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Re: How best to use frequency cursors??
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Sam Birnbaum
It's clear to the station calling CQ. That why the station is calling CQ on that offset. He may get multiple responses, but that does not negate the fact that it was a clear offset to him. As far as decoding all those responses, WSJT-X will attempt to decode first on his last offset that he decoded,and then will start on all the other offsets. The probability that all the signalsare of the same strength and are on exactly the same offset are rather small.Most of the time someone will get through and then the others within 25 Hz will be stopped. If after 2 Xmt cycles I see that the station still calling CQ,I will move 25Hz towards the center of the band and if that does not work,I stop calling that station.
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From: Bob Lewis <aa4pb@...> To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2022 5:42 pm Subject: Re: [WSJTX] How best to use frequency cursors?? #help It's not guaranteed that the other station's frequency is clear on his end. There could be dozens of stations calling him on that frequency. If he's DX then calling on his frequency could be a very bad choice. -----Original Message----- From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sam Birnbaum via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 5:31 PM To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Subject: Re: [WSJTX] How best to use frequency cursors?? #help Hi Gwen,, "Your transmission (red/top cursor) is probably more likely to get thru if it is on a "dead/deep blue" portion of the waterfall." Actually that spot might be completely RED at the other stations location.One thing is guaranteed, the offset that other station is using is clear at his end. 73, Sam W2JDB -----Original Message----- From: Gwen <gsw2@...> To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2022 11:42 am Subject: Re: [WSJTX] How best to use frequency cursors?? #help Shouldn't matter whether the cursors match the desired station. If the waterfall display is red, it is actually better that your cursor not be on that frequency. Your transmission (red/top cursor) is probably more likely to get thru if it is on a "dead/deep blue" portion of the waterfall. Yes, every transmission displayed in the left hand log box is on the waterfall. RE: first portion -- if the signal you are attempting is weak (in a blue waterfall display), you are more likely to make contact if your transmit cursor matches his --- but if the stream is red, move your transmitter to a bluer section of the waterfall. Gwen KI5PXQ On 1/26/22 8:59 AM, Michael Black via groups.io wrote: It seems most people are using "Hold Tx" to keep their transmit offset the same -- not caring who/where the receiver is.This is working them split in the classical sense. You can work them on their frequency but you may collide with others doing that. |
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Re: How best to use frequency cursors??
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Bob Lewis
It's not guaranteed that the other station's frequency is clear on his end. There could be dozens of stations calling him on that frequency. If he's DX then calling on his frequency could be a very bad choice.
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From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sam Birnbaum via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 5:31 PM To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Subject: Re: [WSJTX] How best to use frequency cursors?? #help Hi Gwen,, "Your transmission (red/top cursor) is probably more likely to get thru if it is on a "dead/deep blue" portion of the waterfall." Actually that spot might be completely RED at the other stations location.One thing is guaranteed, the offset that other station is using is clear at his end. 73, Sam W2JDB -----Original Message----- From: Gwen <gsw2@...> To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2022 11:42 am Subject: Re: [WSJTX] How best to use frequency cursors?? #help Shouldn't matter whether the cursors match the desired station. If the waterfall display is red, it is actually better that your cursor not be on that frequency. Your transmission (red/top cursor) is probably more likely to get thru if it is on a "dead/deep blue" portion of the waterfall. Yes, every transmission displayed in the left hand log box is on the waterfall. RE: first portion -- if the signal you are attempting is weak (in a blue waterfall display), you are more likely to make contact if your transmit cursor matches his --- but if the stream is red, move your transmitter to a bluer section of the waterfall. Gwen KI5PXQ On 1/26/22 8:59 AM, Michael Black via groups.io wrote: It seems most people are using "Hold Tx" to keep their transmit offset the same -- not caring who/where the receiver is.This is working them split in the classical sense. You can work them on their frequency but you may collide with others doing that. |
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Re: How best to use frequency cursors??
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Sam Birnbaum
Hi Gwen,,
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"Your transmission (red/top cursor) is probably more likely to get thru if it is on a "dead/deep blue" portion of the waterfall." Actually that spot might be completely RED at the other stations location.One thing is guaranteed, the offset that other station is using is clear at his end. 73, Sam W2JDB -----Original Message-----
From: Gwen <gsw2@...> To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2022 11:42 am Subject: Re: [WSJTX] How best to use frequency cursors?? #help Shouldn't matter whether the cursors match the desired station. If the waterfall display is red, it is actually better that your cursor not be on that frequency. Your transmission (red/top cursor) is probably more likely to get thru if it is on a "dead/deep blue" portion of the waterfall. Yes, every transmission displayed in the left hand log box is on the waterfall. RE: first portion -- if the signal you are attempting is weak (in a blue waterfall display), you are more likely to make contact if your transmit cursor matches his --- but if the stream is red, move your transmitter to a bluer section of the waterfall. Gwen KI5PXQ On 1/26/22 8:59 AM, Michael Black via groups.io wrote: It seems most people are using "Hold Tx" to keep their transmit offset the same -- not caring who/where the receiver is.This is working them split in the classical sense. You can work them on their frequency but you may collide with others doing that. |
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Re: Double-click on call sets TX enable
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Steve Z
Thanks Reino. Copying and pasting the call sign does work, but it is not easy to do from the scrolling list ( I guess I could turn off "monitor" to stop the scrolling).
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Re: Consequences of mistimed computer clock
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Gary - AG0N
On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:48 AM, neil_zampella <neilz@...> wrote: On that subject, a little expansion may be needed for newcomers and even as a reminder for some older ones who have forgotten. I leave my rig on, monitoring 24/7/365. If I’m not using it myself, it is parked on an interesting band where I expect activity, especially overnight when the upper bands aren’t open. Overnight, I’m usually on 80 meters. During the day, I’m on 17 or as high as propagation will allow for a reasonable length of time. When I get up in the morning, I look at the incoming list of stations to see how DX is doing. I am really surprised how many people aren’t paying attention to their clocks. It’s irritating to see so many that are a second or more off. Sometimes, I’ll try to let a station know about it with a free text, but when there are three or four of them that are way off, it just seems strange. The tools are right in front of each operator. Why aren’t they fixing it? Almost every morning I see KD1XXX (prefix could be wrong) sitting nearly 2 second off. Some think that as long as they are within a second or two, they are okay. True - TO A POINT! Think about it a little more. If you are off +1.5 seconds, anyone who is off the other way more than 1 second (-1) will not decode you and you won’t decode them. That’s because the combined error is your signals is over 2.5 seconds total. You’re burning up the air, wasting some of your time. Please strive to say well within 1 second. There are plenty of automatic ways to have your clock set properly to the right time. EVEN MANUALLY, your can get within 1 second very easily. Just look at the incoming signals. Not all of them are correctly time. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE WELL WITHIN A HALF SECOND (.5). 73, and keep track of time (don’t waste it). 😉 Gary - AG0N |
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Re: Answering FTx CQ with Tx2-message
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Jim Brown
On 1/26/2022 8:14 AM, Roger wrote:
Normally there is no requirement to log any QSO in the UK so there should be no expectation any QSO will be logged.That is a selfish position. Besides, the grid should be included in the LOTW confirmation, which is the modern equivalent of a paper QSL. When I came into the hobby as a school boy 66 years ago, a QSL was considered the final courtesy of a QSO, and each party paid for the stamp on their own card. 73, Jim K9YC |
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Re: Answering FTx CQ with Tx2-message
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Jim Brown
On 1/26/2022 4:40 AM, Roger wrote:
Unless they have a complex call which prevents sending their locator in Tx 1 I do not log these QSOs as I regard them as incomplete.A QSO is defined as the exchange of, and the confirmation of, the transmission and reception by both parties of the callsign and one other piece of information. For nearly a century, a signal report has been used as the second piece of information. The use of a Maidenhead grid is a newcomer, introduced, I think, by VHF/UHF awards and contesting in the last half century. 73, Jim K9YC |
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Re: Double-click on call sets TX enable
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Reino Talarmo
Hi Steve,
There is another way to achieve the same kind of issue especially on tail ending. Copy and paste the wanted call sign into box below DC Call and hit Generate Std Msg. Note that this does not take care of the proper timeslot, while double-click does. On the other hand a slow double-click does not harm too much. You can delay the start of your transmission by say up to 3 seconds into the transmission slot and still lose only a little, unless your signal is very weak. Forward error correction takes care of the missing part of your transmission. 73, Reino OH3mA |
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Re: Double-click on call sets TX enable
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careyfisher@...
Just single click?
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 1:05 PM Steve Z <zabarnick@...> wrote:
I usually have option "Double-click on call sets TX enable" checked "on" --
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Re: Answering FTx CQ with Tx2-message
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careyfisher@...
Roger,
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What do you do with all those grids you collect? 73, Carey, WB4HXE On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:14 AM Roger <groups@...> wrote:
On 26/01/2022 15:28, Carlos wrote:Normally there is no requirement to log any QSO in the UK so there.... locator inOK, well, its up to you Roger.... --
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Re: Answering FTx CQ with Tx2-message
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s52d
Hi!
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If you make QSO, then it shall be logged and confirmed (QSL, LotW etc). Making a QSO and then ignoring it is like "I do not like letter W. I never confirm QSOs with stations with W in their callsign". I like TX2: then I know how I am heard and what to expect. We've been into this stories in JT65 on HF times: some people do not like if called with TX2, others do not like RR73, others expect one additional 73. Funny: all this objections are gone when new country pops up. Anyhow, some 20 % QSOs are never confirmed. That is life. 73 gl Iztok, S52D BTW, I do log CW QSOs even without name/qth and with redundant 599 RST. On 1/26/22 1:40 PM, Roger wrote:
On 26/01/2022 12:22, Chuck - KY4CU wrote:It's fairly standard to use this method to move things along. It's mentioned in 10.5 of the user's guide:Unless they have a complex call which prevents sending their locator in Tx 1 I do not log these QSOs as I regard them as incomplete. |
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Re: Aggregation of two RX Streams in one Window of WSJT-X
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DL1KDA Alex <dl1kda@...>
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That is exactly what i want to have! vy 73 de Alex, DL1KDA Am 26.01.2022 um 18:20 schrieb gmendenh1947 <W8GNM@...>: |
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Double-click on call sets TX enable
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Steve Z
I usually have option "Double-click on call sets TX enable" checked "on" so that I can quickly respond to someone calling CQ or tail-ending my QSO. This works well if one can quickly double-click before the next 15 second period begins. But, in cases where I am unable to respond so quickly, I would like to be able to double-click on the call but not have "TX enable be set" thus avoiding transmission sometime during the 15 second period. Thus, an option to hold a modifying key, such as CTRL or SHIFT, while double clicking would be very useful. Thus, double-clicking on the call with the modifying key held down would populate the call in the "standard message area," but not enable TX. Now I would be able to wait before the next transmission period to set TX enable.
Is this a useful option to others? Is there another way to do this without having the source code modified? Steve N9SZ |
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Re: Answering FTx CQ with Tx2-message
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N1BUG
regarding starting a QSO with the TX2, i normally don't respond to stations that start out with TX2. PERIOD!Well, we are all different. When responding to others I usually start with TX1 unless I see that they are responding to and perhaps preferring callers who start with TX2 (as is often the case with semi-rare DX). I would prefer to start with TX2 but I know many don't like that so I try to be courteous and give them what they want. When I call CQ, I give priority to stations who call me with TX2, at least to the extent that I can process the information presented and choose one quickly enough. I primarily work DX. With the often extreme and constantly varying QRM on busy FT8 channels, shortening the QSO gives me a better chance of completing the QSO before the other station gets buried under stronger signals. I know WSJT-X is very good at sorting out overlapping signals, but there are limits and I lose quite a few to QRM. Paul N1BUG |
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Re: How best to use frequency cursors??
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Thanks for the tip, Gwen. I hadn't thought of using the Deep Blue zone for
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calling. I operate QRP most of the time, so the tip should increase my Q count. Tom, VE6ZC On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:42 AM Gwen <gsw2@...> wrote:
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Re: Answering FTx CQ with Tx2-message
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Lawrence Godek
I don't know about other logging systems but in the one i use, LOG4OM, when i start a QSO with another station the call sign goes from WSJT, JTAlert and Log4OM about the same time. In WSJT i only see 4 digits in the GRID box. Not a problem. As soon as LOG4OM pulls the data up for that call sign from QRZ.COM i immediately copy, manually by typing it in via the keyboard into the grid box of WSJT. When the QSo is complete and i get the screen that shows the QSo details, i click on ok and it logs it with all that info. In the event i forget to type it into the WSJT grid box, i can always wait and type it into the grid/locator box before the QSO is logged. Not an issue.
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I can't understand why so many people have a problem with manually updating the grid box if they want it populated when the info should be displayed in their logging program. QRZ sends 6 digit grid locations if the licensee has correct data in their profile. Otherwise there is a program out there that you can type the address of your QSo partner in and it will show their exact location and at the top of the screen show you what that particular grid location is. regarding starting a QSO with the TX2, i normally don't respond to stations that start out with TX2. PERIOD! Maybe that's a good thing if in contests but normal day to day, naw, no need to go that route. Now if the developers of WSJT decide to alter their program to make that the way it's gonna be, then that's a different story. Larry W0OGH On 1/26/2022 4:36 AM, SA5QED/David wrote:
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Re: Aggregation of two RX Streams in one Window of WSJT-X
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gmendenh1947
I think what is being requested is the ability to run two separate decoders each with separate audio stream inputs within a single instance of WSJT-x. The results could be combined into the single existing decode window. Decodes received on both audio streams would show up as duplicates probably with different s/n ratios. The two streams would come from separate SCU's on two different antennas. 73 W8GNM
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Re: low freq tones problem with Icom 706
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Using the Hold Tx Freq feature and picking a freq above 400 Hz in a quiet area has solved my problem. Also seems to help me in pileup situations. Thanks for the replies. I apparently can't use split or fake it because I am not controlling the radio with WSJT-X. I will be attempting to set up control when a cable on order arrives.
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Re: How best to use frequency cursors??
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Shouldn't matter whether the cursors match the desired station. If the waterfall display is red, it is actually better that your cursor not be on that frequency. Your transmission (red/top cursor) is probably more likely to get thru if it is on a "dead/deep blue" portion of the waterfall. Yes, every transmission displayed in the left hand log box is on the waterfall.
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RE: first portion -- if the signal you are attempting is weak (in a blue waterfall display), you are more likely to make contact if your transmit cursor matches his --- but if the stream is red, move your transmitter to a bluer section of the waterfall. Gwen KI5PXQ On 1/26/22 8:59 AM, Michael Black via groups.io wrote:
It seems most people are using "Hold Tx" to keep their transmit offset the same -- not caring who/where the receiver is.This is working them split in the classical sense. You can work them on their frequency but you may collide with others doing that. |
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