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Locked Re: Help with FIL1 bandwidth/FT8 question

Bruce N7XGR
 

Anthony,  You did not see my posting about this, it appeared just 2 days ago on the 7100 group.
It appears that your RX bandwidth setting needs to be wider on USB-D mode.
It is easy to change the RX bandwidth in USB-D mode, it is the same for regular USB mode.
IN USB-D mode press and hold the FLI on screen button at the top.  Tap the BW button, now rotate
the VFO knob to the right (CW) to increase the bandwidth, when done tap the BW button to save
this new setting.  You can do this to all 3 USB-D filters.  In regular USB mode this can be done also,
the bandwidth settings are separate per mode setting.  3 for USB, 3 for USB-D and so on.
When all is finished goto the SD card menu and save these new bandwidth settings.
When you set WSJT-X in Data/Ptk it sends the CIV command to the 7100 for USB-D mode.
This setting cuts off the mic audio during transmit, otherwise the mic would be hot
and picking up your barking dog or the howling from the Wolfman movie you are watching.

Bruce  N7XGR

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:38 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
On 26/06/2020 13:29, Anthony DeWitt wrote:
> I want to use my 7100 on Field Day for FT8.  It’s actually the perfect radio for FD because it has all bands.  I have used it for PSK and never noticed a significant issue with bandwidth.
>
> In prepping, I found I could not expand the FIL1 bandwidth past 1.4k on USD-D.  Does anyone know if there is a workaround or a fix?  I can get 3K on my 7300 but don’t want to take it to the field.  I noticed on the FT8 bandwidth that the bright yellow ends that reflect the available bandwidth show my viewable bandwidth to be greatly truncated.
>
> Help?
>
> Cross-posted to WSJT-X group too.

Hi Anthony,

looking at the IC-7100 manual, it does seem that 1200 Hz is the default
IF filter width in SSB-D modes for FILTER1, but it also says it is
adjustable to a maximum 50Hz - 3600 Hz width. Try selecting USB-D mode,
pressing the FILTER button for 1 second, then adjust the filter width.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



Locked Re: Help with FIL1 bandwidth/FT8 question

Bill Somerville
 

Hi Anthony,

I don't have an IC-7100 so take this with a pinch of salt. Try selecting USB-D mode, pressing the FILTER button for 1 second, then press it again until FIL1 is selected, then press the button under the BW display indication, then adjust the filter width using the main VFO dial.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 26/06/2020 13:52, Anthony DeWitt wrote:

Thanks Bill.  I must be stupid because I keep trying to follow the directions in the manual and can’t get the filter to adjust.  I guess I just need to keep playing with it.  Definitely operator error.  I saw the same thing in the manual, but could not get it to work operationally.  It’s gotta be something I am doing wrong.

AD0DQ

On Jun 26, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:

On 26/06/2020 13:29, Anthony DeWitt wrote:
I want to use my 7100 on Field Day for FT8.  It’s actually the perfect radio for FD because it has all bands.  I have used it for PSK and never noticed a significant issue with bandwidth.

In prepping, I found I could not expand the FIL1 bandwidth past 1.4k on USD-D.  Does anyone know if there is a workaround or a fix?  I can get 3K on my 7300 but don’t want to take it to the field.  I noticed on the FT8 bandwidth that the bright yellow ends that reflect the available bandwidth show my viewable bandwidth to be greatly truncated.

Help?

Cross-posted to WSJT-X group too.
Hi Anthony,

looking at the IC-7100 manual, it does seem that 1200 Hz is the default IF filter width in SSB-D modes for FILTER1, but it also says it is adjustable to a maximum 50Hz - 3600 Hz width. Try selecting USB-D mod, pressing the FILTER button for 1 second, then adjust the filter width.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



Locked Re: Field Day Digital Frequencies

Williams, G (af8c) <af8c@...>
 

RE:  Moving up

I would try steps of 3 to 5 kHz per the WSJT-X description:   "WSJT-X provides spectral displays for receiver passbands as wide as 5 kHz"
although I have not tried that myself.

-73,
Glenn,
AF8C

On 6/26/2020 9:16 AM, Kermit Lehman via groups.io wrote:
Re: Field Day frequencies for FT4 and FT8 (see much discussion down below)


Use the standard FT sub-bands.  If they get too crowded or if you don't want to QRM non-FD ops there's nothing to stop you from moving up above the normal FT sub-bands.  These higher frequencies are claimed by WSJT-X for other, largely unused modes but apparently aren't to be used for FT.  I have not seen an explanation why.


The WSJT-X standard suggestion is to move up in two kHz steps in contests when bands get crowded (WWDigi rules):


Set the radio dial at the bottom of the sub-band and work stations on audio frequencies within the radio passband typically 2.5-4 kHz wide. If a sub-band becomes crowded, move the radio dial frequency up in 2 kHz increments, as needed.


Of course, they are talking about moving up from separate contest sub-bands, but there's no reason it can't be done with the normal sub-bands.  Same principle.

 
Set your dial frequency up 2 kHz and you will overlap with the top 1 kHz of the existing sub-bands (already a less used portion).  Or you could go up 3 kHz for complete separation but still be adjacent.


It seems unreasonable to expect FT people to tune around looking for random operation away from the normal frequencies.  FT is a very compact mode in terms of frequency use.  It should easy to find contest sub-bands, but the best ones are right next door to the existing ones.


73, 

Ken, AB1J



-----Original Message-----
From: neil_zampella <neilz@...>
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2020 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Field Day Digital Frequencies

"Word of Mouth" is wrong ... there are no specified frequencies for Field Day.   Just use the standard frequencies and answer people calling CQ FD.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/26/2020 12:01 AM, Tim wrote:
I was told by word of mouth that only certain frequencies can be used for digital contacts (FT4/8, PSK31 and others) on Field Day.

I can not find anything as such. Am I not finding the correct ruling for digital progam contact?

Thank you and good luck to all this weekend.

Tim - N8NEU
DMR ID 3158619
FN00ah

-----Original Message-----
From: K8BL BOB LIDDY <k8bl@...>
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Jun 23, 2020 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Field Day frequencies for FT4 and FT8?

Maybe the mostly dead spaces at 7100-7125, 14100-14150, 21100-21200
 and 28100-28200 could be used  for those 27 hours. Temporarily pick a
 freq or two in those areas. This is mostly a Domestic event at lower power
 having little effect or interest outside US/Canada. Just a suggestion.
  de  Bob  K8BL

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 01:07:56 PM EDT, Hasan Schiers N0AN <hbasri.schiers6@...> wrote:


Because it's inconsiderate of the non FT-8 etc. operators. We have our own segment, live with it, for 27 hours and let the other freq's alone. Moving off is understandable for a DXpedition which goes on for days and involves on station (on the far end).

Taking an entire contest community off our segment and splashing all over another segment is simply selfish.
Hasan


On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:04 PM Dick- K9OM via groups.io <RLVZ=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
On weekends, there's a great deal of FT8 activity on the standard FT8 frequencies without a contest taking place.  I expect the FT8 activity will increase greatly during Field Day this weekend which will make it impossible at times to find a reasonably clear frequency.  Since a WSJT contest mode is going to be used for FD, wouldn't it be desirable to use a FT8 contest frequency?  

73, Dick- K9OM

"Why would they be any different than normal? SSB and CW take over their entire segments for FD, so I would expect no special freq assignments for digital".
 



    




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Locked Re: Field Day Digital Frequencies

Ria, N2RJ
 

There are no required frequencies for FT8, at least not specified by ARRL.

There is a group who has frequency suggestions on 20m and 40m only for
this year so that those bands can have some space away from Field Day
traffic for regular DXing, particularly for stations outside of the
United States and Canada.

On 20 meters, suggested frequency is 14090, 40 meters 7056, 6 meters 50330.

These are suggestions and you may find more than a few people there.
I'm sure there will also be people working the regular band segments.

Ria
N2RJ

On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 00:01, Tim <t.m.kelly@...> wrote:

I was told by word of mouth that only certain frequencies can be used for digital contacts (FT4/8, PSK31 and others) on Field Day.

I can not find anything as such. Am I not finding the correct ruling for digital progam contact?

Thank you and good luck to all this weekend.

Tim - N8NEU
DMR ID 3158619
FN00ah


Locked Re: Field Day Digital Frequencies

Kermit Lehman
 

I should have specified in my previous email about FT Field Day frequencies that I was referring to the FT8 bands only, not the FT4 ones, in the following statement.  It would be better stated as:


Use the standard FT sub-bands.  If the FT8 bands get too crowded or if you don't want to QRM non-FD ops there's nothing to stop you from moving up above the normal FT8 sub-bands.  These higher frequencies are claimed by WSJT-X for other, largely unused modes (JT65, JT9) but apparently aren't to be used for FT.  I have not seen an explanation why.

 
73,
Ken, AB1J

-----Original Message-----
From: Kermit Lehman via groups.io <ktfrog007@...>
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2020 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Field Day Digital Frequencies

Re: Field Day frequencies for FT4 and FT8 (see much discussion down below)


Use the standard FT sub-bands.  If they get too crowded or if you don't want to QRM non-FD ops there's nothing to stop you from moving up above the normal FT sub-bands.  These higher frequencies are claimed by WSJT-X for other, largely unused modes but apparently aren't to be used for FT.  I have not seen an explanation why.



Locked Re: WSJT to N1MM Logging.

Richard Lawn
 

I got some help and while it’s not working as it should there was a backwards workaround - give Radio CAT control back to WSJT-X and have it broadcast for logging purposes to N1MM+. The WSJT call window from within N1MM also and you can select a call to work from that as well. I should be good to go...fingers crossed. 
--
Rick, W2JAZ


Locked Re: Field Day Digital Frequencies

Kermit Lehman
 

Re: Field Day frequencies for FT4 and FT8 (see much discussion down below)


Use the standard FT sub-bands.  If they get too crowded or if you don't want to QRM non-FD ops there's nothing to stop you from moving up above the normal FT sub-bands.  These higher frequencies are claimed by WSJT-X for other, largely unused modes but apparently aren't to be used for FT.  I have not seen an explanation why.


The WSJT-X standard suggestion is to move up in two kHz steps in contests when bands get crowded (WWDigi rules):


Set the radio dial at the bottom of the sub-band and work stations on audio frequencies within the radio passband typically 2.5-4 kHz wide. If a sub-band becomes crowded, move the radio dial frequency up in 2 kHz increments, as needed.


Of course, they are talking about moving up from separate contest sub-bands, but there's no reason it can't be done with the normal sub-bands.  Same principle.

 
Set your dial frequency up 2 kHz and you will overlap with the top 1 kHz of the existing sub-bands (already a less used portion).  Or you could go up 3 kHz for complete separation but still be adjacent.


It seems unreasonable to expect FT people to tune around looking for random operation away from the normal frequencies.  FT is a very compact mode in terms of frequency use.  It should easy to find contest sub-bands, but the best ones are right next door to the existing ones.


73, 

Ken, AB1J



-----Original Message-----
From: neil_zampella <neilz@...>
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2020 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Field Day Digital Frequencies

"Word of Mouth" is wrong ... there are no specified frequencies for Field Day.   Just use the standard frequencies and answer people calling CQ FD.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/26/2020 12:01 AM, Tim wrote:
I was told by word of mouth that only certain frequencies can be used for digital contacts (FT4/8, PSK31 and others) on Field Day.

I can not find anything as such. Am I not finding the correct ruling for digital progam contact?

Thank you and good luck to all this weekend.

Tim - N8NEU
DMR ID 3158619
FN00ah

-----Original Message-----
From: K8BL BOB LIDDY <k8bl@...>
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Jun 23, 2020 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Field Day frequencies for FT4 and FT8?

Maybe the mostly dead spaces at 7100-7125, 14100-14150, 21100-21200
 and 28100-28200 could be used  for those 27 hours. Temporarily pick a
 freq or two in those areas. This is mostly a Domestic event at lower power
 having little effect or interest outside US/Canada. Just a suggestion.
  de  Bob  K8BL

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 01:07:56 PM EDT, Hasan Schiers N0AN <hbasri.schiers6@...> wrote:


Because it's inconsiderate of the non FT-8 etc. operators. We have our own segment, live with it, for 27 hours and let the other freq's alone. Moving off is understandable for a DXpedition which goes on for days and involves on station (on the far end).

Taking an entire contest community off our segment and splashing all over another segment is simply selfish.
Hasan


On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:04 PM Dick- K9OM via groups.io <RLVZ=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
On weekends, there's a great deal of FT8 activity on the standard FT8 frequencies without a contest taking place.  I expect the FT8 activity will increase greatly during Field Day this weekend which will make it impossible at times to find a reasonably clear frequency.  Since a WSJT contest mode is going to be used for FD, wouldn't it be desirable to use a FT8 contest frequency?  

73, Dick- K9OM

"Why would they be any different than normal? SSB and CW take over their entire segments for FD, so I would expect no special freq assignments for digital".
 


Locked Re: Help with FIL1 bandwidth/FT8 question

AD0DQ Tony
 

Thanks Bill. I must be stupid because I keep trying to follow the directions in the manual and can’t get the filter to adjust. I guess I just need to keep playing with it. Definitely operator error. I saw the same thing in the manual, but could not get it to work operationally. It’s gotta be something I am doing wrong.

AD0DQ

On Jun 26, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:

On 26/06/2020 13:29, Anthony DeWitt wrote:
I want to use my 7100 on Field Day for FT8. It’s actually the perfect radio for FD because it has all bands. I have used it for PSK and never noticed a significant issue with bandwidth.

In prepping, I found I could not expand the FIL1 bandwidth past 1.4k on USD-D. Does anyone know if there is a workaround or a fix? I can get 3K on my 7300 but don’t want to take it to the field. I noticed on the FT8 bandwidth that the bright yellow ends that reflect the available bandwidth show my viewable bandwidth to be greatly truncated.

Help?

Cross-posted to WSJT-X group too.
Hi Anthony,

looking at the IC-7100 manual, it does seem that 1200 Hz is the default IF filter width in SSB-D modes for FILTER1, but it also says it is adjustable to a maximum 50Hz - 3600 Hz width. Try selecting USB-D mode, pressing the FILTER button for 1 second, then adjust the filter width.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Locked Re: Help with FIL1 bandwidth/FT8 question

Bill Somerville
 

On 26/06/2020 13:29, Anthony DeWitt wrote:
I want to use my 7100 on Field Day for FT8. It’s actually the perfect radio for FD because it has all bands. I have used it for PSK and never noticed a significant issue with bandwidth.

In prepping, I found I could not expand the FIL1 bandwidth past 1.4k on USD-D. Does anyone know if there is a workaround or a fix? I can get 3K on my 7300 but don’t want to take it to the field. I noticed on the FT8 bandwidth that the bright yellow ends that reflect the available bandwidth show my viewable bandwidth to be greatly truncated.

Help?

Cross-posted to WSJT-X group too.
Hi Anthony,

looking at the IC-7100 manual, it does seem that 1200 Hz is the default IF filter width in SSB-D modes for FILTER1, but it also says it is adjustable to a maximum 50Hz - 3600 Hz width. Try selecting USB-D mode, pressing the FILTER button for 1 second, then adjust the filter width.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Locked Help with FIL1 bandwidth/FT8 question

AD0DQ Tony
 

I want to use my 7100 on Field Day for FT8. It’s actually the perfect radio for FD because it has all bands. I have used it for PSK and never noticed a significant issue with bandwidth.

In prepping, I found I could not expand the FIL1 bandwidth past 1.4k on USD-D. Does anyone know if there is a workaround or a fix? I can get 3K on my 7300 but don’t want to take it to the field. I noticed on the FT8 bandwidth that the bright yellow ends that reflect the available bandwidth show my viewable bandwidth to be greatly truncated.

Help?

Cross-posted to WSJT-X group too.


Locked Re: WSJT-X 2.2.0-rc2

Bill Somerville
 

On 26/06/2020 04:02, edgudman@... wrote:
Bill - I see the same thing with my IC-7610 while running 2.2.0.  If WSJT-X is running and I turn the radio off using the power switch on the radio it will come back on after a couple minutes.  I have to close the software prior to turning the radio off.  Since I cover my rigs when not in use this can be a problem if one is not careful.  Don't want the radio running while under the cover.

Ed   N7BAV
Hi Ed,

please ask the Hamlib team to make this "feature" optional. I have asked the author but so far no response.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/hamlib/lists/hamlib-developer

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Locked Re: chrome anti virus blocking 2-2-2

Darl DEEDS
 

Wrong email. Sorry

 

 

From: Darl DEEDS
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 07:36
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] chrome anti virus blocking 2-2-2

 

Never go by word of mouth! Read the rules and obey. Then get on the radio and listen to where the CQ’s are at for the test or Field Day. Too many people are demanding certain frequencies for Field Day this year. There are none. Within your license class is all. Make some contacts and be happy!

 

73

Darl NA8W

 

From: Robert Watson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 23:45
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] chrome anti virus blocking 2-2-2

 

Thats interesting. I am currently having the same issue, Chrome is up to date, with the exact version that you upgraded to.

 

Now what? I have tried everything, except giving up.

 

WA7SON

 

On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 03:27:44 PM EDT, jim crisco via groups.io <jcrisco@...> wrote:

 

 

fyi

 

 

my chrome ( level 83.0.4103.106 ) blocked the download of wsjtx 2-2-2 install file ..64 bit..

i am using avg for anti virus...turned it off...same..

 

tried edge...

my edge ( level 83.0.478.56 ) allowed me to download the install file...

 

checked for updates for chrome...

there was one...installed...

new level is 83.0.4103.116

now chrome allows me to download the 2-2-2 install file ok...

 

73

jim

wa4yiz

 

 

 


Locked Re: chrome anti virus blocking 2-2-2

Darl DEEDS
 

Never go by word of mouth! Read the rules and obey. Then get on the radio and listen to where the CQ’s are at for the test or Field Day. Too many people are demanding certain frequencies for Field Day this year. There are none. Within your license class is all. Make some contacts and be happy!

 

73

Darl NA8W

 

From: Robert Watson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 23:45
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] chrome anti virus blocking 2-2-2

 

Thats interesting. I am currently having the same issue, Chrome is up to date, with the exact version that you upgraded to.

 

Now what? I have tried everything, except giving up.

 

WA7SON

 

On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 03:27:44 PM EDT, jim crisco via groups.io <jcrisco@...> wrote:

 

 

fyi

 

 

my chrome ( level 83.0.4103.106 ) blocked the download of wsjtx 2-2-2 install file ..64 bit..

i am using avg for anti virus...turned it off...same..

 

tried edge...

my edge ( level 83.0.478.56 ) allowed me to download the install file...

 

checked for updates for chrome...

there was one...installed...

new level is 83.0.4103.116

now chrome allows me to download the 2-2-2 install file ok...

 

73

jim

wa4yiz

 

 


Locked Re: CAT/rig not working for ft897 after Release 2.1.2

Bill Somerville
 

On 26/06/2020 07:04, Guybrush Threepwood wrote:
Dear Users,

Recently I upgraded my installation Debian Buster from 2.0.0 to 2.2.2 and I saw that the Hamlib Rig/CAT throws an errorr about geting the VFO.

After some investigation I managed to narrow down this  to the changes from:

last working version: 2.1.2

first non working version 2.2.1


I guess this is due to the change on hamlib 4.0

I have the same issue installing on both methods either using the .deb file and compile from scratch.

I do not know how should I report this bug. I have seen some post about this without answer. is there any place to fill a bug report and do the following of it?

is there any way I can help to fix this? I have very little knowledge on C but I have the radio so I can do some testing if instructed.

can someone clarify if this si ssomething we should manage from wsjtx side or from hamlib side? I do not know where the bug exatly is.

Thanks

guybrush Threepwood.
Hi Guybrush (cool name!),

this is a known issue, please select the FT-857 rig model which will work correctly.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


Locked CAT/rig not working for ft897 after Release 2.1.2

Guybrush Threepwood
 

Dear Users,

Recently I upgraded my installation Debian Buster from 2.0.0 to 2.2.2 and I saw that the Hamlib Rig/CAT throws an errorr about geting the VFO.

After some investigation I managed to narrow down this  to the changes from:

last working version: 2.1.2

first non working version 2.2.1


I guess this is due to the change on hamlib 4.0

I have the same issue installing on both methods either using the .deb file and compile from scratch.

I do not know how should I report this bug. I have seen some post about this without answer. is there any place to fill a bug report and do the following of it?

is there any way I can help to fix this? I have very little knowledge on C but I have the radio so I can do some testing if instructed.

can someone clarify if this si ssomething we should manage from wsjtx side or from hamlib side? I do not know where the bug exatly is.

Thanks

guybrush Threepwood.


Locked Re: #bug #macos #hamlib #wsjtx #thank #IssueReport

Bill Somerville
 

Hi Miloš,

are you still having issues with your rig using the FT-857 model on v2.2.2 of WSJT-X?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 26/06/2020 04:01, Miloš Soukup wrote:

Hello Bill,

Thank you for your info.
Pls, which is the last version not affected by it? 2.2.0?

thx & 73 de Miloš, OK1FMY


On 25/06/2020 17:11, Miloš Soukup wrote:
>
> Hello Bill,
>
> I have the same problem with FT-817. I returned to 2.1.2 - it works
> for me fine. Should I select FT-857 also?
>
> tnx & 73 de Miloš, OK1FMY
>
Hi Miloš,

Glenn's issue was slightly complicated because he is not using a real
FT-817D but a UbitX rig that uses an FT-817D protocol. In your case the
FT-857 rig option should work OK.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



Locked Re: Field Day Digital Frequencies

neil_zampella <neilz@...>
 

"Word of Mouth" is wrong ... there are no specified frequencies for Field Day.   Just use the standard frequencies and answer people calling CQ FD.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/26/2020 12:01 AM, Tim wrote:

I was told by word of mouth that only certain frequencies can be used for digital contacts (FT4/8, PSK31 and others) on Field Day.

I can not find anything as such. Am I not finding the correct ruling for digital progam contact?

Thank you and good luck to all this weekend.

Tim - N8NEU
DMR ID 3158619
FN00ah



    

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Locked Re: ARRL Field Day Contest Logging Messages

Reino Talarmo
 

Next try to put a call into the box under DX Call field and in Tab 1 Generate Std Msgs. If still not proper messages, then I may give up. You said that you'll get only standard messages, I assume.
73, Reino OH3mA

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io
Sent: 26. kesäkuuta 2020 7:27
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] ARRL Field Day Contest Logging Messages

I click OK. I have red Field Day on main window.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Reino Talarmo <reino.talarmo@...> wrote:

Hi Dave,
So you have selected Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day and that's fine, but how you closed that window? Did you closed it using the OK tab lower right? If you happened close it using upper right red X, then you have not actually selected the ARRL Field Day. You can see state at the main window where should be a red field saying Field Day to right from date and time.
73, Reino OH3mA

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io
Sent: 25. kesäkuuta 2020 22:56
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] ARRL Field Day Contest Logging Messages

If messages are the problem that won't allow FD logging, let's try this:

So, I have selected Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field Day.

If I go to Message Tab 1 and click on Generate Std Msgs, should I get the appropriate ones for ARRL Field Day? (I get the non contest messages.)

Do I have to manually enter the messages? If so, exactly what should they be?

73,
Dave
K7DCJ


On 6/25/20 9:02 AM, Reino Talarmo wrote:
Hi Sam,

Perhaps the reason is that the contest message exchange is defined as:

*ARRL Field Day*

CQ FD K1ABC FN42

K1ABC W9XYZ 6A WI

W9XYZ K1ABC R 2B EMA

K1ABC W9XYZ RR73

On 25/06/2020 16:08, Sam Birnbaum via groups.io wrote:

Hi Bill,

Just saw this exchange. I did a test this morning with my friend to
make sure QLog is ready for the blind hams groups. I was on Tab 1.
Running WSJT-X ver. 2.2.2, TX1 was disabled, thought that was very
unusual. QLog automatically adjusts for out of sequence tx/rx
messages and was able to log the QSO. Here is the extract from
All.TXT. It seems to have exactly the same pattern as the one from Dave.

200625_131545 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 CQ FD K2GK FN30

200625_131600 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB 1D NLI

200625_131615 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 W2JDB K2GK R 1D NLI

200625_131630 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB RRR

200625_131645 24.915 Rx FT8 -12 0.5 1590 W2JDB K2GK 73

200625_131700 24.915 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1590 K2GK W2JDB 73

73,

Sam W2JDB

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>
<mailto:g4wjs@...>
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io <mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2020 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Should I have to enter CLASS and SECTION for
every contact when I have Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL
Field Day selected? #log_issues

Hi Dave,

thanks for that. The messages are not the expected ones for a FD
exchange as shown in the WSJT-X User Guide:


https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.2.2.h
tml#CONTEST_MSGS

The exchange you had is exactly what happens if Tab 2 messages are
used in FD mode. So if you were not using Tab 2 messages then you
must be doing something else that is causing the RRR message to be
sent that is breaking the FD mode. I have just tried a test QSO
using Tab 1 messages and it works as expected with the full exchange
being logged.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:40, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:

This is a test contact I ran with AH6EZ. He didn't choose to
respond until after my second transmission.

200625_033100 50.313 Rx FT8 21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033115 50.313 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033130 50.313 Rx FT8 21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033145 50.313 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033200 50.313 Rx FT8 21 -0.0 1187 CQ FD AH6EZ CN88
200625_033215 50.313 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 1E WWA
200625_033230 50.313 Rx FT8 19 0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ R 1E
WWA
200625_033245 50.313 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ RRR
200625_033300 50.313 Rx FT8 20 -0.0 1187 K7DCJ AH6EZ 73
200625_033315 50.313 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1187 AH6EZ K7DCJ 73

This failed to log when it occurred, and I still can't get it to
log.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ

On 6/25/20 7:26 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:

HI Dave,

please provide an extract of your ALL.TXT file (in the
WSJT-X log files directory) that covers the test QSO where
you found that the log exchange fields were not correctly
populated please?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/06/2020 15:23, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io wrote:

I am on TAB 1. Contest data was in the messages and set
in my settings, but they are not populated in the log
entry. It is not possible to log without manually
entering the Exch sent and Rcvd.

73,
Dave
K7DCJ


On 6/25/20 2:58 AM, neil_zampella wrote:

You shouldn't have to if you are on the >>> TAB 1
<<<< of the messages. Contest modes to not
populate if you use TAB 2.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/25/2020 12:33 AM, Dave - K7DCJ via groups.io
wrote:

For Field Day, when Logging a QSO with
Advanced>>Special Operating Activity>>ARRL Field
Day selected, I have to enter both the "Exch
sent" and "Rcvd" manually.

Is this correct?! I have the "FD Exch" set to
my values.

Or, is there something else I need to set?

73,
Dave
K7DCJ





Locked Re: Uh OH! Serious bug for Field Day!

K7RA Tad Cook
 

I agree, it is a contest, although a fairly informal one.

Just as serious contesters always give a signal report of 5NN, you won't hear them ever ask for a repeat of the other station's section.

Of course, in Field Day the exchange does not include any signal report, only ARRL section and operating class.

I've always thought it funny that the various logging programs record the time of each contact and the other stations class, but I guess if they didn't they might get complaints. But maybe I am wrong, not having ever used a logging program.  For Field Day, I just make a list or spreadsheet for each band/mode and use it to record calls and check for dupes.





On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:17 PM Jim Shorney <jshorney@...> wrote:

The ARRL 2020 flyer at http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2020/2_1-2020%20FD%20Flier%20-%20What%20is%20FD.pdf calls it, among other things, an "informal contest". Hoever I have heard every year for as long as I've been licensed (over 40 years) from those in authority that FD is not a contest. I always treated it as a contest. Now there is no doubt.

73

-Jim
NU0C
Disingenuous OF

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 16:18:50 -0700
"Jim Brown" <k9yc@...> wrote:

> On 6/25/2020 10:07 AM, Jim Shorney wrote:
> > But FD has devolved into pretty much just another contest whether or not the ARRL will admit to it. 
>
> I don't know where or when this "FD is not a contest" got started. It
> sure was a contest in the '50s when I first experienced it with the club
> that got me started in ham radio! Indeed, it's been "the gateway drug"
> for almost every contester for the 65 years I've been a ham!
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
> Genuine OF




--
Tad Cook - K7RA
Seattle, WA
k7ra@...


Locked Re: #bug #macos #hamlib #wsjtx #thank #IssueReport

Miloš Soukup
 

Hello Bill,

Thank you for your info.
Pls, which is the last version not affected by it? 2.2.0?

thx & 73 de Miloš, OK1FMY


On 25/06/2020 17:11, Miloš Soukup wrote:
>
> Hello Bill,
>
> I have the same problem with FT-817. I returned to 2.1.2 - it works
> for me fine. Should I select FT-857 also?
>
> tnx & 73 de Miloš, OK1FMY
>
Hi Miloš,

Glenn's issue was slightly complicated because he is not using a real
FT-817D but a UbitX rig that uses an FT-817D protocol. In your case the
FT-857 rig option should work OK.

73
Bill
G4WJS.