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Re: V2.2.0 rc1 error on start up (32 bit)

Bill Somerville

#9805

Hi Bob,

ah, so not a hardware restriction, just an excuse to splash out on a shiny new rig, hi hi.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

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On 11/05/2020 17:07, Bob G8HGN wrote:

Hi Bill,

I'm using an FT-847 with a RigBlaster Pro on the 32 bit set up with a RS232 to USB converter. I use it for 144/432 only.

It'll will work with the new PC, but I was going for an IC-9700 as a rig upgrade before the lockdown and as of now haven't persued it as yet.

73

Bob G8HGN

On 11/05/2020 16:56, Bill Somerville wrote:
Hi Bob,

what stops you using your old rig with a newer PC, that seems a strange restriction?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 11/05/2020 16:55, Bob G8HGN wrote:

Hi Bill,

I did read that when the initial announcement was made, but forgot about it in the last few days to actual release, so aologies for the query. At least others will see it and not have to ask.

I understand the reasoning, I'll just have to use the old version until I get a new rig I can use with the newer PC.

Thanks for the quick reply, 73

Bob G8HGN

On 11/05/2020 16:48, Bill Somerville wrote:
On 11/05/2020 16:35, Bob G8HGN wrote:
Hi,

Have just downloaded the new rc1, and the 64 bit version is working on
my W10 64 bits PC, but the 32 bit version is not on my Vista 32 bit laptop.

I get an error message as in the attached screengrab.

Bob G8HGNHi Bob,

as stated on the WSJT-X web page https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html and on the SourceForge files area README information https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/wsjtx-2.2.0-rc1/ , WSJT-X v2.2.0 is only supported on Windows 7 or later. We have been trailing removal of support for both Windows XP and Windows Vista for a number of releases, and as Windows 7 is now out of support and MS having three later releases of Windows in the field (8, 8.1 and 10); that time has come.

We have had to make this choice because supporting the latest versions of Windows, particularly the 64-bit version of WSJT-X, which has considerable performance advantages, makes support back to ancient and insecure operating system versions more trouble that it is worth. Specifically we do not wish to limit features and performance on newer operating systems just to support a few users of older systems.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Re: V2.2.0 rc1 error on start up (32 bit)

Bob G8HGN

#9804

Hi Bill,

I'm using an FT-847 with a RigBlaster Pro on the 32 bit set up with a RS232 to USB converter. I use it for 144/432 only.

It'll will work with the new PC, but I was going for an IC-9700 as a rig upgrade before the lockdown and as of now haven't persued it as yet.

73

Bob G8HGN

On 11/05/2020 16:56, Bill Somerville wrote:

Show quoted text

Hi Bob,

what stops you using your old rig with a newer PC, that seems a strange restriction?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 11/05/2020 16:55, Bob G8HGN wrote:

Hi Bill,

I did read that when the initial announcement was made, but forgot about it in the last few days to actual release, so aologies for the query. At least others will see it and not have to ask.

I understand the reasoning, I'll just have to use the old version until I get a new rig I can use with the newer PC.

Thanks for the quick reply, 73

Bob G8HGN

On 11/05/2020 16:48, Bill Somerville wrote:

On 11/05/2020 16:35, Bob G8HGN wrote:

Hi,

Have just downloaded the new rc1, and the 64 bit version is working on
my W10 64 bits PC, but the 32 bit version is not on my Vista 32 bit laptop.

I get an error message as in the attached screengrab.

Bob G8HGN

Hi Bob,

as stated on the WSJT-X web page https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html and on the SourceForge files area README information https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/wsjtx-2.2.0-rc1/ , WSJT-X v2.2.0 is only supported on Windows 7 or later. We have been trailing removal of support for both Windows XP and Windows Vista for a number of releases, and as Windows 7 is now out of support and MS having three later releases of Windows in the field (8, 8.1 and 10); that time has come.

We have had to make this choice because supporting the latest versions of Windows, particularly the 64-bit version of WSJT-X, which has considerable performance advantages, makes support back to ancient and insecure operating system versions more trouble that it is worth. Specifically we do not wish to limit features and performance on newer operating systems just to support a few users of older systems.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Re: v2.2.0.rc1 fake it setting not working

Bill Somerville

#9803

On 11/05/2020 16:53, Jim AF5FH wrote:
Downloaded v2.2.0.rc1, told MS Smart Screen that it was safe, installed on Windows 10 v1909 laptop. While making 3 contacts using FT8 on 30 meters, I see that the Settings, Radio, Split Operation, Fake It is set in software. However, there is approximately 2 second delay switching from receive to transmit, and Commander 14.5.8 is showing that WSJT-X is switching the VFO from A to B for transmit, and switching the VFO from B to A for receive. The front panel of the Icom 7200 is also displaying this.

Fake It setting is now working like Rig setting. This introduces a delay of about  2 seconds in switching from receive to transmit on Icom 7200. The previous released version of WSJT-X did not do this. I tried setting it to None, and then setting it back to Fake It, but the behavior did not change.

This new "feature" in the software did not prevent me from completing 3 contacts, and JTAlert 2.16.5 is working with v2.2.0.rc1 and DXLab Suite, uploading to eQSL and LoTW automatically after each contact, and one of my new contacts has already confirmed via eQSL and LoTW, so I am confident all this is working.

73,
Jim AF5FH Hi Jim,

there have been no changes since WSJT-X v2.1.2 in that area so I suspect what you are seeing is the result of an issue with Hamlib. I need to get some information from you about what is going on, I will get back to you shortly about that.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Re: v2.2.0.rc1 fake it setting not working

Dave (NK7Z)

#9802

Hi,

I have noticed decodes happening prior to the transmit window, (as a result of the faster decoding), could this be what you are seeing?

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

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On 5/11/20 8:53 AM, Jim AF5FH wrote:
Downloaded v2.2.0.rc1, told MS Smart Screen that it was safe, installed on Windows 10 v1909 laptop. While making 3 contacts using FT8 on 30 meters, I see that the Settings, Radio, Split Operation, Fake It is set in software. However, there is approximately 2 second delay switching from receive to transmit, and Commander 14.5.8 is showing that WSJT-X is switching the VFO from A to B for transmit, and switching the VFO from B to A for receive. The front panel of the Icom 7200 is also displaying this.
Fake It setting is now working like Rig setting. This introduces a delay of about  2 seconds in switching from receive to transmit on Icom 7200. The previous released version of WSJT-X did not do this. I tried setting it to None, and then setting it back to Fake It, but the behavior did not change.
This new "feature" in the software did not prevent me from completing 3 contacts, and JTAlert 2.16.5 is working with v2.2.0.rc1 and DXLab Suite, uploading to eQSL and LoTW automatically after each contact, and one of my new contacts has already confirmed via eQSL and LoTW, so I am confident all this is working.
73,
Jim AF5FH

Re: V2.2.0 rc1 error on start up (32 bit)

Bill Somerville

#9801

Hi Bob,

what stops you using your old rig with a newer PC, that seems a strange restriction?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

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On 11/05/2020 16:55, Bob G8HGN wrote:

Hi Bill,

I did read that when the initial announcement was made, but forgot about it in the last few days to actual release, so aologies for the query. At least others will see it and not have to ask.

I understand the reasoning, I'll just have to use the old version until I get a new rig I can use with the newer PC.

Thanks for the quick reply, 73

Bob G8HGN

On 11/05/2020 16:48, Bill Somerville wrote:
On 11/05/2020 16:35, Bob G8HGN wrote:
Hi,

Have just downloaded the new rc1, and the 64 bit version is working on
my W10 64 bits PC, but the 32 bit version is not on my Vista 32 bit laptop.

I get an error message as in the attached screengrab.

Bob G8HGNHi Bob,

as stated on the WSJT-X web page https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html and on the SourceForge files area README information https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/wsjtx-2.2.0-rc1/ , WSJT-X v2.2.0 is only supported on Windows 7 or later. We have been trailing removal of support for both Windows XP and Windows Vista for a number of releases, and as Windows 7 is now out of support and MS having three later releases of Windows in the field (8, 8.1 and 10); that time has come.

We have had to make this choice because supporting the latest versions of Windows, particularly the 64-bit version of WSJT-X, which has considerable performance advantages, makes support back to ancient and insecure operating system versions more trouble that it is worth. Specifically we do not wish to limit features and performance on newer operating systems just to support a few users of older systems.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Re: V2.2.0 rc1 error on start up (32 bit)

Bob G8HGN

#9800

Hi Bill,

I did read that when the initial announcement was made, but forgot about it in the last few days to actual release, so aologies for the query. At least others will see it and not have to ask.

I understand the reasoning, I'll just have to use the old version until I get a new rig I can use with the newer PC.

Thanks for the quick reply, 73

Bob G8HGN

On 11/05/2020 16:48, Bill Somerville wrote:

Show quoted text

On 11/05/2020 16:35, Bob G8HGN wrote:

Hi,

Have just downloaded the new rc1, and the 64 bit version is working on
my W10 64 bits PC, but the 32 bit version is not on my Vista 32 bit laptop.

I get an error message as in the attached screengrab.

Bob G8HGN

Hi Bob,

as stated on the WSJT-X web page https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html and on the SourceForge files area README information https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/wsjtx-2.2.0-rc1/ , WSJT-X v2.2.0 is only supported on Windows 7 or later. We have been trailing removal of support for both Windows XP and Windows Vista for a number of releases, and as Windows 7 is now out of support and MS having three later releases of Windows in the field (8, 8.1 and 10); that time has come.

We have had to make this choice because supporting the latest versions of Windows, particularly the 64-bit version of WSJT-X, which has considerable performance advantages, makes support back to ancient and insecure operating system versions more trouble that it is worth. Specifically we do not wish to limit features and performance on newer operating systems just to support a few users of older systems.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Re: Curved Line in Waterfall

Dave (NK7Z)

#9799

Pretty much, if all the traces are tilted in the same direction, it is probably your radio drifting.  If you have a few straight traces, and a pile of tilted traces, the radio is probably not drifting, but still a bit suspect...

Just watch things for a bit, if in the whole you are seeing all traces tilt, the radio is drifting.

I was seeing that now and then, I changed to a TXCO, and have not seen it again.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

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On 5/11/20 8:27 AM, Gary - AG0N wrote:

On May 11, 2020, at 05:58, Samuel KJ4VPI <sernstfortin@...> wrote:

Has anyone else noticed some slight variation in received messages in WSJT-X well after warmup? I'm noting a little tilting, and I wonder if the radio is experiencing a little thermal drift. Is there a PC program to measure drift using  WWV as a calibrated source?There’ll be those who say to use the Freq Cal mode, but you don’t even need that if you’re just looking for large drift.  Take the VFO and shove it to your nearest friendly neighborhood WWV/CHU frequency, tune off center by 1000 or 1500 (whatever you want), and just leave it.  If the radio is drifting, you should be able to see it right away.  If it is a long term deal, park it for an hour, or hours, and see what it does over time.  If you use the Freq Cal mode, it will read out the tone frequency in decimals of cycles so you can see precisely what it is doing.
Gary - AG0N

v2.2.0.rc1 fake it setting not working

Jim AC9ZL

#9798

Downloaded v2.2.0.rc1, told MS Smart Screen that it was safe, installed on Windows 10 v1909 laptop. While making 3 contacts using FT8 on 30 meters, I see that the Settings, Radio, Split Operation, Fake It is set in software. However, there is approximately 2 second delay switching from receive to transmit, and Commander 14.5.8 is showing that WSJT-X is switching the VFO from A to B for transmit, and switching the VFO from B to A for receive. The front panel of the Icom 7200 is also displaying this.

Fake It setting is now working like Rig setting. This introduces a delay of about 2 seconds in switching from receive to transmit on Icom 7200. The previous released version of WSJT-X did not do this. I tried setting it to None, and then setting it back to Fake It, but the behavior did not change.

This new "feature" in the software did not prevent me from completing 3 contacts, and JTAlert 2.16.5 is working with v2.2.0.rc1 and DXLab Suite, uploading to eQSL and LoTW automatically after each contact, and one of my new contacts has already confirmed via eQSL and LoTW, so I am confident all this is working.

73,
Jim AF5FH

Re: V2.2.0 rc1 error on start up (32 bit)

Bill Somerville

#9797

On 11/05/2020 16:35, Bob G8HGN wrote:
Hi,

Have just downloaded the new rc1, and the 64 bit version is working on
my W10 64 bits PC, but the 32 bit version is not on my Vista 32 bit laptop.

I get an error message as in the attached screengrab.

Bob G8HGNHi Bob,

as stated on the WSJT-X web page https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html and on the SourceForge files area README information https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/wsjtx-2.2.0-rc1/ , WSJT-X v2.2.0 is only supported on Windows 7 or later. We have been trailing removal of support for both Windows XP and Windows Vista for a number of releases, and as Windows 7 is now out of support and MS having three later releases of Windows in the field (8, 8.1 and 10); that time has come.

We have had to make this choice because supporting the latest versions of Windows, particularly the 64-bit version of WSJT-X, which has considerable performance advantages, makes support back to ancient and insecure operating system versions more trouble that it is worth. Specifically we do not wish to limit features and performance on newer operating systems just to support a few users of older systems.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Re: Curved Line in Waterfall

Gary - AG0N

#9796

On May 11, 2020, at 09:27, Gary - AG0N <mcduffie@...> wrote:

On May 11, 2020, at 05:58, Samuel KJ4VPI <sernstfortin@...> wrote:

Has anyone else noticed some slight variation in received messages in WSJT-X well after warmup? I'm noting a little tilting, and I wonder if the radio is experiencing a little thermal drift. Is there a PC program to measure drift using  WWV as a calibrated source?There’ll be those who say to use the Freq Cal mode, but you don’t even need that if you’re just looking for large drift.  Take the VFO and shove it to your nearest friendly neighborhood WWV/CHU frequency, tune off center by 1000 or 1500 (whatever you want), and just leave it.  If the radio is drifting, you should be able to see it right away.  If it is a long term deal, park it for an hour, or hours, and see what it does over time.  If you use the Freq Cal mode, it will read out the tone frequency in decimals of cycles so you can see precisely what it is doing.
By the way, drifting should not change anything WSJT-X presents to you in the form of a message.  The only thing you should see WSJT-X do is show you a different DF each receive cycle for a given signal that is not really moving.

Gary

Re: JT Alert Question

Bill Somerville

#9795

On 11/05/2020 16:26, Bill wrote:

I know I'm on the wrong forum, but I don't see how to post on the JTAlert forum.

My question is simple and it has to do with the "All.txt" file.

It is getting very large and would like to know, what happens, if anything if I erase it ?

Bill
K2WH
Hi Bill,

I'm not sure why you think your query has anything to do with JTAlert, the ALL.TXT file in the WSJT-X log files directory is a WSJT-X file. WSJT-X writes all decoded messages along with transmitted messages to that file, it is a journal of your operation, as such I recommend that you keep the contents. There is no need to keep the contents all in the ALL.TXT file, for example you might choose to archive the file to an offline storage media once a year. I recommend keeping the contents of the ALL.TXT file indefinitely as it can be very useful for clarifying future queries about completed, or otherwise, QSOS. WSJT-X only writes to the ALL.TXT file, unlike the wsjtx_log.adi log file which is used to determine which stations and related entities you have worked before.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

V2.2.0 rc1 error on start up (32 bit)

Bob G8HGN

#9794

Hi,

Have just downloaded the new rc1, and the 64 bit version is working on
my W10 64 bits PC, but the 32 bit version is not on my Vista 32 bit laptop.

I get an error message as in the attached screengrab.

Bob G8HGN

Re: Curved Line in Waterfall

Gary - AG0N

#9793

On May 11, 2020, at 05:58, Samuel KJ4VPI <sernstfortin@...> wrote:

Has anyone else noticed some slight variation in received messages in WSJT-X well after warmup? I'm noting a little tilting, and I wonder if the radio is experiencing a little thermal drift. Is there a PC program to measure drift using  WWV as a calibrated source?There’ll be those who say to use the Freq Cal mode, but you don’t even need that if you’re just looking for large drift.  Take the VFO and shove it to your nearest friendly neighborhood WWV/CHU frequency, tune off center by 1000 or 1500 (whatever you want), and just leave it.  If the radio is drifting, you should be able to see it right away.  If it is a long term deal, park it for an hour, or hours, and see what it does over time.  If you use the Freq Cal mode, it will read out the tone frequency in decimals of cycles so you can see precisely what it is doing.

Gary - AG0N

JT Alert Question

Bill <k2wh@...>

#9792

I know I'm on the wrong forum, but I don't see how to post on the JTAlert forum.

My question is simple and it has to do with the "All.txt" file.

It is getting very large and would like to know, what happens, if anything if I erase it ?

Bill
K2WH

Re: Linux Serial Port Issues

Bill Somerville

#9791

On 11/05/2020 15:30, Mark Erbaugh wrote:

Kari,

Thanks for the reply. See below.
You issuded "sudo usermod ..", right?
After that, did you log off and on again?
Does command 'id' show 'dialout' as one of your groups now?
 
I’m not sure I had logged off and back on, but I did just now.

Id shows that pi is a member of the dialout group
 
What does command 'ls -ltr /dev/tty*' show when you have
the KUSB cable connected?
 
crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 188, 0 May 11 10:19 /dev/ttyUSB0
What exactly does not work? How did you test?
I retested, and it seems the only thing not working is the Test CAT button.

73,

Mark

Hi Mark,

if the "Test CAT " button is not working then you should be getting an error message window. What does that error message window say, including the text revealed by the "Show Details ..." button?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Re: Linux Serial Port Issues

Mark Erbaugh <mark.election@...>

#9790

Kari,

Thanks for the reply. See below.

You issuded "sudo usermod ..", right?

After that, did you log off and on again?

Does command 'id' show 'dialout' as one of your groups now?

I’m not sure I had logged off and back on, but I did just now.

Id shows that pi is a member of the dialout group

What does command 'ls -ltr /dev/tty*' show when you have

the KUSB cable connected?

crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 188, 0 May 11 10:19 /dev/ttyUSB0

What exactly does not work? How did you test?

I retested, and it seems the only thing not working is the Test CAT button.

73,

Mark

WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1

Joe

#9789

WSJT-X 2.2.0 will be a significant program upgrade offering many new features.

The first candidate release, WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1, is now available for download and use by beta testers.  This candidate release is your first chance to test the new features and provide feedback to the WSJT Development Group.

A list of program changes since WSJT-X 2.1.2 can be found in the cumulative Release Notes
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/Release_Notes.txt
... and also in the updated WSJT-X 2.2.0 User Guide here:
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.2.0-rc1.html#NEW_FEATURES

Upgrading from earlier versions of WSJT-X should be seamless.  There is no need to uninstall a previous version or move any files.  You might want to install to a different directory from your WSJT-X 2.1.2 installation.

Links to installation packages for Windows, Linux, and Macintosh are available here:
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
Scroll down to find "Candidate release:  WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc1".

You can also download the packages from our SourceForge site:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/
It may take a short time for the SourceForge site to be updated.

WSJT-X is licensed under the terms of Version 3 of the GNU General Public License (GPL).  Development of this software is a cooperative project to which many amateur radio operators have contributed.  If you use our code, please have the courtesy to let us know about it.  If you find bugs or make improvements to the code, please report them to us in a timely fashion.

We hope you will enjoy using this beta release of WSJT-X 2.2.0.  Please report bugs by following instructions found here in the User Guide:
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.2.0-rc1.html#_bug_reports

     -- 73 from Joe, K1JT, Steve, K9AN, and Bill, G4WJS, for the
                        WSJT Development Group

Interesting new display

WB5JJJ - George

#9788
Edited

Just installed v2.2.0 rc1 and found that the Band Activity window has a "new normal" that I find awkward.

After the first decode period at 11.8s, the window works exactly as before, but at the conconsulsion of ALL decodes at ~15s, it resets the display to show only those last decoded. You must scroll up to see the original (larger) list of decodes. And, if there are just a few decodes in the first pass and the second pass has none, the BA window is now blank as everything is on the previous screen and scrolled up.

Temporary solution under Settings is to uncheck "Start new period decodes at top". Now you have a continuous flow of decodes (old way). I really enjoyed the start new decodes with the overflow off the bottom of the BA window, a much smaller list typically. I have part of the monitor display real estate taken up by JTAlert with just 3 lines of decodes, docked above WSJTx.

--
73's
George - WB5JJJ

Re: Linux Serial Port Issues

Karza <kari.sillanmaki@...>

#9787

Hi Mark,

On 11.5.2020 15.41, Mark Erbaugh wrote:

..

I did the “usermod -a -G dialout pi” to add my local user (pi) to the dialout group for access to the serial ports.

You issuded "sudo usermod ...", right?
After that, did you log off and on again?
Does command 'id' show 'dialout' as one of your groups now?

What does command 'ls -ltr /dev/tty*' show when you have
the KUSB cable connected?

Back on the WSJT-X main screen, the frequency mirrors the KX3’s frequency, changes to frequency on the radio change in WSJT-X and vice versa, but the “fake it” split mode doesn’t work.

What exactly does not work? How did you test?

I did various things such as changing the owner of the serial ports to the local user and changing the group of the serial ports to the local user – no change.

No need to do anything like that.

73's de Kari, oh2gqc

Waterfall signal Identification

Kermit Lehman

#9786

Hi,

One of the fringe benefits of a waterfall display, as in WSJT-X, is sightings of strange signals that occasionally show up. At least I enjoy it as long as they don't interfere too much.

Some of them are other amateur radio signals that we aren't used to seeing in a graphic display. PACTOR, for example. Sometimes someone will accidentally sweep a CW signal across the band. Some are signals from other services that have strayed.

At my QTH there are also many junk signals from devices in my neighborhood which contribute to the overall noise floor but can also stand out as individual signals. These are usually seen as broad noise bands. They often unstable and gradually drift across the waterfall, back and forth sometimes. I've noticed some of these change as people move in and out of the area.

Here is a resource for identifying different radio signal modes:

https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Signal_Identification_Guide

73,

Ken, AB1J