Locked WSJT-X No Decode


wa5tku@...
 

Something has happened to my WSJT-X setup, I no longer get Decodes.  The Waterfall has a large number of FT8 signals displayed.  The Decode button is Green,  The Audio paths have not changed.  The TX path seems to work as I hear tones with the TX audio monitor on the radio turned on.  I am running Windows 10 and just installed WSJT-X v2.1.2.  The problem started before I did that upgrade but hoped maybe it would fix the problem.  Not sure where to look next, need help?

Wes
WA5TKU


Jim Bacher - WB8VSU
 

When that happens the first thing to do is to check your computers time by going to :  https://time.is

Jim Bacher, WB8VSU 
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On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:33 AM, wa5tku@...
<wa5tku@...> wrote:

Something has happened to my WSJT-X setup, I no longer get Decodes.  The Waterfall has a large number of FT8 signals displayed.  The Decode button is Green,  The Audio paths have not changed.  The TX path seems to work as I hear tones with the TX audio monitor on the radio turned on.  I am running Windows 10 and just installed WSJT-X v2.1.2.  The problem started before I did that upgrade but hoped maybe it would fix the problem.  Not sure where to look next, need help?

Wes
WA5TKU


wa5tku@...
 

The time was off 5+ seconds, for some reason my clock sync software was turned off.  Been running WSJT software since 2006 and that is the first time I had the problem.

Thanks and 73,

Wes
WA5TKU


Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

I've found that Windows time system is not adequately accurate nor reliable enough for WSJT-X and other time demanding modes.  There are several time applications that will keep your computer time accurate.    MEINBERG is one I use with great success and, best of all,  it is FREE.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/9/2020 3:59 PM, wa5tku@... wrote:

The time was off 5+ seconds, for some reason my clock sync software was turned off.  Been running WSJT software since 2006 and that is the first time I had the problem.

Thanks and 73,

Wes
WA5TKU

    


Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

Check your computer clock with some reference.   While Windows does provide a time service, I've found it is not adequately accurate for WSJT-X and FT-8 modes.   I personally use a free software Meinberg to keep the computer time in sync with the rest of the world.  My decode DT values are most always >0.5 seconds.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/9/2020 10:33 AM, wa5tku@... wrote:

Something has happened to my WSJT-X setup, I no longer get Decodes.  The Waterfall has a large number of FT8 signals displayed.  The Decode button is Green,  The Audio paths have not changed.  The TX path seems to work as I hear tones with the TX audio monitor on the radio turned on.  I am running Windows 10 and just installed WSJT-X v2.1.2.  The problem started before I did that upgrade but hoped maybe it would fix the problem.  Not sure where to look next, need help?

Wes
WA5TKU



    


Gilbert Baron
 

I use Dimension 4 which is basically the same function. The timeis web site will tell you how close you are. I just checked and it was within 33 milliseconds. Seldom more than 40 milliseconds off.

 

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From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 14:10
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] WSJT-X No Decode

 

Check your computer clock with some reference.   While Windows does provide a time service, I've found it is not adequately accurate for WSJT-X and FT-8 modes.   I personally use a free software Meinberg to keep the computer time in sync with the rest of the world.  My decode DT values are most always >0.5 seconds.

73

Bob, K4TAX

 

On 1/9/2020 10:33 AM, wa5tku@... wrote:

Something has happened to my WSJT-X setup, I no longer get Decodes.  The Waterfall has a large number of FT8 signals displayed.  The Decode button is Green,  The Audio paths have not changed.  The TX path seems to work as I hear tones with the TX audio monitor on the radio turned on.  I am running Windows 10 and just installed WSJT-X v2.1.2.  The problem started before I did that upgrade but hoped maybe it would fix the problem.  Not sure where to look next, need help?

Wes
WA5TKU



 

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neil_zampella <neilz@...>
 

You can use the website Time.IS which will tell you whether or not your computer is correct.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 1/10/2020 3:10 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:

Check your computer clock with some reference.   While Windows does provide a time service, I've found it is not adequately accurate for WSJT-X and FT-8 modes.   I personally use a free software Meinberg to keep the computer time in sync with the rest of the world.  My decode DT values are most always >0.5 seconds.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/9/2020 10:33 AM, wa5tku@... wrote:

Something has happened to my WSJT-X setup, I no longer get Decodes.  The Waterfall has a large number of FT8 signals displayed.  The Decode button is Green,  The Audio paths have not changed.  The TX path seems to work as I hear tones with the TX audio monitor on the radio turned on.  I am running Windows 10 and just installed WSJT-X v2.1.2.  The problem started before I did that upgrade but hoped maybe it would fix the problem.  Not sure where to look next, need help?

Wes
WA5TKU




    


KI0KK - Greg Wolfe
 

Checked the PC time and it is only 0.2 sec ahead.


On 1/10/2020 5:20 PM, neil_zampella wrote:

You can use the website Time.IS which will tell you whether or not your computer is correct.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 1/10/2020 3:10 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:

Check your computer clock with some reference.   While Windows does provide a time service, I've found it is not adequately accurate for WSJT-X and FT-8 modes.   I personally use a free software Meinberg to keep the computer time in sync with the rest of the world.  My decode DT values are most always >0.5 seconds.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/9/2020 10:33 AM, wa5tku@... wrote:

Something has happened to my WSJT-X setup, I no longer get Decodes.  The Waterfall has a large number of FT8 signals displayed.  The Decode button is Green,  The Audio paths have not changed.  The TX path seems to work as I hear tones with the TX audio monitor on the radio turned on.  I am running Windows 10 and just installed WSJT-X v2.1.2.  The problem started before I did that upgrade but hoped maybe it would fix the problem.  Not sure where to look next, need help?

Wes
WA5TKU





    


Matt Gumbley
 

This is such a common problem... I wonder whether the maintainers of https://time.is would permit WSJT-X to make use of their API, so that on startup, and periodically thereafter, WSJT-X could show you how close to ‘correct’ time you are?


 Time.is is made for humans. Automatic refresh and any usage from within scripts and apps is forbidden. If you need time synchronization for your app, please contact us about our API.”

I’m thinking of just notifying you of the time difference on startup, not automatically synchronising.. 

The alternative could be to embed an NTP client in WSJT-X (and configuring a set of common ‘pool’ servers). This would be much more involved; time.is is likely to have a relatively straightforward REST API, versus the complexity of the NTP protocol.

73 Matt M0CUV

Matthew J. Gumbley

On 10 Jan 2020, at 23:21, neil_zampella <neilz@...> wrote:



You can use the website Time.IS which will tell you whether or not your computer is correct.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 1/10/2020 3:10 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:

Check your computer clock with some reference.   While Windows does provide a time service, I've found it is not adequately accurate for WSJT-X and FT-8 modes.   I personally use a free software Meinberg to keep the computer time in sync with the rest of the world.  My decode DT values are most always >0.5 seconds.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/9/2020 10:33 AM, wa5tku@... wrote:

Something has happened to my WSJT-X setup, I no longer get Decodes.  The Waterfall has a large number of FT8 signals displayed.  The Decode button is Green,  The Audio paths have not changed.  The TX path seems to work as I hear tones with the TX audio monitor on the radio turned on.  I am running Windows 10 and just installed WSJT-X v2.1.2.  The problem started before I did that upgrade but hoped maybe it would fix the problem.  Not sure where to look next, need help?

Wes
WA5TKU




    


Gilbert Baron
 

I do not see how this would help much. If at start timeis tells you that you are too far off you still have to fix it. I have used dimension 4 and cannot remember the last time any of 3 computers were off by more than 50 milliseconds. If you are a user of something as complex as WSJTX then it seems you are more than competent to be sure that your time is correct. I also do mot want more than one time sync app trying to fight with another which could happen.

 

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From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of Matt Gumbley
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 04:22
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] WSJT-X No Decode

 

This is such a common problem... I wonder whether the maintainers of https://time.is would permit WSJT-X to make use of their API, so that on startup, and periodically thereafter, WSJT-X could show you how close to ‘correct’ time you are?

 

 

 Time.is is made for humans. Automatic refresh and any usage from within scripts and apps is forbidden. If you need time synchronization for your app, please contact us about our API.”



I’m thinking of just notifying you of the time difference on startup, not automatically synchronising.. 



The alternative could be to embed an NTP client in WSJT-X (and configuring a set of common ‘pool’ servers). This would be much more involved; time.is is likely to have a relatively straightforward REST API, versus the complexity of the NTP protocol.



73 Matt M0CUV

 

Matthew J. Gumbley



On 10 Jan 2020, at 23:21, neil_zampella <neilz@...> wrote:



You can use the website Time.IS which will tell you whether or not your computer is correct.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 1/10/2020 3:10 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:

Check your computer clock with some reference.   While Windows does provide a time service, I've found it is not adequately accurate for WSJT-X and FT-8 modes.   I personally use a free software Meinberg to keep the computer time in sync with the rest of the world.  My decode DT values are most always >0.5 seconds.

73

Bob, K4TAX

 

On 1/9/2020 10:33 AM, wa5tku@... wrote:

Something has happened to my WSJT-X setup, I no longer get Decodes.  The Waterfall has a large number of FT8 signals displayed.  The Decode button is Green,  The Audio paths have not changed.  The TX path seems to work as I hear tones with the TX audio monitor on the radio turned on.  I am running Windows 10 and just installed WSJT-X v2.1.2.  The problem started before I did that upgrade but hoped maybe it would fix the problem.  Not sure where to look next, need help?

Wes
WA5TKU





 


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