Locked Decoding not working #AudioIssues


dvpoplewski
 

I upgraded my computer to windows 10 and now I can't decode any FT8 signals. The receive status bar is green and at 60db, but still no decoding on any band. Can someone help with suggestions or windows 10 audio settings. I'm using an Icom 7610 that worked perfectly when running windows 7.

David KC8IV


Bill Somerville
 

On 22/12/2019 22:28, dvpoplewski wrote:
I upgraded my computer to windows 10 and now I can't decode any FT8 signals. The receive status bar is green and at 60db, but still no decoding on any band. Can someone help with suggestions or windows 10 audio settings. I'm using an Icom 7610 that worked perfectly when running windows 7.

David KC8IV
Hi David,

have you done anything to ensure your PC is synchronized to UTC?

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Phil Davidson
 

Any ‘signals’ on the waterfall?

If not then its ‘likely’ a sound card selection issue.

W10 is NOT intuitive. You might have to juggle the inputs eg.  I select the ‘webcam/micrphone’ input in Sound Control even though no webcam exists but is ‘listed’ as a valid input in the W10 drop down ‘sounds’ menu.

 

If yes then its ‘likely’ a timing issue

 

Regards – Phil (G0DOR)

 

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From: dvpoplewski
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Subject: [WSJTX] Decoding not working #audio_issues

 

I upgraded my computer to windows 10 and now I can't decode any FT8 signals. The receive status bar is green and at 60db, but still no decoding on any band. Can someone help with suggestions or windows 10 audio settings. I'm using an Icom 7610 that worked perfectly when running windows 7.

David KC8IV

 


Dave Garber <ve3wej@...>
 

can you try other modes, to see if they decode ok.   if they do, then I would suggest timing is off, and you should look into nettime or dimension to run at windows startup, to keep you clock correct....


Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 7:50 AM Phil Davidson <philcdav1948@...> wrote:

Any ‘signals’ on the waterfall?

If not then its ‘likely’ a sound card selection issue.

W10 is NOT intuitive. You might have to juggle the inputs eg.  I select the ‘webcam/micrphone’ input in Sound Control even though no webcam exists but is ‘listed’ as a valid input in the W10 drop down ‘sounds’ menu.

 

If yes then its ‘likely’ a timing issue

 

Regards – Phil (G0DOR)

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: dvpoplewski
Sent: 22 December 2019 22:28
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] Decoding not working #audio_issues

 

I upgraded my computer to windows 10 and now I can't decode any FT8 signals. The receive status bar is green and at 60db, but still no decoding on any band. Can someone help with suggestions or windows 10 audio settings. I'm using an Icom 7610 that worked perfectly when running windows 7.

David KC8IV

 

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Gilbert Baron
 

And you can check your clock with time.is . If it is within 500 MS then the timing is not your peoblem.

 

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can you try other modes, to see if they decode ok.   if they do, then I would suggest timing is off, and you should look into nettime or dimension to run at windows startup, to keep you clock correct....

 

 

Dave Garber

VE3WEJ / VE3IE

 

 

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 7:50 AM Phil Davidson <philcdav1948@...> wrote:

Any ‘signals’ on the waterfall?

If not then its ‘likely’ a sound card selection issue.

W10 is NOT intuitive. You might have to juggle the inputs eg.  I select the ‘webcam/micrphone’ input in Sound Control even though no webcam exists but is ‘listed’ as a valid input in the W10 drop down ‘sounds’ menu.

 

If yes then its ‘likely’ a timing issue

 

Regards – Phil (G0DOR)

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: dvpoplewski
Sent: 22 December 2019 22:28
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Subject: [WSJTX] Decoding not working #audio_issues

 

I upgraded my computer to windows 10 and now I can't decode any FT8 signals. The receive status bar is green and at 60db, but still no decoding on any band. Can someone help with suggestions or windows 10 audio settings. I'm using an Icom 7610 that worked perfectly when running windows 7.

David KC8IV

 

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WU9D <mike@...>
 

I found that although WSJT-X reports 60 db and is green I am having problems with decoding. I turned down the audio on the RIGblaster Blue configuration. WSJT-X shows about 45 db now and decoding seems ok. If I turn down the audio any more I turn it off altogether. WSJT-X is very sensitive.


Dave Garber <ve3wej@...>
 

not sure how you are grabbing the audio from the ts2000...    speaker jack?  headphone jack?   why not acc2

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 11:17 AM WU9D <mike@...> wrote:
I found that although WSJT-X reports 60 db and is green I am having problems with decoding. I turned down the audio on the RIGblaster Blue configuration. WSJT-X shows about 45 db now and decoding seems ok. If I turn down the audio any more I turn it off altogether. WSJT-X is very sensitive.



WU9D <mike@...>
 

Because the Rigblaster Blue does not use ACC. It does everything through the microphone connection. It’s a Bluetooth device, not an analog device. 


On Mar 13, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Dave Garber via groups.io <ve3wej@...> wrote:


not sure how you are grabbing the audio from the ts2000...    speaker jack?  headphone jack?   why not acc2

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 11:17 AM WU9D <mike@...> wrote:
I found that although WSJT-X reports 60 db and is green I am having problems with decoding. I turned down the audio on the RIGblaster Blue configuration. WSJT-X shows about 45 db now and decoding seems ok. If I turn down the audio any more I turn it off altogether. WSJT-X is very sensitive.






Don Roden
 

It gets it's audio from the earphone jack ( easiest ) or it can be fed via the ACC jack which is a fixed output ( better )  and the AF control doesn't change the level out of the ACC jack.

Don W4DNR


On 2021-03-13 18:03, WU9D wrote:

Because the Rigblaster Blue does not use ACC. It does everything through the microphone connection. It's a Bluetooth device, not an analog device. 

 

On Mar 13, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Dave Garber via groups.io <ve3wej@...> wrote:

not sure how you are grabbing the audio from the ts2000...    speaker jack?  headphone jack?   why not acc2
 
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 11:17 AM WU9D <mike@...> wrote:
I found that although WSJT-X reports 60 db and is green I am having problems with decoding. I turned down the audio on the RIGblaster Blue configuration. WSJT-X shows about 45 db now and decoding seems ok. If I turn down the audio any more I turn it off altogether. WSJT-X is very sensitive.










neil_zampella <neilz@...>
 

The problem with that is Bluetooth lag ... that can cause issues with decodes.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 3/13/2021 6:03 PM, WU9D wrote:

Because the Rigblaster Blue does not use ACC. It does everything through the microphone connection. It’s a Bluetooth device, not an analog device. 


On Mar 13, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Dave Garber via groups.io <ve3wej@...> wrote:


not sure how you are grabbing the audio from the ts2000...    speaker jack?  headphone jack?   why not acc2

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 11:17 AM WU9D <mike@...> wrote:
I found that although WSJT-X reports 60 db and is green I am having problems with decoding. I turned down the audio on the RIGblaster Blue configuration. WSJT-X shows about 45 db now and decoding seems ok. If I turn down the audio any more I turn it off altogether. WSJT-X is very sensitive.









Jim Brown
 

On 3/13/2021 8:46 PM, neil_zampella wrote:
The problem with that is Bluetooth lag ... that can cause issues with decodes.
What you're talking about is "latency" --the time it takes for A/D and D/A conversions as well as other signal processing that is done in the digital domain. This is present in ALL digital systems, and can't be corrected. (It would require a time machine.) :)

There are several BlueTooth standards. One that has less distance capability has lower latency than the others, but it's still not low enough for a CW op, who needs to monitor his own sending.

73, Jim K9YC