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locked Re: I hate Windows updates..reduced audio output to rig.

Arnold Lausevich <nk9o@...>
 

Fucked up my com port orders again.  Fortunately I caught this in some reasonable time without tearing into setups.....
  de NK9O
On Saturday, August 22, 2020, 9:15:25 AM CDT, glenn@... <glenn@...> wrote:


Everything works fine on PSK but can't get much audio output to rig on WSJT after a Windows update this morning.
Checked and played with all the sound settings, and device selections, and get nothing close to old going out power. Did notice all the settings numbers have increased from where they normally were.
Moved Realtek High def devices to 100%. power slide to 100, and volume mixer panel to 100 and only get about 30-40 watts out. And can't over drive system if I wanted to unlike PSK.
This is what I was getting with everything set at 50% or so.
What happened?
And unfortunately, I think I saw this posted earlier and I just can't find it.
Sorry.
Tnx de ND9Y

Glenn Yerby
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
The Brubaker Group 
Broker Associate, GRI, CRS
2110 Calumet Avenue, Valparaiso, IN 46383
Cell Phone: 219-508-6437


locked Re: Off topic question

Jim Bacher - WB8VSU
 

I don't use Thunderbird  but it does have that setting available. 

I found this page that describes how to set it. 

https://support.tigertech.net/thunderbird-lmos

Jim Bacher, WB8VSU 
wb8vsu@... 
https://trc.guru

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:23 AM, KD7YZ Bob
<kd7yz@...> wrote:
On 8/22/2020 09:54, Jim Bacher - WB8VSU wrote:
> Most clients like Thunderbird have an option to de


That's a good idea, So I looked and don't see that option.




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AMSAT LM #901


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locked Re: Off topic question

NR4U Bob AFMARS
 

On 8/22/2020 09:54, Jim Bacher - WB8VSU wrote:
Most clients like Thunderbird have an option to de

That's a good idea, So I looked and don't see that option.



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Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901


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locked Re: WSJTX and a Ten-Tec Orion II, Ten-Tec 712 USB to Din sound card #WSJTX_config

Istvan Nyul
 

Hi Paul,

 

Yes, I have been down on that rabbit hole and I would like to offer my experience on the matter.

 

A couple of years ago I used an ORION I for FT8 and had an annoying problem. During a QSO, sometimes the transmission unexpectedly terminated, the 'Enable TX' button was grayed out and a 'Rig Control Error' message shown below, popped up.

My solution at the time was to be alert and immediately hit the ‘Retry’ button when the message popped up. It worked all the time.

 

Bill Somerville was very helpful sending me instrumented versions of the software so that he could see what was going on with Hamlib. After his investigation he concluded that it was the ORION firmware PTT timing that did not play nicely J with Hamlib. Bill made minor adjustment to the software and one of the versions he sent me was working reasonably well, so I left it at that because I am a CW guy anyway.  At about that time I acquired an ORION II and I was hoping that the new and latest Orion2 firmware would work better. That was not the case, I still had the same issue using ORION II with WSJT-x v2.0.0, running on Windows 8.1 Professional.

 

I now have an FT847 for digital modes and even the old 2.0.0 version is running perfectly on the above setup. The latest version of WSJT-x may already have a solution for this particular issue; I do not know whether it is the case or not. If not, see you on CW J

 

73, Steve

VE3USP

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Somerville
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 07:38
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] WSJTX and a Ten-Tec Orion II, Ten-Tec 712 USB to Din sound card #WSJTX_config

 

On 22/08/2020 07:56, Paul Mitchell wrote:

> Dear Group members, thank you for allowing me to join.  I am still in

> the progress of setting up my radio station for FT-8 and am awaiting a

> USB to serial adaptor for the Data Port on the rear of the Orion II.

>  I have had limited success in decoding with the Ten Tec 712 sound

> card connected to the Aux I/O port, though no TX at this stage as I am

> awaiting the USB to serial cable.

> Before I go down this rabbit hole much further.  I am sure others

> would have been here before me and may say Paul, stop where you here

> is the fix and set-up you require.

> PC:  Apple iMac running OSX 10.15.6

> RAM 32 GBytes

> I also have Parallels which will allow me to run Windows 10.

> Transceiver a Ten-Tec Orion II.

> Sound Card: Ten-Tec USB to Din 712

> Digital has been something I was going to get around to one day.  Well

> with the current COVID restrictions and my ears full of CW I thought I

> would give digital a go.

> Any and all help required for an easy setup.

> I was hoping to use the 712 though I do not think the software has

> this option.  Any and all links to hardware that I will have to

> purchase very much appreciated.

> Thank you for your time.

> Warm regards,

> Mitch.

 

Hi Mitch,

 

I would expect the TenTec 712 USB Audio codec to appear on your Mac system as a pair of audio devices. No special drivers should be needed as USB audio devices are supported natively in all modern operating systems. No extra hardware should be needed for a basic non-CAT VOX keyed setup, if you want a CAT connection to your rig you will need a connection for that, and it is desirable although not essential. For CAT any USB to serial adapter that is supported on Macs should suffice.

 

73

Bill

G4WJS.

 


locked I hate Windows updates..reduced audio output to rig.

glenn@...
 

Everything works fine on PSK but can't get much audio output to rig on WSJT after a Windows update this morning.
Checked and played with all the sound settings, and device selections, and get nothing close to old going out power. Did notice all the settings numbers have increased from where they normally were.
Moved Realtek High def devices to 100%. power slide to 100, and volume mixer panel to 100 and only get about 30-40 watts out. And can't over drive system if I wanted to unlike PSK.
This is what I was getting with everything set at 50% or so.
What happened?
And unfortunately, I think I saw this posted earlier and I just can't find it.
Sorry.
Tnx de ND9Y

Glenn Yerby
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
The Brubaker Group 
Broker Associate, GRI, CRS
2110 Calumet Avenue, Valparaiso, IN 46383
Cell Phone: 219-508-6437


locked Re: Off topic question

Jim Bacher - WB8VSU
 

Most clients like Thunderbird have an option to delete off the server after downloading. You likely have that turned on, so the web access won't see it if Thunderbird has already downloaded it. 

I have my clients set to leave the email on the server until I delete. Then it deletes off the server and the client at the same time. I have multiple computers/clients and that way all are synced. 


On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:30 AM, KD7YZ Bob
<kd7yz@...> wrote:
On 8/22/2020 08:42, Carl - WC4H via groups.io wrote:
> Hi Bob.
>
> What are you using for an email client?
>
>
Thunderbird 80.0b5 (32-bit) in the Beta-Update channel (With Enigmail
encryption which I use)

Sometimes I use the web interface too.

I have noticed that quite a few times, I do NOT see a 'Message' sent by
someone on BOTH the Web-Interface as well as the Email Interface.

It is weird, but no matter the "List" I am on, I'll see a reply here on
Thunderbird and never appears in the web interface.

This message line that I I replied to did not appear on the web but did
on email. Gremlins. Go Figure.



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73

Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901


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Bob KD7YZ in NE Kentucky


locked Re: Off topic question

NR4U Bob AFMARS
 

On 8/22/2020 08:42, Carl - WC4H via groups.io wrote:
Hi Bob.

What are you using for an email client?

Thunderbird 80.0b5 (32-bit) in the Beta-Update channel (With Enigmail
encryption which I use)

Sometimes I use the web interface too.

I have noticed that quite a few times, I do NOT see a 'Message' sent by
someone on BOTH the Web-Interface as well as the Email Interface.

It is weird, but no matter the "List" I am on, I'll see a reply here on
Thunderbird and never appears in the web interface.

This message line that I I replied to did not appear on the web but did
on email. Gremlins. Go Figure.


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73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901


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Bob KD7YZ in NE Kentucky


locked Re: Off topic question

Gary - AG0N
 

On Aug 22, 2020, at 06:30, KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...> wrote:

How do I reply to a message with quoted text? Currently whenever I reply
to a message, it starts with a clean slate and no reference to the topic.
Most email clients automatically include the message you’re replying to when you hit reply. Some clients have a reply with quote choice that will do it. Most/many of the clients allow you to highlight the part of the text you specifically want quoted and hit reply and put only that highlighted part in the quote (as it should be).

I’m assuming you’re not using the web interface. If so, I can’t help you, never looked at it.

Gary - AG0N


locked Re: Off topic question

Carl - WC4H
 

Hi Bob.

What are you using for an email client?

73.
Carl - WC4H


locked Re: Off topic question

NR4U Bob AFMARS
 

On 8/22/2020 01:04, n6vl via groups.io wrote:
How do I reply to a message with quoted text? Currently whenever I reply
to a message, it starts with a clean slate and no reference to the topic.
If you are referring to using the Web-Interface as opposed to using,
say, Thunderbird-Email-Client, then there is a shaded box lower left
whereby u can add the quoted text.

see jpeg I sent.

HTH



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73
Bob KD7YZ
AMSAT LM #901


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Bob KD7YZ in NE Kentucky


locked Re: WSJTX and a Ten-Tec Orion II, Ten-Tec 712 USB to Din sound card #WSJTX_config

Bill Somerville
 

On 22/08/2020 07:56, Paul Mitchell wrote:
Dear Group members, thank you for allowing me to join.  I am still in the progress of setting up my radio station for FT-8 and am awaiting a USB to serial adaptor for the Data Port on the rear of the Orion II.  I have had limited success in decoding with the Ten Tec 712 sound card connected to the Aux I/O port, though no TX at this stage as I am awaiting the USB to serial cable.

Before I go down this rabbit hole much further.  I am sure others would have been here before me and may say Paul, stop where you here is the fix and set-up you require.

PC:  Apple iMac running OSX 10.15.6
RAM 32 GBytes
I also have Parallels which will allow me to run Windows 10.
Transceiver a Ten-Tec Orion II.
Sound Card: Ten-Tec USB to Din 712
Digital has been something I was going to get around to one day.  Well with the current COVID restrictions and my ears full of CW I thought I would give digital a go.

Any and all help required for an easy setup.

I was hoping to use the 712 though I do not think the software has this option.  Any and all links to hardware that I will have to purchase very much appreciated.

Thank you for your time.

Warm regards,

Mitch.
Hi Mitch,

I would expect the TenTec 712 USB Audio codec to appear on your Mac system as a pair of audio devices. No special drivers should be needed as USB audio devices are supported natively in all modern operating systems. No extra hardware should be needed for a basic non-CAT VOX keyed setup, if you want a CAT connection to your rig you will need a connection for that, and it is desirable although not essential. For CAT any USB to serial adapter that is supported on Macs should suffice.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: TS570D/Signal Link/WSJT-X

Bill Somerville
 

On 21/08/2020 18:23, Chuck Atkinson wrote:
My friend, KC5GFL, has been successfully using WSJT-X with his Kenwood TS-570D using a Tigertronics SignaLink interface for several years.

Since recently receiving his TS-570D back from the repair shop, he has been unable to transmit using digital modes.  He can receive and decode.  The problem he is experiencing is that upon clicking "Enable TX" the TS-570D microphone is activated and a digital transmission does not take place.

The assumption is that the problem is caused by a setting in the TS-570D.  If you have the list of the proper TS-570D settings, please provide those to me.

Other help is appreciated.

Best Regards,
Chuck Atkinson, KE5VLX
Hi Chuck,

to transmit Tx audio in AFSK digital modes on the TS-570 the audio should be applied to the ACC socket on pin 11 (PKD) and the PTT should be applied on ACC socket pin 9 (PKS). *Only* with that configuration is the mic input muted. The SignaLink USB should be doing exactly what is required if it is correctly configured and connected.

If the OM has a CAT connection then I recommend setting "Settings->Radio->PTT Method->VOX" to ensure that the SignaLink USB is in sole charge of PTT.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked WSJTX and a Ten-Tec Orion II, Ten-Tec 712 USB to Din sound card #WSJTX_config

Paul Mitchell
 

Dear Group members, thank you for allowing me to join.  I am still in the progress of setting up my radio station for FT-8 and am awaiting a USB to serial adaptor for the Data Port on the rear of the Orion II.  I have had limited success in decoding with the Ten Tec 712 sound card connected to the Aux I/O port, though no TX at this stage as I am awaiting the USB to serial cable.

Before I go down this rabbit hole much further.  I am sure others would have been here before me and may say Paul, stop where you here is the fix and set-up you require.

PC:  Apple iMac running OSX 10.15.6
RAM 32 GBytes
I also have Parallels which will allow me to run Windows 10.
Transceiver a Ten-Tec Orion II.
Sound Card: Ten-Tec USB to Din 712
Digital has been something I was going to get around to one day.  Well with the current COVID restrictions and my ears full of CW I thought I would give digital a go.

Any and all help required for an easy setup.

I was hoping to use the 712 though I do not think the software has this option.  Any and all links to hardware that I will have to purchase very much appreciated.

Thank you for your time.

Warm regards,

Mitch.


locked Re: TS570D/Signal Link/WSJT-X

Al Rusnak
 

Check your sound card selection and audio levels. The audio levels need to be high enough to trigger the radio.


Al Rusnak, KE6JAC

On Aug 21, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Chuck Atkinson <ckatk120@...> wrote:


My friend, KC5GFL, has been successfully using WSJT-X with his Kenwood TS-570D using a Tigertronics SignaLink interface for several years.

Since recently receiving his TS-570D back from the repair shop, he has been unable to transmit using digital modes. He can receive and decode. The problem he is experiencing is that upon clicking "Enable TX" the TS-570D microphone is activated and a digital transmission does not take place.

The assumption is that the problem is caused by a setting in the TS-570D. If you have the list of the proper TS-570D settings, please provide those to me.

Other help is appreciated.

Best Regards,
Chuck Atkinson, KE5VLX



locked Re: Question about the FT8 Waterfall

John
 

Thanks Bill, that did it
John

Hi John,

the waterfall time stamps only print if there is room, try decreasing the "N Avg" control on the Wide Graph to slow down the waterfall.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



    


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locked Re: Question about the FT8 Waterfall

John
 

Yes on both
John

    
On 8/21/2020 4:08 PM, D. Scott MacKenzie wrote:

You using the default color scheme on the waterfall?  That has the time stamp

 

Scott aka KB0FHP



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locked TS570D/Signal Link/WSJT-X

Chuck Atkinson
 

My friend, KC5GFL, has been successfully using WSJT-X with his Kenwood TS-570D using a Tigertronics SignaLink interface for several years.

Since recently receiving his TS-570D back from the repair shop, he has been unable to transmit using digital modes.  He can receive and decode.  The problem he is experiencing is that upon clicking "Enable TX" the TS-570D microphone is activated and a digital transmission does not take place.

The assumption is that the problem is caused by a setting in the TS-570D.  If you have the list of the proper TS-570D settings, please provide those to me.

Other help is appreciated.

Best Regards,
Chuck Atkinson, KE5VLX



locked Re: Usage of the Reply message type in UDP datagram

Bill Somerville
 

Hi Steve,

comments in line below.

On 22/08/2020 01:25, n6vl via groups.io wrote:
To Bill Somerville: What is the proper Id value for inbound datagrams. All the outbound messages use "WSJT-X" as the Id value. Somehow I suspect a client application might use a different value. Most of the messages refer to Id as (unique key).
Anything you like, the only requirement is that it is the same for all messages sent in a session.

Do you have any code examples for the Reply message? I'll need all parameters.
The parameters are documented in the NetworkMessage.hpp file.

The Reply message Id value is documented as (target unique key), which is a different description than the other message types.
See above.
In addition to Id, the Reply message has more a parameters: Time, snr, Delta time (S), Delta frequency, Mode, Message, Low confidence, and Modifier. Most of these parameters are also present in the Decode message. My suspicion is the Reply message uses these parameters and tries to match with a prior Decode message and then initiates a transmit in WSJT-X.
You are correct, all the fields from the decoded CQ (or QRZ) message must be sent back to initiate a QSO with that station.

WSJT-X ships with two UDP Message Protocol reference applications, the message_aggregator one exercises all of the WSJT-X UDP Message Protocol messages. Source code is here:

https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx/ci/master/tree/UDPExamples/MessageAggregator.cpp


de Steve N6VL
73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: Usage of the Reply message type in UDP datagram

n6vl
 

To Bill Somerville: What is the proper Id value for inbound datagrams. All the outbound messages use "WSJT-X" as the Id value. Somehow I suspect a client application might use a different value. Most of the messages refer to Id as (unique key).

Do you have any code examples for the Reply message? I'll need all parameters.

The Reply message Id value is documented as (target unique key), which is a different description than the other message types.
In addition to Id, the Reply message has more a parameters: Time, snr, Delta time (S), Delta frequency, Mode, Message, Low confidence, and Modifier. Most of these parameters are also present in the Decode message. My suspicion is the Reply message uses these parameters and tries to match with a prior Decode message and then initiates a transmit in WSJT-X.

de Steve N6VL


locked Re: Usage of the Reply message type in UDP datagram

n6vl
 
Edited

Glenn,

Explain what you mean by internet side and not radio side. I'd like to see traffic both directions, but Wireshark doesn't show which direction.

So I ran Wireshark while JTAlert was running. Had JTAlert answer a CQ, but could see any evidence of a datagram sent from JTAlert. I assume JTAlert is using the UDP interface. But I'm able to see a datagram sent from a test program I wrote. I think Wireshark treats all datagrams the same regardless of direction.

de Steve N6VL