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Locked Re: V2.4.0-rc2 TX mode & frequency #WSJTX_config

Charly DF5VAE
 

Hello,
did someone else notice that the 6m frequenvy/mode q65 setup seems to change after a reboot.

I deleted the default 6m q65 frequency (50.305) to be sure my observation can be reproduced.

Inserted new mode (q65) and frequency 50.305 and saved setup.
!st call up works as itz should be.

After complete reboot the line seems unchanged but 50.305 is not exclusive for q65 anymore and appears as option for other WSJTx modes on 6m.
73,
Charly DF5VAE


Locked Re: Not receiving anything... #GeneralGroupInfo

ve3ki
 

Your Wide Graph does not show any signals, only harmonics of the 60 Hz AC frequency. This looks like a sound card that is not connected to any signal source. Check whether the wrong sound card input has been selected in the WSJT-X settings, and/or whether the hardware connection between the radio and the sound card is good.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 09:52 AM, Ron Schunk wrote:
Here we go...last night I had a good list of stations...this morning I started things up again and this is what I got..Notice the band condition box on QRZ.com shows 'good' on 80-40m..is the graph showing NO activity??? I find that hard to believe...
 

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:52 PM Ron Schunk via groups.io <ron051798=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions...I have Meinberg working and it is doing a better job than D4 or Net Time...and as for the USB yep it is set to that....so Im still stuck....

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On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 5:26 PM Karl Beckman <wa8nvw@...> wrote:
I hate to suggest something at such a low level, but I've done it more than once myself:  If you are testing on 40, 60, 75, or 160M, make sure your rig is set to UPPER sideband. That's one thing you can't read on the waterfall.  The worldwide standard for analog voice on ham bands below 9 MHz is LSB, but WJST is always upper..
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JP Tucson, AZ
 

You are welcome Ken,  glad I could help with the suggestion.


73 - John - N7GHZ




On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:06 AM Ken via groups.io <w8ken=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
TU Bill and John.
I set up new config files as John suggested.
Works like a charm. Thank you for your comments.

Ken - W8KEN

On 3/16/2021 6:53 PM, Ken via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Bill & John,
I think I will try John’s approach first.
It sounds simpler. I know how to create another config file.

W8KEN - Ken

On Mar 16, 2021, at 18:45, JP Tucson, AZ <samcat88az@...> wrote:


Hi Ken,

Instead of 2 instances, you can create 2  "CONFIGS"; one setup for each radio & they will both use the same log file.  

73 - John - N7GHZ

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 3:33 PM Ken via groups.io <w8ken=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have created two instances of WSJT-X, one configured for my K3 and one configured for my IC-7610 Radio.
Both instances work.

Does anyone know how to point configure both Instances to use the same ADI Log file.
I would like to be able to switch between RIGs but maintain a common ADI file so stations worked on either radio will still show up as worked so I do not duplicate previous QSO's.

Ken - W8KEN








    





Locked Re: #BugReport RC2 issue with sending 73 #IssueReport

Steve m0mvb
 

Problem has been resolved in RC 3
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Locked Re: #JT4 Worrying comment for beacon users #JT4

Andy Talbot
 

Excellent news
All sorted
SRI for raising the point


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Locked Re: Time Sync Program. #Timesync

Derek Brown
 

Hi All,

I have tried to get Meinberg to work, but have failed many times, cannot remember what the problem was, but if anyone has an "Idiots" guide to installing and setting up Meinberg, I would appreciate a copy to have another go at it, currently using TimeSync which is working fine. 

73 Derek G8ECI 

On Wednesday, 17 March 2021, 13:22:37 GMT, Ria, N2RJ <rjairam@...> wrote:


Meinberg avoids sudden shifts in the clock. It’s also set and forget, completely unobtrusive. This is why I prefer it over nettime. 

Ria
N2RJ 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:12 AM Jim Brown <k9yc@...> wrote:
On 3/16/2021 3:48 PM, Bob Lewis wrote:
> The Meinburg monitoring service only works with Meinburg NTP so both
> must be installed and the windows time service (or any other time
> service like D4) must be disabled.

As long as your computer has internet, NetTime is Sooo much simpler.

http://www.timesynctool.com/

73, Jim K9YC







Locked Re: Not receiving anything... #GeneralGroupInfo

JP Tucson, AZ
 

Ron,

Check your RADIO MODE & make sure you are in UPPER sideband.

I see you are on 40M...
This is a common issue & modern radios auto switch to LSB on bands below 10 MHz.



73 - John - N7GHZ

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:52 AM Ron Schunk <ron051798@...> wrote:
Here we go...last night I had a good list of stations...this morning I started things up again and this is what I got..Notice the band condition box on QRZ.com shows 'good' on 80-40m..is the graph showing NO activity??? I find that hard to believe...

Screenshot (1).png

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:52 PM Ron Schunk via groups.io <ron051798=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions...I have Meinberg working and it is doing a better job than D4 or Net Time...and as for the USB yep it is set to that....so Im still stuck....

Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 5:26 PM Karl Beckman <wa8nvw@...> wrote:
I hate to suggest something at such a low level, but I've done it more than once myself:  If you are testing on 40, 60, 75, or 160M, make sure your rig is set to UPPER sideband. That's one thing you can't read on the waterfall.  The worldwide standard for analog voice on ham bands below 9 MHz is LSB, but WJST is always upper..
--
Karl  WA8NVW  OH
WA8NVW@...
in WSJTX@groups.io









Ken
 

TU Bill and John.
I set up new config files as John suggested.
Works like a charm. Thank you for your comments.

Ken - W8KEN

On 3/16/2021 6:53 PM, Ken via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Bill & John,
I think I will try John’s approach first.
It sounds simpler. I know how to create another config file.

W8KEN - Ken

On Mar 16, 2021, at 18:45, JP Tucson, AZ <samcat88az@...> wrote:


Hi Ken,

Instead of 2 instances, you can create 2  "CONFIGS"; one setup for each radio & they will both use the same log file.  

73 - John - N7GHZ

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 3:33 PM Ken via groups.io <w8ken=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have created two instances of WSJT-X, one configured for my K3 and one configured for my IC-7610 Radio.
Both instances work.

Does anyone know how to point configure both Instances to use the same ADI Log file.
I would like to be able to switch between RIGs but maintain a common ADI file so stations worked on either radio will still show up as worked so I do not duplicate previous QSO's.

Ken - W8KEN











Locked Re: Why you should use split on FT8 #QSO_practices #FT8

Sam Birnbaum
 

 Hi,

First of all “SPLIT” within this context means that WSJT-X will move your TX offset so that you are transmitting within the sweet spot (center) of the band pass. It has nothing to do with you picking another TX offset. As to transmitting on the same offset as the station calling CQ, there is nothing wrong with that as that is the clear offset that the calling station picked. What you should NOT do is continue using that offset when either you complete the QSO or abandon that attempt.

As to the argument that you are causing QRM, well, for one you could be causing QRM on the offset you picked because you may not be hearing all the transmissions out there. There is a higher probability that either WSJT-X would cancel your attempt if at the calling station WSJT-X decodes a stronger signal at the same offset or another signal at a different offset and answer them. If the offset if far enough away from yours, you will end up tail ending.

73,

Sam W2JDB



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lederer <w8lvn.9@...>
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Mar 17, 2021 9:48 am
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Why you should use split on FT8 #QSO_practices #FT8

All:

I second this emphatically.

Please use split: set that "hold tx frequency" and try to transmit on as clear a frequency as possible.

w8lvn

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 8:22 AM Tony Collett via groups.io <tony.nbs=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
For those that insist on calling directly on top of someone's frequency instead of calling split on a separate frequency 
And for those that insist on remaining on somebody else's frequency after the QSO has completed......
This is what I observed last night on 80m (sorry it includes real calls).

225615 -21 0.3 2676 ~ CQ VU2DED ML88  India
225631 Tx 2551 ~ VU2DED G4NBS JO02
225645 -20 0.3 2676 ~ SQ8OAU VU2DED -14
225700 17 -0.2 2676 ~ VU2DED SQ8OAU R-13
225730 16 -0.2 2675 ~ VU2DED SQ8OAU 73
225745 0 0.1 2673 ~ SQ8OAU 9A4ZM JN64
225800 -12 0.5 2676 ~ VU2DED DO4MTB JO41
225815 -2 0.1 2672 ~ SQ8OAU 9A4ZM JN64

I doubt if I would have made the QSO as it was in/out with QSB but no chance of seeing the VU again once the third party decided he wanted to use the same frequency!

PLEASE USE SPLIT!!!

73
Tony G4NBS




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Locked Re: #JT4 Worrying comment for beacon users #JT4

Mike Lavelle K6ML
 

Joe & Andy,

Sorry, that was my mistake.   I mixed up ISCAT (which is unfortunately being deleted... it’s still being used for microwave aircraft scatter) with JT4 (which is alive and well).    In the last part quoted, I was not writing that JT64 was retired, just QRA64 (the parens only applied to QRA64).  The discussion after the ellipsis was about which modes used hard keying vs Gaussian keying.

Mike K6ML

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------ Original Message ------

From: Joe
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Sent: March 17, 2021 at 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] #JT4 Worrying comment for beacon users

Hi Andy,

You say someone told you

"the earlier JT4 (which has unfortunately been declared 'obsolete' and removed from the latest release candidate), JT65 and QRA64 (also removed..."

... but you don't identify the source.  Certainly the comment did not come from the WSJT Development Team.  We have no plan to retire either JT4 or JT65.

While I think of it: The wider Q65 submodes work very well on 10 GHz rainscatter.  An example is included in the sample files downloadable from the WSJT-X Help menu.

  -- 73, Joe, K1JT


Locked Re: Not receiving anything... #GeneralGroupInfo

Ron Schunk <ron051798@...>
 

Here we go...last night I had a good list of stations...this morning I started things up again and this is what I got..Notice the band condition box on QRZ.com shows 'good' on 80-40m..is the graph showing NO activity??? I find that hard to believe...

Screenshot (1).png


On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:52 PM Ron Schunk via groups.io <ron051798=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions...I have Meinberg working and it is doing a better job than D4 or Net Time...and as for the USB yep it is set to that....so Im still stuck....

Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 5:26 PM Karl Beckman <wa8nvw@...> wrote:
I hate to suggest something at such a low level, but I've done it more than once myself:  If you are testing on 40, 60, 75, or 160M, make sure your rig is set to UPPER sideband. That's one thing you can't read on the waterfall.  The worldwide standard for analog voice on ham bands below 9 MHz is LSB, but WJST is always upper..
--
Karl  WA8NVW  OH
WA8NVW@...
in WSJTX@groups.io






Locked Re: Why you should use split on FT8 #QSO_practices #FT8

Bill Lederer
 

All:

I second this emphatically.

Please use split: set that "hold tx frequency" and try to transmit on as clear a frequency as possible.

w8lvn

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 8:22 AM Tony Collett via groups.io <tony.nbs=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
For those that insist on calling directly on top of someone's frequency instead of calling split on a separate frequency 
And for those that insist on remaining on somebody else's frequency after the QSO has completed......
This is what I observed last night on 80m (sorry it includes real calls).

225615 -21 0.3 2676 ~ CQ VU2DED ML88  India

225631 Tx 2551 ~ VU2DED G4NBS JO02

225645 -20 0.3 2676 ~ SQ8OAU VU2DED -14

225700 17 -0.2 2676 ~ VU2DED SQ8OAU R-13

225730 16 -0.2 2675 ~ VU2DED SQ8OAU 73

225745 0 0.1 2673 ~ SQ8OAU 9A4ZM JN64

225800 -12 0.5 2676 ~ VU2DED DO4MTB JO41

225815 -2 0.1 2672 ~ SQ8OAU 9A4ZM JN64

I doubt if I would have made the QSO as it was in/out with QSB but no chance of seeing the VU again once the third party decided he wanted to use the same frequency!

PLEASE USE SPLIT!!!

73
Tony G4NBS




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--w8lvn--


Locked Re: #JT4 Worrying comment for beacon users #JT4

Joe
 

Hi Andy,

You say someone told you

"the earlier JT4 (which has unfortunately been declared 'obsolete' and removed from the latest release candidate), JT65 and QRA64 (also removed..."

... but you don't identify the source.  Certainly the comment did not come from the WSJT Development Team.  We have no plan to retire either JT4 or JT65.

While I think of it: The wider Q65 submodes work very well on 10 GHz rainscatter.  An example is included in the sample files downloadable from the WSJT-X Help menu.

  -- 73, Joe, K1JT


Locked Why you should use split on FT8 #QSO_practices #FT8

Tony Collett
 

For those that insist on calling directly on top of someone's frequency instead of calling split on a separate frequency 
And for those that insist on remaining on somebody else's frequency after the QSO has completed......
This is what I observed last night on 80m (sorry it includes real calls).

225615 -21 0.3 2676 ~ CQ VU2DED ML88  India

225631 Tx 2551 ~ VU2DED G4NBS JO02

225645 -20 0.3 2676 ~ SQ8OAU VU2DED -14

225700 17 -0.2 2676 ~ VU2DED SQ8OAU R-13

225730 16 -0.2 2675 ~ VU2DED SQ8OAU 73

225745 0 0.1 2673 ~ SQ8OAU 9A4ZM JN64

225800 -12 0.5 2676 ~ VU2DED DO4MTB JO41

225815 -2 0.1 2672 ~ SQ8OAU 9A4ZM JN64

I doubt if I would have made the QSO as it was in/out with QSB but no chance of seeing the VU again once the third party decided he wanted to use the same frequency!

PLEASE USE SPLIT!!!

73
Tony G4NBS


Locked Re: Time Sync Program. #Timesync

Ria, N2RJ
 

Meinberg avoids sudden shifts in the clock. It’s also set and forget, completely unobtrusive. This is why I prefer it over nettime. 

Ria
N2RJ 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:12 AM Jim Brown <k9yc@...> wrote:
On 3/16/2021 3:48 PM, Bob Lewis wrote:
> The Meinburg monitoring service only works with Meinburg NTP so both
> must be installed and the windows time service (or any other time
> service like D4) must be disabled.

As long as your computer has internet, NetTime is Sooo much simpler.

http://www.timesynctool.com/

73, Jim K9YC




Locked Re: Q65 on VHF - which frequencies are used for 2 and 6m? #Q65

ve4cy
 

With scatter, the more power the better..  But 80W into 3 elements will work well.  (I'm getting good results with 100W into 4 elements).  I have a friend who makes contacts using a simple dipole.

There are two great online resources for meteor scatter.   The first is PSK reporter.  Above the map, fill in the filter boxes with the appropriate info.  That will let you see everyone who is running MSK144 on 6 meters over a given time period.  This will also let you see the overall conditions at a glance.  (It works for other digital modes as well).  And... So you can share your results on the site, make sure you have "Enable PSK Reporter Spotting" checked off in the Reporting tab in the Settings menu.


There's an online chat site called Ping Jockey.  All the die hard scatter guys hang out there and discuss current conditions and all things scatter:


73 de Jim VE4CY


From: "va7qi" <ve7mdl@...>
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:38:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Q65 on VHF - which frequencies are used for 2 and 6m? #Q65

OK, thanks.  I will be listening there over the next 24-48 hours and call the occasional CQ.
Running 80 Watts into a 3-element Yagi currently pointing SE.

73 de va7qi,             ....Erik.





Locked Re: Q65 on VHF - which frequencies are used for 2 and 6m? #Q65

Buddy Morgan
 

Around here (Florida) using 144.174 or 144.150 would be very unpopular. As long as you stayed below 144.170,  you could set up a Q65 sked on about any frequency you wanted.

Buddy WB4OMG


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Phipps <qrz@...>
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Mar 17, 2021 7:27 am
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Q65 on VHF - which frequencies are used for 2 and 6m? #Q65

I haven’t seen anyone come up with a QRG for 2m, but when I had a homebrew 6el Yagi up for 2m, we were testing Q65 out on 144.170 MHz. I’m not sure how that jives with Region 1 or 3 band plans, though… ymmv.

We started out using 30A, but found that 30B works better up there. It’s been weeks since I was active there, and it’ll have to wait until I can build a better Yagi and get it up higher (hopefully with a decent rotator this time), but I’d imagine that they’re still doing Q65-30B on 144.170.


Mike K8WU

> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:38 AM, va7qi <ve7mdl@...> wrote:
>
> OK, thanks.  I will be listening there over the next 24-48 hours and call the occasional CQ.
> Running 80 Watts into a 3-element Yagi currently pointing SE.
>
> 73 de va7qi,            ....Erik.
>
>





Locked Re: Q65 on VHF - which frequencies are used for 2 and 6m? #Q65

Mike Phipps <qrz@...>
 

I haven’t seen anyone come up with a QRG for 2m, but when I had a homebrew 6el Yagi up for 2m, we were testing Q65 out on 144.170 MHz. I’m not sure how that jives with Region 1 or 3 band plans, though… ymmv.

We started out using 30A, but found that 30B works better up there. It’s been weeks since I was active there, and it’ll have to wait until I can build a better Yagi and get it up higher (hopefully with a decent rotator this time), but I’d imagine that they’re still doing Q65-30B on 144.170.


Mike K8WU

On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:38 AM, va7qi <ve7mdl@...> wrote:

OK, thanks. I will be listening there over the next 24-48 hours and call the occasional CQ.
Running 80 Watts into a 3-element Yagi currently pointing SE.

73 de va7qi, ....Erik.


Locked #JT4 Worrying comment for beacon users #JT4

Andy Talbot
 

In an email I received today, someone made the comment 

"the earlier JT4 (which has unfortunately been declared 'obsolete' and removed from the latest release candidate), JT65 and QRA64 (also removed..."

I'm hoping above all else this was just a mistake on the writer's part and that JT4 and JT65 will always remain, even if they are less efficient than the others   They have been implemented on a large number of beacons around the World now and it would be catastrophic if the modes were removed from the WSJt-X suite, and users required to keep an older copy in parallel with the latest.  AFAIK, it's only QRA64 that has gone, to be replaced with Q65.

As far as I can see, JT4G is still the only mode that can cope with the really wide spread of rain scatter on 10GHz and 24GHz.
I'm also hoping JT9 stays, too.   Like JT4 its implementation in a small processor, encoding in real time is straightforward, unlike the memory-heavy matrix-encoder later modes.

It really would be a great pity if beacons were forced into using the rather cut-down PI4 mode because of a fear of built in obsolescence on any of those in WSJT-X.  PI4 itself, being inspired by and generated the same way as JT4G
 

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Locked Re: Time Sync Program. #Timesync

Jim Brown
 

On 3/16/2021 3:48 PM, Bob Lewis wrote:
The Meinburg monitoring service only works with Meinburg NTP so both must be installed and the windows time service (or any other time service like D4) must be disabled.
As long as your computer has internet, NetTime is Sooo much simpler.

http://www.timesynctool.com/

73, Jim K9YC