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Joe Wallace, W7RNX
 

Upgraded WSJT-X to ver. 2.1.2 and JTAlert to 2.16.1.  Problems:

1.  WSJT-X waterfall does not display properly and program is not decoding.  There is no spacing showing the time intervals during decoding on the waterfall and the decoding is not appearing in the "band activity" window.

2.  I can not get the JTAlert program to coordinate between WSJT-X and ACLog.  prior to the upgrades, both programs worked fine and coordinated (sent log info) to the logging program.

I have attempted several program changes (checked the boxes, etc.) in both programs.

My operations equipment include IC-735 with RigBlaster interface to HP Laptop running Windows 10 and the WSJTX and JTAlert programs (versions as noted above).

Also, Fldigi program appears to work fine, thus indicating no issues with Laptop sound card?

Any suggestions would be helpful.  Failing that, I will be reloading older versions (if possible) to get back on the air.  It would appear that upgrades always comes with problems rather than solving problems.

Joe Wallace, W7RNX
Bill Somerville
 

On 12/03/2020 07:03, Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io wrote:
Upgraded WSJT-X to ver. 2.1.2 and JTAlert to 2.16.1.  Problems:

1.  WSJT-X waterfall does not display properly and program is not decoding.  There is no spacing showing the time intervals during decoding on the waterfall and the decoding is not appearing in the "band activity" window.

2.  I can not get the JTAlert program to coordinate between WSJT-X and ACLog.  prior to the upgrades, both programs worked fine and coordinated (sent log info) to the logging program.

I have attempted several program changes (checked the boxes, etc.) in both programs.

My operations equipment include IC-735 with RigBlaster interface to HP Laptop running Windows 10 and the WSJTX and JTAlert programs (versions as noted above).

Also, Fldigi program appears to work fine, thus indicating no issues with Laptop sound card?

Any suggestions would be helpful.  Failing that, I will be reloading older versions (if possible) to get back on the air.  It would appear that upgrades always comes with problems rather than solving problems.

Joe Wallace, W7RNX
Hi Joe,

the Wide Graph control "N Avg" controls the speed of the waterfall display, decrease it to get wider period spacing.

The most common reasons for failures to decode are PC clock inaccuracy and incorrect audio device selection in "Settings->Audio".

73
Bill
G4WJS.
Joe Wallace, W7RNX
 

Tried everything:  reloaded v2.1.2, reset audio setting, restarted and confirmed Meinberg NTP (clock), adjusted sound card audio settings on Laptop, set "N Avg" to 1 and tried other settings as well,  adjusted Bins/pixel,etc. STILL no decode and waterfall is still compressed.  I am seeing signals on the waterfall and hearing good audio from the radio itself.  The waterfall visuals are still very compressed and are not being decoded.  Also tried several bands (80m, 40m, 20, 10m, 17m).  Tried various squelch level settings.  still no success.  What am I missing?  Until this issue started a couple weeks ago, I had no issues and have made hundreds of FT8 contacts using WSJT-X and on numerous bands.
Arnold Lausevich <nk9o@...>
 

This same issue here and I had to use "Administer" setting to get it to work on my computer.  Never figured out what was wrong.

On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 11:54:39 AM PDT, Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io <joefirevfw@...> wrote:


Tried everything:  reloaded v2.1.2, reset audio setting, restarted and confirmed Meinberg NTP (clock), adjusted sound card audio settings on Laptop, set "N Avg" to 1 and tried other settings as well,  adjusted Bins/pixel,etc. STILL no decode and waterfall is still compressed.  I am seeing signals on the waterfall and hearing good audio from the radio itself.  The waterfall visuals are still very compressed and are not being decoded.  Also tried several bands (80m, 40m, 20, 10m, 17m).  Tried various squelch level settings.  still no success.  What am I missing?  Until this issue started a couple weeks ago, I had no issues and have made hundreds of FT8 contacts using WSJT-X and on numerous bands.
Zeev Stadler
 

I sometimes see the same symptoms when the PC is running other programs that consume CPU power, memory, or disk access.

To see if this is the case, I would recommend restarting the computer and closing any other software that may be running.
--

73
Zeev
4X5ZS
Joe Wallace, W7RNX
 

I have tried everything!!!!!!  Even updated the drivers for the sound cards today.  Did several re-installs of the WSJT-X program and the JTAlert program, restarted the laptop several times.  Even RTFM and followed through the steps for setting up the various programs..  AND I STILL HAVE NO DECODE (or occasionally intermittent decode) AND THE DAMN WATERFALL IS STILL COMPRESSED even after changing various settings several times.
I am not a computer nerd or guru, but have a pretty good understanding of being able to adjust settings, enable and disable programs, etc. 
I have read many of the related posts on this forum and have tried many of the suggestions.  It appears that others are having similar problems, but some replies appear to have been simple guesses or uneducated suggestions based upon who knows what!
Pardon my ranting.
On February 10 I made 6 FT8 contacts and between February 3 and 9, had 20 contacts logged with no issues at all.  (My logging program is N3FJP' ACLog, ver 6.6).  Since 2/10 I have only been able to make 5 FT8 contacts in between the NO DECODE and COMPRESSED WATERFALL incidents that are still occurring after many attempts at adjustments and reloads as noted above.
I hope (for my sake as well as other WSJT users) that someone somewhere (Source Forge, etc.) is paying attention and is ACTUALLY working on the problem.  I am not alone as is apparent by the number of problems other Hams are reporting on this and other forums.
Harvey Hamel
 

Hi Joe,

Just to add,

My last valid FT8 QSO's were 2020-03-22.  A windows 10 update occurred, for me, on  2020-03-23 . Since then I can only use MSK144.
Like you, I have tried lots of settings, microphone testing, installing new sound card, and reinstall WSJT-X. 

Some have reported success with uninstalling latest windows 10 update. I tried that, but in my case, my windows 10 did not un-install cleanly. I get error that parts of the up-date could not be uninstalled. 

That scared me, but my system still runs and I can still run MSK144.

73,

N2CB
Harv



On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:44 PM Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io <joefirevfw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have tried everything!!!!!!  Even updated the drivers for the sound cards today.  Did several re-installs of the WSJT-X program and the JTAlert program, restarted the laptop several times.  Even RTFM and followed through the steps for setting up the various programs..  AND I STILL HAVE NO DECODE (or occasionally intermittent decode) AND THE DAMN WATERFALL IS STILL COMPRESSED even after changing various settings several times.
I am not a computer nerd or guru, but have a pretty good understanding of being able to adjust settings, enable and disable programs, etc. 
I have read many of the related posts on this forum and have tried many of the suggestions.  It appears that others are having similar problems, but some replies appear to have been simple guesses or uneducated suggestions based upon who knows what!
Pardon my ranting.
On February 10 I made 6 FT8 contacts and between February 3 and 9, had 20 contacts logged with no issues at all.  (My logging program is N3FJP' ACLog, ver 6.6).  Since 2/10 I have only been able to make 5 FT8 contacts in between the NO DECODE and COMPRESSED WATERFALL incidents that are still occurring after many attempts at adjustments and reloads as noted above.
I hope (for my sake as well as other WSJT users) that someone somewhere (Source Forge, etc.) is paying attention and is ACTUALLY working on the problem.  I am not alone as is apparent by the number of problems other Hams are reporting on this and other forums.

n5qs
 

Check your Microphone Privacy Settings
The Windows 10 virus broke this on a recent update and you need to go to permissions to fix it.
May not be your problem but is for some.
Roger

On 3/27/2020 3:40 PM, Harvey Hamel wrote:

Hi Joe,

Just to add,

My last valid FT8 QSO's were 2020-03-22.  A windows 10 update occurred, for me, on  2020-03-23 . Since then I can only use MSK144.
Like you, I have tried lots of settings, microphone testing, installing new sound card, and reinstall WSJT-X. 

Some have reported success with uninstalling latest windows 10 update. I tried that, but in my case, my windows 10 did not un-install cleanly. I get error that parts of the up-date could not be uninstalled. 

That scared me, but my system still runs and I can still run MSK144.

73,

N2CB
Harv



On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:44 PM Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io <joefirevfw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have tried everything!!!!!!  Even updated the drivers for the sound cards today.  Did several re-installs of the WSJT-X program and the JTAlert program, restarted the laptop several times.  Even RTFM and followed through the steps for setting up the various programs..  AND I STILL HAVE NO DECODE (or occasionally intermittent decode) AND THE DAMN WATERFALL IS STILL COMPRESSED even after changing various settings several times.
I am not a computer nerd or guru, but have a pretty good understanding of being able to adjust settings, enable and disable programs, etc. 
I have read many of the related posts on this forum and have tried many of the suggestions.  It appears that others are having similar problems, but some replies appear to have been simple guesses or uneducated suggestions based upon who knows what!
Pardon my ranting.
On February 10 I made 6 FT8 contacts and between February 3 and 9, had 20 contacts logged with no issues at all.  (My logging program is N3FJP' ACLog, ver 6.6).  Since 2/10 I have only been able to make 5 FT8 contacts in between the NO DECODE and COMPRESSED WATERFALL incidents that are still occurring after many attempts at adjustments and reloads as noted above.
I hope (for my sake as well as other WSJT users) that someone somewhere (Source Forge, etc.) is paying attention and is ACTUALLY working on the problem.  I am not alone as is apparent by the number of problems other Hams are reporting on this and other forums. 


    

    

  


					


				
				
				
			

			
			

				
	

	

	
	

		
			

				
					

				
				

					

						
						
					

				

			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
				

	



			
		
			
				
	

		
			
			

			
			
			

				

					


						
							
								
	
		
			
		
		
  
	
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Joe, I went back and reread your previous posts and have two questions for you. 

1. You said you had Meinberg running, but you didn't say you confirmed it was working correctly by going to https://time.is to confirm it was working. Did you check it on that website?

2. Besides the other things mentioned, make sure your anti-virus program is not scanning the audio directory. Have you done that? 

Unless the others who say they are having issues bring it to this discussion list, the developers will not "hear" their issues. Back when I worked, one of IT issues I had were people were complaining to everyone about computer issues, except those who could actually help them. They need to be on this list to get help. 

Jim Bacher, WB8VSU 
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:44 PM, Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io
<joefirevfw@...> wrote:
 
 
 
I have tried everything!!!!!!  Even updated the drivers for the sound cards today.  Did several re-installs of the WSJT-X program and the JTAlert program, restarted the laptop several times.  Even RTFM and followed through the steps for setting up the various programs..  AND I STILL HAVE NO DECODE (or occasionally intermittent decode) AND THE DAMN WATERFALL IS STILL COMPRESSED even after changing various settings several times.
I am not a computer nerd or guru, but have a pretty good understanding of being able to adjust settings, enable and disable programs, etc.  
I have read many of the related posts on this forum and have tried many of the suggestions.  It appears that others are having similar problems, but some replies appear to have been simple guesses or uneducated suggestions based upon who knows what!
Pardon my ranting.
On February 10 I made 6 FT8 contacts and between February 3 and 9, had 20 contacts logged with no issues at all.  (My logging program is N3FJP' ACLog, ver 6.6).  Since 2/10 I have only been able to make 5 FT8 contacts in between the NO DECODE and COMPRESSED WATERFALL incidents that are still occurring after many attempts at adjustments and reloads as noted above.
I hope (for my sake as well as other WSJT users) that someone somewhere (Source Forge, etc.) is paying attention and is ACTUALLY working on the problem.  I am not alone as is apparent by the number of problems other Hams are reporting on this and other forums.
 
 

					


				
				
				
			

			
				

				

					
						
	
		
			
		
			

				
					
				
				
					
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I have this problem sporadically....not sure what causes it. FT8 will run along fine
for a long time and then suddenly the waterfall is compressed and there are no
decodes. Sometimes it can be fixed by rebooting the program. Although lately, I have
had to reboot the computer and restart the program to get it to work properly. It
certainly is frustrating when you are trying to make a contact and this happens :-( 
I wonder if it might be some Windows 10 process running in the background that is
causing this...

Anyway, I sure hope somebody can figure out a cure!  GL and VY 73, Lance


On 3/27/2020 19:44:20, Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io wrote:
I have tried everything!!!!!!  Even updated the drivers for the sound cards today. 
Did several re-installs of the WSJT-X program and the JTAlert program, restarted
the laptop several times.  Even RTFM and followed through the steps for setting up
the various programs..  AND I STILL HAVE NO DECODE (or occasionally intermittent
decode) AND THE DAMN WATERFALL IS STILL COMPRESSED even after changing various
settings several times.
I am not a computer nerd or guru, but have a pretty good understanding of being
able to adjust settings, enable and disable programs, etc.
I have read many of the related posts on this forum and have tried many of the
suggestions.  It appears that others are having similar problems, but some replies
appear to have been simple guesses or uneducated suggestions based upon who knows what!
Pardon my ranting.
On February 10 I made 6 FT8 contacts and between February 3 and 9, had 20 contacts
logged with no issues at all.  (My logging program is N3FJP' ACLog, ver 6.6). 
Since 2/10 I have only been able to make 5 FT8 contacts in between the NO DECODE
and COMPRESSED WATERFALL incidents that are still occurring after many attempts at
adjustments and reloads as noted above.
I hope (for my sake as well as other WSJT users) that someone somewhere (Source
Forge, etc.) is paying attention and is ACTUALLY working on the problem.  I am not
alone as is apparent by the number of problems other Hams are reporting on this and
other forums.


--
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P.O. Box 73
Frenchtown, MT   59834-0073
USA
TEL: (406) 626-5728
QTH: DN27ub
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    Lance

      I am not sure what  you mean by 'waterfall is compressed'... How
      about a screen shot..

      AL, K0VM

    

    
On 3/27/2020 3:48 PM, Lance Collister,
      W7GJ wrote:

    

    

				
					
					

					


I have this
      problem sporadically....not sure what causes it. FT8 will run
      along fine
      

      for a long time and then suddenly the waterfall is compressed and
      there are no
      

      decodes. Sometimes it can be fixed by rebooting the program.
      Although lately, I have
      

      had to reboot the computer and restart the program to get it to
      work properly. It
      

      certainly is frustrating when you are trying to make a contact and
      this happens :-( 
      

      I wonder if it might be some Windows 10 process running in the
      background that is
      

      causing this...
      

      

      Anyway, I sure hope somebody can figure out a cure!  GL and VY 73,
      Lance
      

      

      

      On 3/27/2020 19:44:20, Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io wrote:
      

      
I have tried everything!!!!!!  Even
        updated the drivers for the sound cards today. 
        

        Did several re-installs of the WSJT-X program and the JTAlert
        program, restarted
        

        the laptop several times.  Even RTFM and followed through the
        steps for setting up
        

        the various programs..  AND I STILL HAVE NO DECODE (or
        occasionally intermittent
        

        decode) AND THE DAMN WATERFALL IS STILL COMPRESSED even after
        changing various
        

        settings several times.
        

        I am not a computer nerd or guru, but have a pretty good
        understanding of being
        

        able to adjust settings, enable and disable programs, etc.
        

        I have read many of the related posts on this forum and have
        tried many of the
        

        suggestions.  It appears that others are having similar
        problems, but some replies
        

        appear to have been simple guesses or uneducated suggestions
        based upon who knows what!
        

        Pardon my ranting.
        

        On February 10 I made 6 FT8 contacts and between February 3 and
        9, had 20 contacts
        

        logged with no issues at all.  (My logging program is N3FJP'
        ACLog, ver 6.6). 
        

        Since 2/10 I have only been able to make 5 FT8 contacts in
        between the NO DECODE
        

        and COMPRESSED WATERFALL incidents that are still occurring
        after many attempts at
        

        adjustments and reloads as noted above.
        

        I hope (for my sake as well as other WSJT users) that someone
        somewhere (Source
        

        Forge, etc.) is paying attention and is ACTUALLY working on the
        problem.  I am not
        

        alone as is apparent by the number of problems other Hams are
        reporting on this and
        

        other forums.
        

        

        

      

      

      

      --
      

      Lance Collister, W7GJ(ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8,
      E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ, E6M, TX5K, KH8/W7GJ, V6M, T8GJ, VK9CGJ,
      VK9XGJ, C21GJ, CP1GJ, S79GJ, TX7MB)
      

      P.O. Box 73
      

      Frenchtown, MT   59834-0073
      

      USA
      

      TEL: (406) 626-5728
      

      QTH: DN27ub
      

      URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj
      

      Skype: lanceW7GJ
      

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      email group, or just fill in the request box at the bottom of my
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On FT8, it is like something suddenly changed the Wide Graph setting from N AVG 6
(where I usually run it, so I can see the weakest signals) to N AVG 1. All the lines
between sequences are all jammed up close together and the decoding doesn't work.

I have now gone through the list of Windows 10 PRIVACY SETTINGS and turned off almost
everything. It is especially enlightening to see all the junk that was running in the
background! Since I just use this computer for monitoring with WSJTX, the only thing
I now have running on it is SDR-Console Version 3.0.21, WSJT-X Version 2.1.2, JTALERT
Version 2.16.1 and Norton Antivirus.  At the moment, it seems to working
great...hopefully the culprit has been blocked ;-)

VY 73, Lance


On 3/27/2020 21:02:43, Al Groff via Groups.Io wrote:
Lance
I am not sure what  you mean by 'waterfall is compressed'... How about a screen shot..
AL, K0VM

On 3/27/2020 3:48 PM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote:
I have this problem sporadically....not sure what causes it. FT8 will run along fine
for a long time and then suddenly the waterfall is compressed and there are no
decodes. Sometimes it can be fixed by rebooting the program. Although lately, I have
had to reboot the computer and restart the program to get it to work properly. It
certainly is frustrating when you are trying to make a contact and this happens :-(Â
I wonder if it might be some Windows 10 process running in the background that is
causing this...

Anyway, I sure hope somebody can figure out a cure!  GL and VY 73, Lance


On 3/27/2020 19:44:20, Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io wrote:
I have tried everything!!!!!!  Even updated the drivers for the sound cards today.Â
Did several re-installs of the WSJT-X program and the JTAlert program, restarted
the laptop several times.  Even RTFM and followed through the steps for setting up
the various programs..  AND I STILL HAVE NO DECODE (or occasionally intermittent
decode) AND THE DAMN WATERFALL IS STILL COMPRESSED even after changing various
settings several times.
I am not a computer nerd or guru, but have a pretty good understanding of being
able to adjust settings, enable and disable programs, etc.
I have read many of the related posts on this forum and have tried many of the
suggestions.  It appears that others are having similar problems, but some replies
appear to have been simple guesses or uneducated suggestions based upon who knows
what!
Pardon my ranting.
On February 10 I made 6 FT8 contacts and between February 3 and 9, had 20 contacts
logged with no issues at all.  (My logging program is N3FJP' ACLog, ver 6.6).Â
Since 2/10 I have only been able to make 5 FT8 contacts in between the NO DECODE
and COMPRESSED WATERFALL incidents that are still occurring after many attempts at
adjustments and reloads as noted above.
I hope (for my sake as well as other WSJT users) that someone somewhere (Source
Forge, etc.) is paying attention and is ACTUALLY working on the problem.  I am not
alone as is apparent by the number of problems other Hams are reporting on this and
other forums.


--
Lance Collister, W7GJ(ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR,
5W0GJ, E6M, TX5K, KH8/W7GJ, V6M, T8GJ, VK9CGJ, VK9XGJ, C21GJ, CP1GJ, S79GJ, TX7MB)
P.O. Box 73
Frenchtown, MT   59834-0073
USA
TEL: (406) 626-5728
QTH: DN27ub
URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj
Skype: lanceW7GJ
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P.O. Box 73
Frenchtown, MT   59834-0073
USA
TEL: (406) 626-5728
QTH: DN27ub
URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj
Skype: lanceW7GJ
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Hi Joe,

Are you sure you are NOT in FT4 mode by accident?

I Did that once in the wee hours of the morning & half asleep...

Mode on bottom line (below the wsjt-x clock) should be blue & say FT8!  

Because ft4 runs in only 7.5 seconds per half cycle, it takes on that 'compressed' look.

Hope this helps.



73 - John - N7GHZ

				
					
					

					



On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 12:44 PM Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io <joefirevfw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have tried everything!!!!!!  Even updated the drivers for the sound cards today.  Did several re-installs of the WSJT-X program and the JTAlert program, restarted the laptop several times.  Even RTFM and followed through the steps for setting up the various programs..  AND I STILL HAVE NO DECODE (or occasionally intermittent decode) AND THE DAMN WATERFALL IS STILL COMPRESSED even after changing various settings several times.
I am not a computer nerd or guru, but have a pretty good understanding of being able to adjust settings, enable and disable programs, etc.  
I have read many of the related posts on this forum and have tried many of the suggestions.  It appears that others are having similar problems, but some replies appear to have been simple guesses or uneducated suggestions based upon who knows what!
Pardon my ranting.
On February 10 I made 6 FT8 contacts and between February 3 and 9, had 20 contacts logged with no issues at all.  (My logging program is N3FJP' ACLog, ver 6.6).  Since 2/10 I have only been able to make 5 FT8 contacts in between the NO DECODE and COMPRESSED WATERFALL incidents that are still occurring after many attempts at adjustments and reloads as noted above.
I hope (for my sake as well as other WSJT users) that someone somewhere (Source Forge, etc.) is paying attention and is ACTUALLY working on the problem.  I am not alone as is apparent by the number of problems other Hams are reporting on this and other forums.




					


				
				
				
			

			
			

				
	

	

	
	

		
			

				
					

				
				

					

						
						
					

				

			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
				

	



			
		
			
				
	

		
			
			

			
			
			

				

					


						
							
								
	
		
			
		
		
  
	
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I will try to address the latest remarks/suggestions.
     Time.is:  correct time shown, Mienburg working fine
      Audio stuff (speakers, microphone, sound cards) excluded from virus scanning
      WSJT-X and JTAlert both excluded from virus scanning
      Definitely on FT8, not "accidentally" switched to FT4, Also, when switching to other modes, am seeing the same compressed waterfall situation.
      Have tried various " N-avg" settings and get the same result, compressed waterfall and no decode.
      As previously stated by me, every time I attempted different settings, downloaded new drivers, etc., etc., I always restarted the programs AND the computer.

Regarding "turning off" stuff running in the background on the computer;  where can one get a list of what can and should not be turned off?  Obviously nothing from Microsoft would be worth looking at because they would not want "their" stuff turned off.  In Task Manager, there is a boat load of running background processes.  How does one know what is safe to turn off or disable?  I would not hesitate to turn things off if I knew it wouldn't stop my computer from working.

73s
Joe Wallace, W7RNX

				
				
				
			

			
			

				
	

	

	
	

		
			

				
					

				
				

					

						
						
					

				

			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
				

	



			
		
			
				
	

		
			
			

			
			
			

				

					


						
							
								
	
		
			
		
		
  
	
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Joe,  Try this, make either screen shots or write down all settings in WSJT-X.  Close WSJT-X.
Go here and delete this file, C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Local\WSJT-X\WSJT-X.ini
This .ini is your configuration settings.  You will loose all settings.
Install ver 2.1.2 into here, C:\K1JT\wsjtx2.1.2  where K1JT is a folder and wsjtx2.1.2 is also a folder.
Create the K1JT folder on the root drive then create the wsjtx2.1.2 folder in the K1JT folder.
Install ver 2.1.2 into the wsjtx2.1.2 folder.  The install will create a new shortcut icon on the desktop
that should point to C:\K1JT\wsjtx2.1.2\wsjtx\bin\wsjtx.exe
Run WSJT-X via this shortcut, redo all settings, report back with findings.

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 6:39 PM Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io <joefirevfw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I will try to address the latest remarks/suggestions.
     Time.is:  correct time shown, Mienburg working fine
      Audio stuff (speakers, microphone, sound cards) excluded from virus scanning
      WSJT-X and JTAlert both excluded from virus scanning
      Definitely on FT8, not "accidentally" switched to FT4, Also, when switching to other modes, am seeing the same compressed waterfall situation.
      Have tried various " N-avg" settings and get the same result, compressed waterfall and no decode.
      As previously stated by me, every time I attempted different settings, downloaded new drivers, etc., etc., I always restarted the programs AND the computer.

Regarding "turning off" stuff running in the background on the computer;  where can one get a list of what can and should not be turned off?  Obviously nothing from Microsoft would be worth looking at because they would not want "their" stuff turned off.  In Task Manager, there is a boat load of running background processes.  How does one know what is safe to turn off or disable?  I would not hesitate to turn things off if I knew it wouldn't stop my computer from working.

73s
Joe Wallace, W7RNX




					


				
				
				
			

			
			

				
	

	

	
	

		
			

				
					

				
				

					

						
						
					

				

			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
				

	



			
		
			
				
	

		
			
			

			
			
			

				

					


						
							
								
	
		
			
		
		
  
	
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Hi Joe.
Cant help with the ‘main’ theme of your enquiry as I am not seeing anything like it.
But, for looking at what starts and runs from start I use CCleaner FREE.
https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/download?source=cpc&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgpLxk-u76AIVCbLtCh11Nw0zEAAYASABEgJIX_D_BwE
 
It has options for disabling software at start-up in various groups and works a treat.
Regards – Phil (G0DOR)
 
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From: Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io
Sent: 27 March 2020 22:40
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] No decode, waterfall compressed
 
I will try to address the latest remarks/suggestions.
     Time.is:  correct time shown, Mienburg working fine
      Audio stuff (speakers, microphone, sound cards) excluded from virus scanning
      WSJT-X and JTAlert both excluded from virus scanning
      Definitely on FT8, not "accidentally" switched to FT4, Also, when switching to other modes, am seeing the same compressed waterfall situation.
      Have tried various " N-avg" settings and get the same result, compressed waterfall and no decode.
      As previously stated by me, every time I attempted different settings, downloaded new drivers, etc., etc., I always restarted the programs AND the computer.

Regarding "turning off" stuff running in the background on the computer;  where can one get a list of what can and should not be turned off?  Obviously nothing from Microsoft would be worth looking at because they would not want "their" stuff turned off.  In Task Manager, there is a boat load of running background processes.  How does one know what is safe to turn off or disable?  I would not hesitate to turn things off if I knew it wouldn't stop my computer from working.

73s
Joe Wallace, W7RNX 
 

					


				
				
				
			

			
			

				
	

	

	
	

		
			

				
					

				
				

					

						
						
					

				

			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
				

	



			
		
			
				
	

		
			
			

			
			
			

				

					


						
							
								
	
		
			
		
		
  
	
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Hi Lance,

I had/have a similar problem with decodes. Look at the attached screen shot to see if yours looks like mine. When my waterfall looks like the signals at the top, I get no decodes. When my waterfall looks like the signals at the bottom, I get good decodes.

I don't have a fix, but I do have a workaround. I have no idea why this works, but it does. If I go to Control Panel - Sound - Recording  and single click on the Microphone for the audio device I use for WSJT-X (USB Audio Codec in my case), then my traces on the waterfall become "focused" and I get good decodes. I don't have to change anything in the Audio Properties. Just having the window open fixes my problem. The screenshot shows my waterfall without the sound window open and then with the sound window open.

I am using Windows 10 Home with updates turned ON and I am using the current version of WSJT-X. I do not use JTAlert. In my case, audio from my Icom IC-7300 goes into my laptop using the USB cable.

Good Luck.

Steve KS3K




				
				
				
			

			
			

				
	

	

	
	

		
			

				
					

				
				

					

						
						
					

				

			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
				

	



			
		
			
				
	

		
			
			

			
			
			

				

					


						
							
								
	
		
			
		
		
  
	
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Hi Steve,
The waterfall looks like your audio sampling rate goes wild or fussy. I could happen in A/D converter in the rig of in Windows for some reason. Clicking the audio tab re-starts the USB audio path, I assume. Just for check have you selected in Windows 16 bits sampling at 64 k (DVD quality)? 
73, Reino oh3mA
 


				
				
				
			

			
			

				
	

	

	
	

		
			

				
					

				
				

					

						
						
					

				

			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
				

	



			
		
			
				
	

		
			
			

			
			
			

				

					


						
							
								
	
		
			
		
		
  
	
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On 3/27/2020 10:53 PM, Reino Talarmo wrote:
The waterfall looks like your audio sampling rate goes wild or fussy.
Lance -- WSJT-X works with 48kHz 16-bit. Check the audio interface you're using to make sure that is what is set. Something might have changed it.

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On 3/27/2020 10:53 PM, Reino Talarmo wrote:
The waterfall looks like your audio sampling rate goes wild or fussy.
Lance -- WSJT-X works with 48kHz 16-bit. Check the audio interface you're using to make sure that is what is set. Something might have changed it.
Thanks Jim, my bad.
It is interesting that the change is in the middle of 15 s period. The time compression indicates that there are also missing audio frames. Is it possible that USB link is intermittent, bad? On the other hand the fail mode looks stable.
73, Reino oh3mA

				
				
				
			

			
			

				
	

	

	
	

		
			

				
					

				
				

					

						
						
					

				

			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
				

	



			
		
	

	
	
	
	


	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	
	

		
		
		
		
	



	

		
		
		
		
		
		
	

	

	

		

			
	
		

			

				

					
						
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