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locked Tom Morton K5TM

Don Hill AA5AU
 

This is to let you know that Tom Morton, tvmorton2000@... , who was a member of this group, passed away in January.

 

Nancy Morton

 

Tom is directly responsible for the online certificates for the FT Roundup. He wrote the code. He was of tremendous help whenever I needed it. He will be missed.

RIP Tom.

 

Don AA5AU

 

 


locked Re: Computer recommendations

Martin G0HDB
 

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:23 PM, a c wrote:
It’s no longer supported with security updates by microsoft and is virtual “swiss cheese” from a cybersecurity perspective.
And your evidence for your "swiss cheese" claim is...???

Clearly, now that Win 7 has dropped out of Microsoft support it will gradually become increasingly vulnerable, but I'll be interested to know why you assert that it's already full of cybersecurity holes, seeing as it's not very many weeks at all since the last security update was issued (and hopefully installed by everyone).

--
Martin G0HDB


locked Re: Computer recommendations

a c <jerseyj2@...>
 

It’s no longer supported with security updates by microsoft and is virtual “swiss cheese” from a cybersecurity perspective.

Jerry
KB2GCG


- "Defeat lasts one day, giving up lasts a lifetime."

On Feb 18, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Dave Garber <ve3wej@...> wrote:


ok, i will ask why?? to no windows 7 on the internet

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:42 PM a c via Groups.Io <jerseyj2=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Please please please do not use Windows 7 on any computer that will connect to the Internet.

Jerry
KB2GCG


- "Defeat lasts one day, giving up lasts a lifetime."

> On Feb 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM, n5qs <ygroup@...> wrote:
>
> I am running a Lenovo i5-3470 @ 3.20GHZ with 8 GB RAM
> with Win 7 Pro 64 bit
> it is running WSJT-x, 6 Firefox tabs, and a surveillance camera system with almost 20 cameras
> and has no problem keeping up with all of it.
> Computer was purchased Refurbished from Tiger Direct for 165.00
> Roger




locked Re: Computer recommendations

George J Molnar, KF2T
 

It’s an End Of Life product, with limited and declining security updates. Also, as time goes by, applications will inevitably drop compatibility as new libraries and functions replace older ones.

It was great in it’s day, but that day has passed.

George J Molnar
Arlington, Virginia 



On Feb 18, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Dave Garber <ve3wej@...> wrote:


ok, i will ask why?? to no windows 7 on the internet

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:42 PM a c via Groups.Io <jerseyj2=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Please please please do not use Windows 7 on any computer that will connect to the Internet.

Jerry
KB2GCG


- "Defeat lasts one day, giving up lasts a lifetime."

> On Feb 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM, n5qs <ygroup@...> wrote:
>
> I am running a Lenovo i5-3470 @ 3.20GHZ with 8 GB RAM
> with Win 7 Pro 64 bit
> it is running WSJT-x, 6 Firefox tabs, and a surveillance camera system with almost 20 cameras
> and has no problem keeping up with all of it.
> Computer was purchased Refurbished from Tiger Direct for 165.00
> Roger




locked Re: Computer recommendations

Dave Garber
 

ok, i will ask why?? to no windows 7 on the internet

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:42 PM a c via Groups.Io <jerseyj2=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Please please please do not use Windows 7 on any computer that will connect to the Internet.

Jerry
KB2GCG


- "Defeat lasts one day, giving up lasts a lifetime."

> On Feb 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM, n5qs <ygroup@...> wrote:
>
> I am running a Lenovo i5-3470 @ 3.20GHZ with 8 GB RAM
> with Win 7 Pro 64 bit
> it is running WSJT-x, 6 Firefox tabs, and a surveillance camera system with almost 20 cameras
> and has no problem keeping up with all of it.
> Computer was purchased Refurbished from Tiger Direct for 165.00
> Roger



locked Re: Computer recommendations

SA5QED/David
 

Hey fellow hams, my RPi4 shows 10-40% CPU load when DEEP decoding FT8.
What are you doing on your boxes?


locked Re: Computer recommendations

a c <jerseyj2@...>
 

Please please please do not use Windows 7 on any computer that will connect to the Internet.

Jerry
KB2GCG


- "Defeat lasts one day, giving up lasts a lifetime."

On Feb 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM, n5qs <ygroup@...> wrote:

I am running a Lenovo i5-3470 @ 3.20GHZ with 8 GB RAM
with Win 7 Pro 64 bit
it is running WSJT-x, 6 Firefox tabs, and a surveillance camera system with almost 20 cameras
and has no problem keeping up with all of it.
Computer was purchased Refurbished from Tiger Direct for 165.00
Roger


locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

Hasan Schiers N0AN
 

The only disadvantage to operating split mode is that some stations seem to deliberately close down their "view" in the waterfall and then they don't hear you if you are calling "off their waterfall".

I run split 99% of the time, but every so often you have to get on or relatively close to the calling station's frequency (which I dislike), or they won't answer because they don't see you calling (no decode happens if their waterfall span is less than where you are calling).
 
I use "hold Tx Freq" almost exclusively and it works really well, except for the issue above.

73, N0AN
Hasan


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 1:17 PM Philip Rose via Groups.Io <pvrose=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
I was about to ask whether it was better to stay on a single TX frequency or reply on the calling station's frequency. I had rationalised it in my mind that because FT modes have defined transmit periods, operating split frequency QSOs does not waste frequency. Operating split allows you to be separate from others calling the same station. I have that checked all the time.

73 Phil GM3ZZA

On 18 Feb 2020 17:56, Mike Rhodes <weightdn@...> wrote:

Not sure why you would need to track the Rx freq with the Tx freq Russell. If you do not have the Tx freq held, when you double click on the station you want to call, the Tx will go to that freq. However, the current 'best practice' (so to speak) is to pick what appears to you to be a clear freq and stay on that freq. Granted, your chosen Tx freq may not be clear on the other end but it is the best you can do given that you can't hear from the other Op's end of things. Is there a special reason why you want Rx and Tx to track? Are you using CAT control and have 'Rig' selected in the settings? This will give you the best performance.

Mike / W8DN

On 2/18/2020 12:39 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?

I'm not operating split mode.


Russell NC5O  




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------ Original Message ------

Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM

Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx


On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:

Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O


Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


--






--
73 Phil GM3ZZA


locked Re: Computer recommendations

Hasan Schiers N0AN
 

Lenovo M92 Core I5, 3.2 GHz, 8 GB Ram, all the usual stuff USB 2.0 , 3.0,  DVD Burner, SATA Drive, Valid Win10 Pro LIcense

MSK144 Processor Load: 13%  with WSJT-X, DXLabs Full Suite
It's LOAFING....and it's $174 from NewEgg

FT8 idle: 7%
MSK144 Real Time (Deep): 13%, F Tol 100 Hz

This includes all the following running at the same time:

WSJT-X MSK144
DXLabSuites : All apps
PJ Client
3 Open Firefox TABS
NMEATime2 (GPS disciplined Clock)
JTAlert

No need for more than this to run very heavy duty ham applications.

2nd Computer: (same as this one)

SDR Console v3  (SDR Dongle (FunCube + Pro and External Radio)
Full Satellite Tracking Mode
Receiver/Tx Controller/Tracker/Doppler Rx  and TX/ Rotor Control
PSKRotator
14 Open Tabs of FireFox
4 Telemetry Programs running 24x7
1 WX2I (NOAA Wx Sat Decoder)
VBAudio (digital audio from SDRC > TLM + WxSat Programs
Audio Repeater (VBAudio > Speakers)

Processor Use: 16% for all, 4.5% for SDRC, 9% GPU for SDRC

I'm not sure anyone can get a Win10 Pro license and this kind of hardware performance for $174 anywhere else. Plug and Play, full Microsoft License.
N2EME uses them for his EME Expeditions
I have several friends who bought them
All have been completely happy.

Nothing for me to gain in this, just know a darn good deal when I see one and hate to see people waste money on bells and whistles that don't do anything for their ham radio software.

If you need something inexpensive and robust enough to run demanding ham applications, this is a good choice, but hey, if you gots the bucks, have fun with something more impressive.

73, N0AN
Hasan


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 12:54 PM AG0N-3055 <mcduffie@...> wrote:


> On Feb 18, 2020, at 07:46, Kai-KE4PT <k.siwiak@...> wrote:
>
> It doesn't take much of a computer to run WSJT-X, but you do have to manage what else is running in the background, and what else is stealing focus away from WSJT-X.

Again, I would urge all of you commenting on how good your computer is with WSJT-X to not just go by how it runs on FT8.  Are you going to stick to FT8 the rest of your life?  The most intensive mode in WSJT-X is NOT FT8.  If you ever get interested in meteor scatter, you’ll want to move to MSK144.  Stick your mode on MSK144 and go up on six meters (50.260) and listen for awhile.  You will see a “gauge” showing processor loading for each 15 or 30 second receive cycle.  It will surprise you how much power it takes. 

Many systems won’t hack it, especially when you go to DEEP DECODE.  The handwriting is on the wall, and just like other things, the programs are going to require more and more horsepower as time and programming knowledge and ability move along.

Build the best computer you can afford, and know that it will work awhile before passing you by.  If you don’t, you’ll just need to do it again sooner.  Been there, done that!

73, Gary - AG0N


locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

Chris Zukowski
 


Mine tracks by default unless I tell it to “Hold TX Freq”. 


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:52 AM Russell Blair <nc5opsk@...> wrote:
Thanks to all for your input, well I guest I like for the Tx to track the Rx. Thanks Hub I'l give that a try, if not then I'l use it as is. Thanks all 
Russell NC5O



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------ Original Message ------
From: "Herb Blue" <WB8ASI@...>
Sent: 2/18/2020 11:50:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx

They move together when you hold down the Ctrl key.   73, Herb WB8ASI
On February 18, 2020 at 12:39 PM Russell Blair <nc5opsk@...> wrote:

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?
I'm not operating split mode.

Russell NC5O  



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------ Original Message ------
Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx

On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:
Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O

Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


--


 


locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

Russell Blair <nc5opsk@...>
 

Thanks to all for your input, well I guest I like for the Tx to track the Rx. Thanks Hub I'l give that a try, if not then I'l use it as is. Thanks all 
Russell NC5O



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------ Original Message ------
From: "Herb Blue" <WB8ASI@...>
Sent: 2/18/2020 11:50:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx

They move together when you hold down the Ctrl key.   73, Herb WB8ASI
On February 18, 2020 at 12:39 PM Russell Blair <nc5opsk@...> wrote:

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?
I'm not operating split mode.

Russell NC5O  



__________________________________
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------ Original Message ------
Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx

On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:
Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O

Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


--


 


locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

 

Thanks Herb, 

I've found it annoying when working split that the automatic halt TX doesnt.

73 Phil GM3ZZA

On 18 Feb 2020 19:33, Herb Blue <WB8ASI@...> wrote:
I agree running split is best.  Allows you better keep yourself in the clear.  On a quiet band I sometimes cozy up next to the desired station and let the green and red brackets just touch, so the automatic Halt TX will kick in if the station calls someone else.  73, Herb WB8ASI
On February 18, 2020 at 2:15 PM "Philip Rose via Groups.Io" <pvrose@...> wrote:

I was about to ask whether it was better to stay on a single TX frequency or reply on the calling station's frequency. I had rationalised it in my mind that because FT modes have defined transmit periods, operating split frequency QSOs does not waste frequency. Operating split allows you to be separate from others calling the same station. I have that checked all the time.

73 Phil GM3ZZA

On 18 Feb 2020 17:56, Mike Rhodes <weightdn@...> wrote:

Not sure why you would need to track the Rx freq with the Tx freq Russell. If you do not have the Tx freq held, when you double click on the station you want to call, the Tx will go to that freq. However, the current 'best practice' (so to speak) is to pick what appears to you to be a clear freq and stay on that freq. Granted, your chosen Tx freq may not be clear on the other end but it is the best you can do given that you can't hear from the other Op's end of things. Is there a special reason why you want Rx and Tx to track? Are you using CAT control and have 'Rig' selected in the settings? This will give you the best performance.

Mike / W8DN

On 2/18/2020 12:39 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

 

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?

I'm not operating split mode.


Russell NC5O  

 




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------ Original Message ------

 

 

 

Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM

 

Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx


 

 

On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:

 

Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O


Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


--

 






--
73 Phil GM3ZZA

 


--
73 Phil GM3ZZA


locked Re: Computer recommendations

n5qs
 

Forgot to mention running 2 very wide aspect monitors on the Lenovo and everything displays all the time.
Roger


locked Re: Computer recommendations

n5qs
 

I am running a Lenovo i5-3470 @ 3.20GHZ with 8 GB RAM
with Win 7 Pro 64 bit
it is running WSJT-x, 6 Firefox tabs, and a surveillance camera system with almost 20 cameras
and has no problem keeping up with all of it.
Computer was purchased Refurbished from Tiger Direct for 165.00
Roger


locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

Herb Blue - WB8ASI
 

I agree running split is best.  Allows you better keep yourself in the clear.  On a quiet band I sometimes cozy up next to the desired station and let the green and red brackets just touch, so the automatic Halt TX will kick in if the station calls someone else.  73, Herb WB8ASI

On February 18, 2020 at 2:15 PM "Philip Rose via Groups.Io" <pvrose@...> wrote:

I was about to ask whether it was better to stay on a single TX frequency or reply on the calling station's frequency. I had rationalised it in my mind that because FT modes have defined transmit periods, operating split frequency QSOs does not waste frequency. Operating split allows you to be separate from others calling the same station. I have that checked all the time.

73 Phil GM3ZZA

On 18 Feb 2020 17:56, Mike Rhodes <weightdn@...> wrote:

Not sure why you would need to track the Rx freq with the Tx freq Russell. If you do not have the Tx freq held, when you double click on the station you want to call, the Tx will go to that freq. However, the current 'best practice' (so to speak) is to pick what appears to you to be a clear freq and stay on that freq. Granted, your chosen Tx freq may not be clear on the other end but it is the best you can do given that you can't hear from the other Op's end of things. Is there a special reason why you want Rx and Tx to track? Are you using CAT control and have 'Rig' selected in the settings? This will give you the best performance.

Mike / W8DN

On 2/18/2020 12:39 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

 

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?

I'm not operating split mode.


Russell NC5O  

 




__________________________________
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------ Original Message ------

 

 

 

Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM

 

Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx


 

 

On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:

 

Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O


Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


--

 






--
73 Phil GM3ZZA

 


locked Re: Computer recommendations

 

Has Lenovo the same problem as Huawei?

73 Phil GM3ZZA

On 18 Feb 2020 18:38, Jim Brown <k9yc@...> wrote:

I'll repeat my recommendation of a Thinkpad, either new from the Lenovo
website or a refurb off-lease unit from a vendor like NewEgg. I've used
nothing but Thinkpads for almost 20 years. My last "big iron" was a dual
processor Dell that I bought to do heavy-duty acoustic modeling in 1999.
It finally died a few months ago. The Thinkpads did that modeling too,
are far more compact, and don't require an outboard UPS.

My shack computer is a Thinkpad T540 with an i7 processor and 16GB; it
came with only 8GB, and didn't allow wide tolerance decoding of MSK144
until I borught the RAM up to 16GB. OTOH, the used super-light weight
X230 Thinkpad I bought for members of our team to carry up a long and
difficult hiking trail to activate a rare grid runs WSJT-X just fine
with only 8GB, and RAM can't be added to it. Both of those machines run
Win7-64 Pro, and both can drive big external monitors.

For both machines I've bought used docking stations, which are a good
way to get extra ports, and which clean up wiring when used in the shack.

73, Jim K9YC

On 2/17/2020 5:54 PM, eam1212003 via Groups.Io wrote:
> It’s just about time to put my old Dell/Windows 7 computer to
> sleep...looking for inexpensive suggestions of a new computer/laptop
> that can comfortably handle HRD and WSJT..




--
73 Phil GM3ZZA


locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

 

I was about to ask whether it was better to stay on a single TX frequency or reply on the calling station's frequency. I had rationalised it in my mind that because FT modes have defined transmit periods, operating split frequency QSOs does not waste frequency. Operating split allows you to be separate from others calling the same station. I have that checked all the time.

73 Phil GM3ZZA

On 18 Feb 2020 17:56, Mike Rhodes <weightdn@...> wrote:

Not sure why you would need to track the Rx freq with the Tx freq Russell. If you do not have the Tx freq held, when you double click on the station you want to call, the Tx will go to that freq. However, the current 'best practice' (so to speak) is to pick what appears to you to be a clear freq and stay on that freq. Granted, your chosen Tx freq may not be clear on the other end but it is the best you can do given that you can't hear from the other Op's end of things. Is there a special reason why you want Rx and Tx to track? Are you using CAT control and have 'Rig' selected in the settings? This will give you the best performance.

Mike / W8DN

On 2/18/2020 12:39 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?

I'm not operating split mode.


Russell NC5O  




__________________________________
Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com


------ Original Message ------

Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM

Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx


On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:

Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O


Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


--






--
73 Phil GM3ZZA


locked FT-DX101D

Michael Black
 

Has anybody successfully set up an FT-DX101D with WSJT-X?

Helping a friend and we can't set the audio out level for the PSK/DATA nor can we get DTR PTT to work.

Also, the TX1 command over CAT does not work even though the CAT manual for the claims it is supported.

Figured somebody might have already figured this all out otherwise I'll have to bug Yaesu about it.

de Mike W9MDB



locked Re: Computer recommendations

Gary - AG0N
 

On Feb 18, 2020, at 07:46, Kai-KE4PT <k.siwiak@...> wrote:

It doesn't take much of a computer to run WSJT-X, but you do have to manage what else is running in the background, and what else is stealing focus away from WSJT-X.
Again, I would urge all of you commenting on how good your computer is with WSJT-X to not just go by how it runs on FT8. Are you going to stick to FT8 the rest of your life? The most intensive mode in WSJT-X is NOT FT8. If you ever get interested in meteor scatter, you’ll want to move to MSK144. Stick your mode on MSK144 and go up on six meters (50.260) and listen for awhile. You will see a “gauge” showing processor loading for each 15 or 30 second receive cycle. It will surprise you how much power it takes.

Many systems won’t hack it, especially when you go to DEEP DECODE. The handwriting is on the wall, and just like other things, the programs are going to require more and more horsepower as time and programming knowledge and ability move along.

Build the best computer you can afford, and know that it will work awhile before passing you by. If you don’t, you’ll just need to do it again sooner. Been there, done that!

73, Gary - AG0N


locked Re: Computer recommendations

Jim Brown
 

I'll repeat my recommendation of a Thinkpad, either new from the Lenovo website or a refurb off-lease unit from a vendor like NewEgg. I've used nothing but Thinkpads for almost 20 years. My last "big iron" was a dual processor Dell that I bought to do heavy-duty acoustic modeling in 1999. It finally died a few months ago. The Thinkpads did that modeling too, are far more compact, and don't require an outboard UPS.

My shack computer is a Thinkpad T540 with an i7 processor and 16GB; it came with only 8GB, and didn't allow wide tolerance decoding of MSK144 until I borught the RAM up to 16GB. OTOH, the used super-light weight X230 Thinkpad I bought for members of our team to carry up a long and difficult hiking trail to activate a rare grid runs WSJT-X just fine with only 8GB, and RAM can't be added to it. Both of those machines run Win7-64 Pro, and both can drive big external monitors.

For both machines I've bought used docking stations, which are a good way to get extra ports, and which clean up wiring when used in the shack.

73, Jim K9YC

On 2/17/2020 5:54 PM, eam1212003 via Groups.Io wrote:
It’s just about time to put my old Dell/Windows 7 computer to sleep...looking for inexpensive suggestions of a new computer/laptop that can comfortably handle HRD and WSJT..