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Locked Re: Separate Copy of WSJT-X on another computer not Shading Wrk B4

Hasan Schiers N0AN
 

...and New Call on Band works just fine, thanks tip!
Hasan


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:58 PM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
On 25/06/2020 18:54, Hasan Schiers N0AN wrote:
I have a copy of X running on an SDR with another computer and for some reason the coloring/shading does not work as I expect. The CQs are showing in Green, but no worked B4 gray shading is happening.

I have checked the box in General > Show DXCC , Worked Status....and the default coloring has been checked.

I copied my main wsjt-x adi log from my other machine, and told the SDR copy with X to Rescan the adif log, which it does and shows 1428 worked b4 records created.

However, when I actually watch decodes on both machines, the main machine shows worked b4 as expected while the SDR machine with the exact sme decode does not show ANY worked B4.

What am I doing wrong?

73, N0AN
Hasan

Hi Hasan,

WSJT-X does not colour or shade worked before stations. It will highlight new calls on the current band and/or new calls on any band. Check the "New Call" and "New Call on Band" highting options in "Settings->Colors" to enable that as you wish.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



Locked Re: Separate Copy of WSJT-X on another computer not Shading Wrk B4

Hasan Schiers N0AN
 

thanks Bill and Al, and I can't run JTA and DXMaps on the same computer (they both want udp 2237, so I'll just have to live with it.
The primary computer is running JTA and it is doing the shading as Al suggested. 73 N0AN
Hasan


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:58 PM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
On 25/06/2020 18:54, Hasan Schiers N0AN wrote:
I have a copy of X running on an SDR with another computer and for some reason the coloring/shading does not work as I expect. The CQs are showing in Green, but no worked B4 gray shading is happening.

I have checked the box in General > Show DXCC , Worked Status....and the default coloring has been checked.

I copied my main wsjt-x adi log from my other machine, and told the SDR copy with X to Rescan the adif log, which it does and shows 1428 worked b4 records created.

However, when I actually watch decodes on both machines, the main machine shows worked b4 as expected while the SDR machine with the exact sme decode does not show ANY worked B4.

What am I doing wrong?

73, N0AN
Hasan

Hi Hasan,

WSJT-X does not colour or shade worked before stations. It will highlight new calls on the current band and/or new calls on any band. Check the "New Call" and "New Call on Band" highting options in "Settings->Colors" to enable that as you wish.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



Locked Re: WSJT to N1MM Logging.

Bill Somerville
 

Hi Rick,

I'm not sure we have done anything wrong here. The change that has caused you issues was introduced in WSJT-X v2.1.0 GA which was released July 15, 2019 with the following release notice:
		   Release: WSJT-X 2.1
		      July 15, 2019
		   -------------------
		   
WSJT-X 2.1 is a major update that introduces FT4, a new protocol
targeted at HF contesting.  Other improvements have been made in the
following areas:

  - FT8 waveform generated with GMSK, fully backward compatible
  - user options for waterfall and spectrum display
  - *contest logging*
  - rig control
  - user interface
  - UDP messaging for inter-program communication
  - accessibility

There are numerous minor enhancements and bug fixes.

We now provide a separate installation package for 64-bit Windows 7
and later, with significant improvements in decoding speed.
My emphasis on "contest logging". The accompanying change log included this entry:
commit 91aa591a7139d0bb3c3f989fd613941ee4790cdd
Author: Bill Somerville <bill@...>
Date:   Mon Jun 24 00:56:41 2019 +0100

    Better ADIF conformance for ARRL Field Day mode
    
    This change may break N1MM Logger+ integration, notably the CLASS ADIF
    field is  populated which may not  be recognized by N1MM  Logger+, nor
    interfaces to it.
    
    One exception to  ADIF conformance is that the ARRL_SECT  field may be
    populated with  the value DX  despite it  not being a  valid ARRL_SECT
    enumeration value. This is done for consistency with N1MM Logger+ ADIF
    exports.
Details from here:


73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 13:27, Rick Ellison wrote:

Hi Bill..
After looking at things last night and calming down some it ended up being
just one field change. Last year the Qso's Class was being sent out via the
RST_RCVD field. This year it has been moved to the CLASS field. This is what
was not noticed. In our transfer routines we do n not have the CLASS field
in the import. That was added and a couple other changes needed to be made
to let that be captured.

73 Rick N2AMG

P.S. A new version should be posted in a few minutes..

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
Somerville
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 7:00 AM
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] WSJT to N1MM Logging.

On 25/06/2020 01:21, Rick Ellison wrote:
Sometime tomorrow there will be either a new full build or an 
Experimental version of N1MM built for interaction with WSJT for the
upcoming Field Day.
  It was brought to the developers attention tonight that the 
Exchanges that WSJT-X used last year for logging the FD exchange 
information were not the same this year. So the class and section were 
not being logged correctly. I went back thru all of the revision notes 
for WSJT-X and I find this mentioned no place in those notes. This is 
not something that should have been missed a couple of days before the 
contest. Unless the N1MM team is notified of changes that need to be 
made there would have been a lot of un happy users this weekend.

73 Rick N2AMG
HI Rick,

that's a surprise to me. Can you summarize where you are seeing differences
please?

73
Bill
G4WJS.



Locked Re: Separate Copy of WSJT-X on another computer not Shading Wrk B4

Al Groff
 

Hasan,
  I think the grey shading comes from JTAlert..
AL, K0VM

On 6/25/2020 12:54 PM, Hasan Schiers N0AN wrote:

I have a copy of X running on an SDR with another computer and for some reason the coloring/shading does not work as I expect. The CQs are showing in Green, but no worked B4 gray shading is happening.

I have checked the box in General > Show DXCC , Worked Status....and the default coloring has been checked.

I copied my main wsjt-x adi log from my other machine, and told the SDR copy with X to Rescan the adif log, which it does and shows 1428 worked b4 records created.

However, when I actually watch decodes on both machines, the main machine shows worked b4 as expected while the SDR machine with the exact sme decode does not show ANY worked B4.

What am I doing wrong?

73, N0AN
Hasan


    


Locked Re: Separate Copy of WSJT-X on another computer not Shading Wrk B4

Bill Somerville
 

On 25/06/2020 18:54, Hasan Schiers N0AN wrote:
I have a copy of X running on an SDR with another computer and for some reason the coloring/shading does not work as I expect. The CQs are showing in Green, but no worked B4 gray shading is happening.

I have checked the box in General > Show DXCC , Worked Status....and the default coloring has been checked.

I copied my main wsjt-x adi log from my other machine, and told the SDR copy with X to Rescan the adif log, which it does and shows 1428 worked b4 records created.

However, when I actually watch decodes on both machines, the main machine shows worked b4 as expected while the SDR machine with the exact sme decode does not show ANY worked B4.

What am I doing wrong?

73, N0AN
Hasan

Hi Hasan,

WSJT-X does not colour or shade worked before stations. It will highlight new calls on the current band and/or new calls on any band. Check the "New Call" and "New Call on Band" highting options in "Settings->Colors" to enable that as you wish.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Locked Separate Copy of WSJT-X on another computer not Shading Wrk B4

Hasan Schiers N0AN
 

I have a copy of X running on an SDR with another computer and for some reason the coloring/shading does not work as I expect. The CQs are showing in Green, but no worked B4 gray shading is happening.

I have checked the box in General > Show DXCC , Worked Status....and the default coloring has been checked.

I copied my main wsjt-x adi log from my other machine, and told the SDR copy with X to Rescan the adif log, which it does and shows 1428 worked b4 records created.

However, when I actually watch decodes on both machines, the main machine shows worked b4 as expected while the SDR machine with the exact sme decode does not show ANY worked B4.

What am I doing wrong?

73, N0AN
Hasan


Locked Re: wsjt-x and propagation mode in logs

Florian Wolters (DF2ET)
 

Hi Bill,

a universal diff against the master branch HEAD of the git repo on
SourceForge is sufficient.

https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx/ci/master/tree/

you can also submit a PR from a fork there if yo wish, but a patch is
fine.
Ah great. I did look for the sources on github but couldn't find. I
always forget about Sourceforge because it's rather slow and looks
almost dead
Will try my best to create a PR there.

vy73 de Florian DF2ET


Locked Re: v2.2.1 Hamlib errors with FT-891

Bill Somerville
 

On 25/06/2020 18:26, SM0TGU via groups.io wrote:
Same problem for RS-918 (mcHF) radio that are using FT-817 protocol. RS-918 seams not to work with FT-857 as selected radio.
Reverting back to v2.2.0 and it is working perfect with FT-817.
/Lars SM0TGU
Hi Lars,

the Hamlib FT-817 back-end has extra retries to help it work with non-conforming CAT emulations. The usual issue is that the rig will not respond to CAT commands until the bootloader has timed out. It is worth trying a few times with the FT-857 rig model, you may find it does work if it can get passed the initial CAT exchange.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Locked Re: v2.2.1 Hamlib errors with FT-891

SM0TGU
 

Same problem for RS-918 (mcHF) radio that are using FT-817 protocol. RS-918 seams not to work with FT-857 as selected radio.
Reverting back to v2.2.0 and it is working perfect with FT-817.
/Lars SM0TGU


Locked Re: Uh OH! Serious bug for Field Day!

Jim Shorney
 

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 22:23:22 -0700
"K7RA Tad Cook" <k7ra@...> wrote:

"But, but!" I've been told, this is a practice for emergencies, not a
contest!

K7SS pointed out that in a real emergency one would not be engaging in any
unnecessary communications or unrequired logging..
That is interesting. It never occurred to me to look at it that way because TPTB always trotted out the logging software and the ops dutifully logged.

But FD has devolved into pretty much just another contest whether or not the ARRL will admit to it. You wouldn't be using stuff like CAT control or FT- modes in a real emergency either. FD has jumped the shark as an emergency comms drill. ISTM that the POTA/SOTA/WWFF/IOTA/etc. crowd has done much more to advance the state of fly be the seat of your pants portable communications in recent years. Those guys are probably better able to set up and start passing traffic quickly in a disaster zone than the 22A FD club. No matter, I "retired" from FD anyway... :D

73

-Jim
NU0C


Locked Re: #bug #macos #hamlib #wsjtx #thank #IssueReport

Bill Somerville
 

On 25/06/2020 17:11, Miloš Soukup wrote:

Hello Bill,

I have the same problem with FT-817. I returned to 2.1.2 - it works for me fine. Should I select FT-857 also?

tnx & 73 de Miloš, OK1FMY
Hi Miloš,

Glenn's issue was slightly complicated because he is not using a real FT-817D but a UbitX rig that uses an FT-817D protocol. In your case the FT-857 rig option should work OK.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Locked Re: wsjt-x and propagation mode in logs

Bill Somerville
 

On 25/06/2020 16:35, Florian Wolters wrote:
Dear group,

I just made a small patch so that the log widget has a new drop down box
that you can use to also save the propagation mode to the adif log and
also populate it in the UDP interface. See screenshot attached.

I am not sure if there is interest in this to be included in the sources?

I could provide a diff against the 2.2.2 sources. Is there any
convenient process to make something like a pull request against the
sources?

vy73 de Florian DF2ET
Hi Florian,

a universal diff against the master branch HEAD of the git repo on SourceForge is sufficient.

https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx/ci/master/tree/

you can also submit a PR from a fork there if yo wish, but a patch is fine.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Locked Re: Any issues with WSJT-X in Linux?

Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...>
 

Bill, I'll look into that, but I haven't updated the machine in a couple of months. It was intended for digital operations in the field, and the Covid-19 lockdowns in my area made field ops impossible. So my updating my software has lagged behind. What I said was the case when I last used it. As in all things, YMMV.

I suspect I'll just continue to use the USB sound dongle because I already have it working. If they HAVE fixed the problem, it will probably wait for me to get around to revising my system at some point. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 7:22 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
Hi Gwen,

I thought the latest GalliumOS had done away with the proprietary audio drivers for the Chomebook built in sound card, and that it was useable by Linux applications now.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 03:34, Gwen Patton wrote:
I run it on GalliumOS, a Linux distro for reflashing Chromebooks. The rig I use it on is a Midnight Design Solutions 40m Phaser. It works great, so long as you use a USB sound dongle, as the built-in Chromebook sound system might as well be a crisp, tasty waffle.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:44 PM Jim Shorney <jshorney@...> wrote:

Of course that is true but I think it is way out of proportion.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 14:27:43 +0000 (UTC)
"Jim Bacher - WB8VSU" <wb8vsu@...> wrote:

> There are more people running Windows than Linux, so there will be more Windows complaints than Linux complaints. 




Locked Re: #bug #macos #hamlib #wsjtx #thank #IssueReport

Miloš Soukup
 

Hello Bill,

I have the same problem with FT-817. I returned to 2.1.2 - it works for me fine. Should I select FT-857 also?

tnx & 73 de Miloš, OK1FMY


Locked Re: Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected?

Reino Talarmo
 

Hi Sam,

Perhaps the reason is that the contest message exchange is defined as:

ARRL Field Day

CQ FD K1ABC FN42

                      K1ABC W9XYZ 6A WI

W9XYZ K1ABC R 2B EMA

                      K1ABC W9XYZ RR73

 

There is no additional 73 that was ‘forced’ by the RRR.
It was a good test, I assume, as now you know what is not working!

Good Luck in FD!

73, Reino OH3mA

 

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sam Birnbaum via groups.io
Sent: 25. kesäkuuta 2020 18:33
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected? #log_issues

 

Hi Bill,

Yes I did force a ctrl+R. I assume that if I did not I would have sent rr73 instead. As far as the docs indicate only ft4 forces rr73. Why would an era break the fd exchange process?

 

73,

 

Sam W2JDB

 




-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
To: main <main@WSJTX.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected? #log_issues

Sam,

 

are you forcing a Ctrl+R into WSJT-X? Unfortunately WSJT-X allows that even though is breaks the FD exchange.

 

73
Bill
G4WJS.

 

On 25/06/2020 16:08, Sam Birnbaum via groups.io wrote:

Hi Bill,

 

Just saw this exchange. I did a test this morning with my friend to make sure QLog is ready for the blind hams groups. I was on Tab 1. Running WSJT-X ver. 2.2.2,  TX1 was disabled, thought that was very unusual. QLog automatically adjusts for out of sequence tx/rx messages and was able to log the QSO. Here is the extract from All.TXT. It seems to have exactly the same pattern as the one from Dave.

 

200625_131545 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 CQ FD K2GK FN30

200625_131600 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB 1D NLI                   

200625_131615 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 W2JDB K2GK R 1D NLI

200625_131630 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB RRR                      

200625_131645 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 W2JDB K2GK 73

200625_131700 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB 73           

 

73, 

Sam W2JDB

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected? #log_issues

Hi Dave,

 

thanks for that. The messages are not the expected ones for a FD exchange as shown in the WSJT-X User Guide:

 

 

The exchange you had is exactly what happens if Tab 2 messages are used in FD mode. So if you were not using Tab 2 messages then you must be doing something else that is causing the RRR message to be sent that is breaking the FD mode. I have just tried a test QSO using Tab 1 messages and it works as expected with the full exchange being logged.

 

73
Bill
G4WJS.

 

On 25/06/2020 15:40, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:

This is a test contact I ran with AH6EZ.  He didn't choose to respond until after my second transmission.

200625_033100    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033115    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033130    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033145    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033200    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033215    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033230    50.313 Rx FT8     19  0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ R 1E WWA
200625_033245    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ RRR
200625_033300    50.313 Rx FT8     20 -0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ 73
200625_033315    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 73

This failed to log when it occurred, and I still can't get it to log.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On 6/25/20 7:26 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:

HI Dave,

please provide an extract of your ALL.TXT  file (in the WSJT-X log files directory) that covers the test QSO where you found that the log exchange fields were not correctly populated please?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:23, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:

I am on TAB 1.  Contest data was in the messages and set in my settings, but they are not populated in the log entry.  It is not possible to log without manually entering the Exch sent and Rcvd.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ


On 6/25/20 2:58 AM, neil_zampella wrote:

You shouldn't have to if you are on the >>>  TAB 1 <<<< of the messages.      Contest modes to not populate if you use TAB 2.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/25/2020 12:33 AM, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:

For Field Day, when Logging a QSO with Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected, I have to enter both the "Exch sent" and "Rcvd" manually.

Is this correct?!  I have the "FD Exch" set to my values.

Or, is there something else I need to set?

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

 


Locked wsjt-x and propagation mode in logs

Florian Wolters (DF2ET)
 

Dear group,

I just made a small patch so that the log widget has a new drop down box
that you can use to also save the propagation mode to the adif log and
also populate it in the UDP interface. See screenshot attached.

I am not sure if there is interest in this to be included in the sources?

I could provide a diff against the 2.2.2 sources. Is there any
convenient process to make something like a pull request against the
sources?

vy73 de Florian DF2ET


Locked Re: Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected?

Sam Birnbaum
 

Hi Bill,
Yes I did force a ctrl+R. I assume that if I did not I would have sent rr73 instead. As far as the docs indicate only ft4 forces rr73. Why would an era break the fd exchange process?

73,

Sam W2JDB




-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
To: main <main@WSJTX.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected? #log_issues


Sam,

are you forcing a Ctrl+R into WSJT-X? Unfortunately WSJT-X allows that even though is breaks the FD exchange.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 16:08, Sam Birnbaum via groups.io wrote:
Hi Bill,

Just saw this exchange. I did a test this morning with my friend to make sure QLog is ready for the blind hams groups. I was on Tab 1. Running WSJT-X ver. 2.2.2,  TX1 was disabled, thought that was very unusual. QLog automatically adjusts for out of sequence tx/rx messages and was able to log the QSO. Here is the extract from All.TXT. It seems to have exactly the same pattern as the one from Dave.

200625_131545 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 CQ FD K2GK FN30
200625_131600 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB 1D NLI                   
200625_131615 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 W2JDB K2GK R 1D NLI
200625_131630 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB RRR                      
200625_131645 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 W2JDB K2GK 73
200625_131700 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB 73           

73, 

Sam W2JDB



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected? #log_issues

Hi Dave,

thanks for that. The messages are not the expected ones for a FD exchange as shown in the WSJT-X User Guide:


The exchange you had is exactly what happens if Tab 2 messages are used in FD mode. So if you were not using Tab 2 messages then you must be doing something else that is causing the RRR message to be sent that is breaking the FD mode. I have just tried a test QSO using Tab 1 messages and it works as expected with the full exchange being logged.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:40, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
This is a test contact I ran with AH6EZ.  He didn't choose to respond until after my second transmission.

200625_033100    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033115    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033130    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033145    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033200    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033215    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033230    50.313 Rx FT8     19  0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ R 1E WWA
200625_033245    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ RRR
200625_033300    50.313 Rx FT8     20 -0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ 73
200625_033315    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 73

This failed to log when it occurred, and I still can't get it to log.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On 6/25/20 7:26 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:
HI Dave,

please provide an extract of your ALL.TXT  file (in the WSJT-X log files directory) that covers the test QSO where you found that the log exchange fields were not correctly populated please?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:23, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
I am on TAB 1.  Contest data was in the messages and set in my settings, but they are not populated in the log entry.  It is not possible to log without manually entering the Exch sent and Rcvd.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ


On 6/25/20 2:58 AM, neil_zampella wrote:
You shouldn't have to if you are on the >>>  TAB 1 <<<< of the messages.      Contest modes to not populate if you use TAB 2.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/25/2020 12:33 AM, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
For Field Day, when Logging a QSO with Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected, I have to enter both the "Exch sent" and "Rcvd" manually.

Is this correct?!  I have the "FD Exch" set to my values.

Or, is there something else I need to set?

73,
Dave
K7DCJ



Locked Re: Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected?

Dave - K7DCJ
 

Bill,

Could you please modify in a posting the text of the ALL.TXT segment that I sent you so that it is correct for FD?

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:


Hi Dave,

no, I am saying that a FD QSO in WSJT-X ends with a station acknowledging they have received the other station's section, class and acknowledgement of your section and class. That message is an *RR73* message.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 16:03, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Bill,

Are you saying that

200625_033200    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88

should be this?

200625_033200    50.313 Rx FT8     CQ FD AH6EZ CN88

I can't confirm what Tab we were on at the time of the QSO.  We will try again.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On 6/25/20 7:52 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:
Hi Dave,

thanks for that. The messages are not the expected ones for a FD exchange as shown in the WSJT-X User Guide:

https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.2.2.html#CONTEST_MSGS

The exchange you had is exactly what happens if Tab 2 messages are used in FD mode. So if you were not using Tab 2 messages then you must be doing something else that is causing the RRR message to be sent that is breaking the FD mode. I have just tried a test QSO using Tab 1 messages and it works as expected with the full exchange being logged.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:40, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
This is a test contact I ran with AH6EZ.  He didn't choose to respond until after my second transmission.

200625_033100    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033115    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033130    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033145    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033200    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033215    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033230    50.313 Rx FT8     19  0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ R 1E WWA
200625_033245    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ RRR
200625_033300    50.313 Rx FT8     20 -0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ 73
200625_033315    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 73

This failed to log when it occurred, and I still can't get it to log.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On 6/25/20 7:26 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:
HI Dave,

please provide an extract of your ALL.TXT  file (in the WSJT-X log files directory) that covers the test QSO where you found that the log exchange fields were not correctly populated please?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:23, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
I am on TAB 1. Contest data was in the messages and set in my settings, but they are not populated in the log entry.  It is not possible to log without manually entering the Exch sent and Rcvd.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ


On 6/25/20 2:58 AM, neil_zampella wrote:
You shouldn't have to if you are on the >>>  TAB 1 <<<< of the messages.      Contest modes to not populate if you use TAB 2.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/25/2020 12:33 AM, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
For Field Day, when Logging a QSO with Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected, I have to enter both the "Exch sent" and "Rcvd" manually.

Is this correct?!  I have the "FD Exch" set to my values.

Or, is there something else I need to set?

73,
Dave
K7DCJ




Locked Re: Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected?

Bill Somerville
 

Hi Dave,

no, I am saying that a FD QSO in WSJT-X ends with a station acknowledging they have received the other station's section, class and acknowledgement of your section and class. That message is an *RR73* message.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 16:03, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Bill,

Are you saying that

200625_033200    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88

should be this?

200625_033200    50.313 Rx FT8     CQ FD AH6EZ CN88

I can't confirm what Tab we were on at the time of the QSO.  We will try again.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On 6/25/20 7:52 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:
Hi Dave,

thanks for that. The messages are not the expected ones for a FD exchange as shown in the WSJT-X User Guide:

https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.2.2.html#CONTEST_MSGS

The exchange you had is exactly what happens if Tab 2 messages are used in FD mode. So if you were not using Tab 2 messages then you must be doing something else that is causing the RRR message to be sent that is breaking the FD mode. I have just tried a test QSO using Tab 1 messages and it works as expected with the full exchange being logged.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:40, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
This is a test contact I ran with AH6EZ.  He didn't choose to respond until after my second transmission.

200625_033100    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033115    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033130    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033145    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033200    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033215    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033230    50.313 Rx FT8     19  0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ R 1E WWA
200625_033245    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ RRR
200625_033300    50.313 Rx FT8     20 -0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ 73
200625_033315    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 73

This failed to log when it occurred, and I still can't get it to log.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On 6/25/20 7:26 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:
HI Dave,

please provide an extract of your ALL.TXT  file (in the WSJT-X log files directory) that covers the test QSO where you found that the log exchange fields were not correctly populated please?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:23, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
I am on TAB 1. Contest data was in the messages and set in my settings, but they are not populated in the log entry.  It is not possible to log without manually entering the Exch sent and Rcvd.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ


On 6/25/20 2:58 AM, neil_zampella wrote:
You shouldn't have to if you are on the >>>  TAB 1 <<<< of the messages.      Contest modes to not populate if you use TAB 2.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/25/2020 12:33 AM, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
For Field Day, when Logging a QSO with Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected, I have to enter both the "Exch sent" and "Rcvd" manually.

Is this correct?!  I have the "FD Exch" set to my values.

Or, is there something else I need to set?

73,
Dave
K7DCJ



Locked Re: Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected?

Bill Somerville
 

Sam,

are you forcing a Ctrl+R into WSJT-X? Unfortunately WSJT-X allows that even though is breaks the FD exchange.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 16:08, Sam Birnbaum via groups.io wrote:

Hi Bill,

Just saw this exchange. I did a test this morning with my friend to make sure QLog is ready for the blind hams groups. I was on Tab 1. Running WSJT-X ver. 2.2.2,  TX1 was disabled, thought that was very unusual. QLog automatically adjusts for out of sequence tx/rx messages and was able to log the QSO. Here is the extract from All.TXT. It seems to have exactly the same pattern as the one from Dave.

200625_131545 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 CQ FD K2GK FN30
200625_131600 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB 1D NLI                   
200625_131615 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 W2JDB K2GK R 1D NLI
200625_131630 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB RRR                      
200625_131645 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 W2JDB K2GK 73
200625_131700 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB 73           

73, 

Sam W2JDB



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected? #log_issues

Hi Dave,

thanks for that. The messages are not the expected ones for a FD exchange as shown in the WSJT-X User Guide:


The exchange you had is exactly what happens if Tab 2 messages are used in FD mode. So if you were not using Tab 2 messages then you must be doing something else that is causing the RRR message to be sent that is breaking the FD mode. I have just tried a test QSO using Tab 1 messages and it works as expected with the full exchange being logged.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:40, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
This is a test contact I ran with AH6EZ.  He didn't choose to respond until after my second transmission.

200625_033100    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033115    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033130    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033145    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033200    50.313 Rx FT8     21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033215    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033230    50.313 Rx FT8     19  0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ R 1E WWA
200625_033245    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ RRR
200625_033300    50.313 Rx FT8     20 -0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ 73
200625_033315    50.313 Tx FT8      0  0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 73

This failed to log when it occurred, and I still can't get it to log.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On 6/25/20 7:26 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:
HI Dave,

please provide an extract of your ALL.TXT  file (in the WSJT-X log files directory) that covers the test QSO where you found that the log exchange fields were not correctly populated please?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:23, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
I am on TAB 1.  Contest data was in the messages and set in my settings, but they are not populated in the log entry.  It is not possible to log without manually entering the Exch sent and Rcvd.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ


On 6/25/20 2:58 AM, neil_zampella wrote:
You shouldn't have to if you are on the >>>  TAB 1 <<<< of the messages.      Contest modes to not populate if you use TAB 2.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/25/2020 12:33 AM, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:
For Field Day, when Logging a QSO with Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day selected, I have to enter both the "Exch sent" and "Rcvd" manually.

Is this correct?!  I have the "FD Exch" set to my values.

Or, is there something else I need to set?

73,
Dave
K7DCJ