI disrupting the USB connection between your
rig and PC. Try using a different aerial, dummy load, or reduced power
and see if that eliminates the issue.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



 

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Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

There are no "specs" as to the type of chokes used.  All chokes are not created equal.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 4/12/2020 9:46 AM, neil_zampella wrote:

Bob,

he's given you the link to the cables at Amazon, all you have to do is click on the link.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/12/2020 10:32 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
Please share where you obtained these and any other model/ spec information.  Many of us could take advantage of this information.

Bob, K4TAX
On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:28 AM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:

You could also only use cables that have chokes on them.

These are what I use, no problems in my shack.

https://www.amazon.ca/Hi-Speed-Cable-Ferrite-Chokes-3-Ft/dp/B008VOPCGY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XE1SX7A7UMVB&keywords=tripp+lite+usb+2.0+hi-speed+a%2Fb+cable+with+ferrite+chokes&qid=1586701608&sprefix=usb+cables+a+to+b+with+choke%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1

John
VE3KKQ
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
Date: April 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM


On 12/04/2020 14:22, Ed Oxer, W8EO wrote:
What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info
on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears
even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem
but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.
Hi Ed,

the most likely cause is RFI disrupting the USB connection between your
rig and PC. Try using a different aerial, dummy load, or reduced power
and see if that eliminates the issue.

73
Bill
G4WJS.




Virus-free. www.avg.com


    


randykc@...
 

Good Morning ED, And Happy Easter .

I was running FT8 on my oil computer, But it crashed and I bought a new one and reinstalled everything new sense I did that I am having problems. I am running Windows 10

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:49 AM
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Error in Sound Output: An Error open the audio outout device has occurred??

 

There are no "specs" as to the type of chokes used.  All chokes are not created equal.

73

Bob, K4TAX

 

 

On 4/12/2020 9:46 AM, neil_zampella wrote:

Bob,

he's given you the link to the cables at Amazon, all you have to do is click on the link.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/12/2020 10:32 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:

Please share where you obtained these and any other model/ spec information.  Many of us could take advantage of this information.
 
Bob, K4TAX
On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:28 AM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:
 
You could also only use cables that have chokes on them.
 
These are what I use, no problems in my shack.
 
https://www.amazon.ca/Hi-Speed-Cable-Ferrite-Chokes-3-Ft/dp/B008VOPCGY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XE1SX7A7UMVB&keywords=tripp+lite+usb+2.0+hi-speed+a%2Fb+cable+with+ferrite+chokes&qid=1586701608&sprefix=usb+cables+a+to+b+with+choke%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1
 
John
VE3KKQ
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
Date: April 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM
 
 
On 12/04/2020 14:22, Ed Oxer, W8EO wrote:
What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info
on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears
even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem
but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.
Hi Ed,
 
the most likely cause is RFI disrupting the USB connection between your
rig and PC. Try using a different aerial, dummy load, or reduced power
and see if that eliminates the issue.
 
73
Bill
G4WJS.
 
 



 

Virus-free. www.avg.com



 

 


Jon Ermels
 

There are many types of chokes, here he is referring to a ferrite choke, the "spec" would refer to the mix number.

73 de NØIGU Jon


On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 10:49:29 AM CDT, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...> wrote:


There are no "specs" as to the type of chokes used.  All chokes are not created equal.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 4/12/2020 9:46 AM, neil_zampella wrote:

Bob,

he's given you the link to the cables at Amazon, all you have to do is click on the link.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/12/2020 10:32 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
Please share where you obtained these and any other model/ spec information.  Many of us could take advantage of this information.

Bob, K4TAX
On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:28 AM, John <jonie41@...> wrote:

You could also only use cables that have chokes on them.

These are what I use, no problems in my shack.

https://www.amazon.ca/Hi-Speed-Cable-Ferrite-Chokes-3-Ft/dp/B008VOPCGY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=XE1SX7A7UMVB&keywords=tripp+lite+usb+2.0+hi-speed+a%2Fb+cable+with+ferrite+chokes&qid=1586701608&sprefix=usb+cables+a+to+b+with+choke%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-1

John
VE3KKQ
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
Date: April 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM


On 12/04/2020 14:22, Ed Oxer, W8EO wrote:
What is this? This message appears randomly. I have read all the info
on the Web about this and am no further ahead in addressing this.
Sometimes the app works well but at other times this message appears
even when the app is working. Sometimes the message shuts
down the radio. After alot of "horsing" around I can fix this problem
but with no degree of consistency. In advance thanks for any help.
Hi Ed,

the most likely cause is RFI disrupting the USB connection between your
rig and PC. Try using a different aerial, dummy load, or reduced power
and see if that eliminates the issue.

73
Bill
G4WJS.




Virus-free. www.avg.com



  


Jim Brown
 

On 4/12/2020 9:04 AM, Jon Ermels via groups.io wrote:
There are many types of chokes, here he is referring to a ferrite choke, the "spec" would refer to the mix number.
No, the mix number is NOT "the" spec, it is only part of the spec. The cables in the link only go through the core once, which causes the effectiveness of the choke to peak around 150MHz. If you need a choke that works on the HF bands, you need multiple turns through Fair-Rite #31 material.

See k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf for a tutorial on how chokes work.

http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf is a tutorial on finding and killing RX noise, and the chokes described in it work equally well for RF pickup on cables.

On 4/12/2020 7:58 AM, Jim Bacher - WB8VSU wrote:
Plus with good cables the products would pass without ferrites.
Passing FCC Rules does not mean a product won't produce noise that we hear on the MF and HF bands because the tests are not meaningful -- they don't expose the design/construction errors that put RF noise on interconnecting cables. The most common error is "The Pin One Problem," whereby the cable shield goes through the shielding enclosure without being bonded to it.

However
in ham radio apps, the ferrites are a good idea due to the RF
environment.

Ferrites are generally needed because 99.9% of products are built with "Pin One Problems."

I do agree with the observation that many (most?) commercially available cables are of poor quality, and without sacrificing one by cutting it open, there's no easy way to evaluate them.

73, Jim K9YC


Ed Oxer, W8EO <oxer@...>
 

Hello everyone, 

Tnx for all the feedback. I tried the recommendations about turning the rf down and that seems to have done the trick. At 20 watts the problem 
is gone. I have some ferrite on the coax to my less than ideal antenna. My home qth is Lansing MI and we are in an apartment, 3rd floor, 35 foot 
balcony which is surrounded by rebar and cement. I am limited to a 20 dipole which is very close to the rig. I don't recall having this problem at home
with a cushcraft r5 and g5rv antennas. The setup actually does pretty well on with a clear shot at the ocean up the East coast and into Europe. 
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dk1wb
 

 

Hi Ed,

USB communication between PC and TRX is not reliable if the antenna is too close. QRP is certainly a solution but you may want to try this:
Connecting the shield of the Notebook-USB connector to station ground by means of a ground clip from a scope probe should allows you some QRO (see attached picture).

73 and GL,
Hans, DK1WB

 

Hello everyone,

Tnx for all the feedback. I tried the recommendations about turning the rf down
and that seems to have done the trick. At 20 watts the problem
is gone. I have some ferrite on the coax to my less than ideal antenna. My home
qth is Lansing MI and we are in an apartment, 3rd floor, 35 foot
balcony which is surrounded by rebar and cement. I am limited to a 20 dipole
which is very close to the rig. I don't recall having this problem at home
with a cushcraft r5 and g5rv antennas. The setup actually does pretty well on
with a clear shot at the ocean up the East coast and into Europe.



Jim Brown
 

On 4/13/2020 9:10 AM, dk1wb@... wrote:
USB communication between PC and TRX is not reliable if the antenna is too close. QRP is certainly a solution but you may want to try this:
Connecting the shield of the Notebook-USB connector to station ground by means of a ground clip from a scope probe should allows you some QRO (see attached picture).
This should ALWAYS be done. Indeed, ALL equipment that is part of the station should have its chassis bonded to all other equipment in the station, and to station ground, AND every ground in our homes should be bonded together. This is fundamental good engineering practice, and in most parts of the world it is the LAW.

There is detailed advice in this set of slides for talks I've given at Pacificon, Visalia, and to multiple clubs.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

It is specifically written for North American building Codes (Law); differences between codes in various parts of the world are addressed in this "white paper" for professional audio and video contractors.

http://k9yc.com/SurgeXPowerGround.pdf

73, Jim K9YC