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locked Re: 2.3.0-rc1 on macOS stalls

George J Molnar, KF2T
 

Can vouch for that issue. After a long period of operation, WSJT-X 2.3.0-rc1 does lock up. Looks more like after a large number of decodes rather than a specific time. 
Mac OS 11 Big Sur beta


locked WSJT-X instance call another instance #FT8

Amos Sobel 4X4MF
 

I am using 4 instances of WSJT-X v2.2.2 and JTAlert 2.12.14 and my system does sometime run into the following problem:
When calling a station on instance 3 my call s reflected on instance  4 as if that station is calling myself.
I did first suspect the Flex 6600 radio but I did manage to solve the problem in WSJT-X this way:
Rename directory C:\Users\myself\AppData\Local\WSJT-X - 4
Start instance 4 and re-do all parameters.

I assume this bug an reappear but we know how to handle it.
Bill, please prevent it from reappearing.

Amos 4X4MF


locked Re: Trouble setting up CAT path to FlexRadio #WSJTX_config

F8RZ
 

Hello !

This is F8RZ.

I have rig : FlexRadio 6xxx

                 Network:    :5002 (yes, nothing before ":")

                  PTT method :      CAT

It works perfectly.

FWIW

73 JR

Le 28/10/2020 à 10:44, Dave Garber a écrit :

I used the 127.0.0.1.  And the 5002.  But it must be as
127.0.0.1:5002 format

sent by my LG phone

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 1:00 AM Amos Sobel 4X4MF, <asobel@...> wrote:

John

 

  1. Try the local IP, 127.0.0.1
  2. Use Kenwood TS-2000 and serial ports.

Amos 4X4MF

 

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of John (na0a)
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 12:57 AM
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] Trouble setting up CAT path to FlexRadio #WSJTX_config

 

I have a FlexRadio 6600M and trying to install wstj. In the wsjt Setting -> Radio menu I have entered the IP address of my computer xxx.xxx.x.x:5011.  Then set the Flex SmartSDR CAT to the 5011 port and click on the "Test CAT" button. The button turns red and I get the following error message "Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to rig"  which is not very informative. 

Any thought on why this is happening and possible solutions?








locked Re: Compensating RX audio delay

Bill Somerville
 

On 28/10/2020 13:49, Andy TALBOT wrote:
You could set EME delay on.   That will delay the start of Rx  by roughly 2 seconds.

Hi Andy,

that doesn't work for FT8.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: "Dimension 4"

Larry N8QNM
 

OK I'm switching from Dimension4 to Meinberg. Does one just uninstall Dimension4 like any other program? Or do you have to reenable Windows time server before installing Meinberg?

Larry N8QNM 


locked Re: Compensating RX audio delay

Andy Talbot
 

You could set EME delay on.   That will delay the start of Rx  by roughly 2 seconds.


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locked Re: Couple of questions that would help me out! #FT8

 

 

Bill,

 

The big obstacle to a database as you suggest, is that some legislations allow people to use the plain call at another location without the need to sign say /A. Also the FCC allow continental hams to use their call in other DXCCs such as KL, KH or KP4.

 

Databases do exist that map calls that could be a number of DXCCs, such as GB or VP8, to the specific DXCC.  

 

73 Phil GM3ZZA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill Somerville
Sent: 28 October 2020 11:24
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Couple of questions that would help me out! #ft8

 

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locked Re: Couple of questions that would help me out! #FT8

john ni0k
 

I printed the color setup window that shows the definitions of the colors. I keep that printout handy to refer to.--
73,
-de John NI0K
https://www.qrz.com/db/NI0K


d_ziolkowski wrote on 10/28/2020 7:51 AM:

Bill yes I have spent  a lot of time looking at the colors in WSJTX, I tried several schemes to get it to match JTAlert colors but i gave up. i just found it too confusing, and as i said before, i could not keep the different colors straight, I'm sure its me, I'm sure others find it very useful. 
also I apologize for saying the colors are not band specific, as they are. 

Dan KC2STA

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 7:25 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
On 28/10/2020 11:12, d_ziolkowski wrote:
I do not believe the colors in wsjtx are band specific, in jtalert they are. 

Dan KC2STA

Dan,

have you even bothered to look at the "Settings->Colors" panel in WSJT-X?

73
Bill
G4WJS.






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SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX





locked Re: Compensating RX audio delay

Bill Somerville
 

On 28/10/2020 10:26, Stefan HB9TMC wrote:
Hi,

I use an SDR for receiving, which introduces an audio delay of 1.6 to 2.0 seconds. (KiwiSDR; Using "abuf" parameters I can bring the delay down to ~1 sec, but that causes other problems)
This isn't a problem for WSPR and works mostly well for FT8, but sometimes (for example if someones clock is a bit too late), it doesn't decode. FST4W also seem to be picky about time accuracy.

I could set the computer clock to 2 sec late, which would solve the receiving/decoding. But that would cause trouble when transmitting

Does anyone have a tip on how I could solve the problem (for example tell WSJT-X to start decoding 2 sec later)

Thanks, 73,
Stefan
Hi Stefan,

that's too much latency. If you are receive only you can adjust your system clock to compensate but for Tx and Rx you are out of spec for using WSJT-X.

I often use an SDRPlay RSPduo with the accompanying SDRuno console software, that has about 350 mS of Rx latency, which is about the practical limit for HF FT8 use. The recently introduced FT8early decoding passes rely on Rx latencies no higher than that sort of level, with latencies higher than about 400 mS the FT8 decoding algorithm is compromised.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: Couple of questions that would help me out! #FT8

d_ziolkowski
 

Bill yes I have spent  a lot of time looking at the colors in WSJTX, I tried several schemes to get it to match JTAlert colors but i gave up. i just found it too confusing, and as i said before, i could not keep the different colors straight, I'm sure its me, I'm sure others find it very useful. 
also I apologize for saying the colors are not band specific, as they are. 

Dan KC2STA

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 7:25 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
On 28/10/2020 11:12, d_ziolkowski wrote:
I do not believe the colors in wsjtx are band specific, in jtalert they are. 

Dan KC2STA

Dan,

have you even bothered to look at the "Settings->Colors" panel in WSJT-X?

73
Bill
G4WJS.






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SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX


locked Compensating RX audio delay

Stefan HB9TMC
 

Hi,

I use an SDR for receiving, which introduces an audio delay of 1.6 to 2.0 seconds. (KiwiSDR; Using "abuf" parameters I can bring the delay down to ~1 sec, but that causes other problems)
This isn't a problem for WSPR and works mostly well for FT8, but sometimes (for example if someones clock is a bit too late), it doesn't decode. FST4W also seem to be picky about time accuracy.

I could set the computer clock to 2 sec late, which would solve the receiving/decoding. But that would cause trouble when transmitting

Does anyone have a tip on how I could solve the problem (for example tell WSJT-X to start decoding 2 sec later)

Thanks, 73,
Stefan


locked Re: Couple of questions that would help me out! #FT8

Bill Somerville
 

On 28/10/2020 11:12, d_ziolkowski wrote:
I do not believe the colors in wsjtx are band specific, in jtalert they are. 

Dan KC2STA

Dan,

have you even bothered to look at the "Settings->Colors" panel in WSJT-X?

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: Couple of questions that would help me out! #FT8

Bill Somerville
 

On 27/10/2020 23:57, John K9JMS wrote:
Two quick questions. One, are colors band specific? Two, is there any toggle that will let you see the state and not just USA. Ok, maybe one more question: Anything I'm not finding that will highlight needed states, like in JAlert? JAlert still makes me search all the CQs on WSJT-X to find a highlighted needed state. Thank you.
Hi John,

go to the "Settings->Colors" panel to see the highlighting options. As you will see there; highlighting new things per band or overall are both available.

WSJT-X does not have US State highlighting. This is mainly due to there being no readily available database in a suitable format that maps US calls to US States. A secondary reason is that even though WAS is a popular objective, it is rather geographically limited. If anyone were to contribute an accurate, well maintained database of *all* primary sub-entities Worldwide; then I'm sure such a source could form the basis of an excellent objective for DXers, after all main regional variants are already expressed as awards (WAS, DL Doks, JA Prefectures, UK Counties, Oblasts of Russia and many others, ...).

JTAlert and other applications that interoperate with WSJT-X are able to initiate QSOs with callers without having to locate the their CQ message in the Band Activity decodes window. E.g. with JTAlert (assuming "Settings->Reporting->Accept UDP requests" is checked in WSJT-X) you can simply left-click the call in the alerts panel to initiate a QSO.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: Couple of questions that would help me out! #FT8

d_ziolkowski
 

john- 

re your other questions-

no you can't see states in wsjtx, again jtalert is your friend here. settings , wanted us states. 

I do not believe the colors in wsjtx are band specific, in jtalert they are. 

Dan KC2STA

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 7:58 PM John K9JMS <k9jms.fl@...> wrote:
Two quick questions. One, are colors band specific? Two, is there any toggle that will let you see the state and not just USA. Ok, maybe one more question: Anything I'm not finding that will highlight needed states, like in JAlert? JAlert still makes me search all the CQs on WSJT-X to find a highlighted needed state. Thank you.




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SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX


locked Re: Couple of questions that would help me out! #FT8

d_ziolkowski
 

John-

with jtAlert,  in either the callsign display or decodes window, just click the call sign you want to work. 

No need to search the wsjtx window. 

The decodes window is very useful, as the callsigns don't disappear after the cycle is over. Bring is up with F9, or see the view menu. 

as for the wsjtx colors, i only have active is "my call in message' and "transmitted message'. other wise its too many colors which I can't remember anyway. 

try it!

Dan KC2STA

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 7:58 PM John K9JMS <k9jms.fl@...> wrote:
Two quick questions. One, are colors band specific? Two, is there any toggle that will let you see the state and not just USA. Ok, maybe one more question: Anything I'm not finding that will highlight needed states, like in JAlert? JAlert still makes me search all the CQs on WSJT-X to find a highlighted needed state. Thank you.




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SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX


locked Re: Trouble setting up CAT path to FlexRadio #WSJTX_config

Dave Garber
 

I used the 127.0.0.1.  And the 5002.  But it must be as
127.0.0.1:5002 format

sent by my LG phone


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 1:00 AM Amos Sobel 4X4MF, <asobel@...> wrote:

John

 

  1. Try the local IP, 127.0.0.1
  2. Use Kenwood TS-2000 and serial ports.

Amos 4X4MF

 

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of John (na0a)
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 12:57 AM
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] Trouble setting up CAT path to FlexRadio #WSJTX_config

 

I have a FlexRadio 6600M and trying to install wstj. In the wsjt Setting -> Radio menu I have entered the IP address of my computer xxx.xxx.x.x:5011.  Then set the Flex SmartSDR CAT to the 5011 port and click on the "Test CAT" button. The button turns red and I get the following error message "Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to rig"  which is not very informative. 

Any thought on why this is happening and possible solutions?





locked Re: 30m FST4 and FST4W

Philip Williams <ka1gmn@...>
 

All,
Tonight, I am running FST4W-300 on 80M (3.568800 MHz) if anyone is interested.  This is the first night where my signal has been successfully decoded (see http://wsprd.vk7jj.com/).  I am have an all nighter to work, so I'll keep the beacon on.  

73,

Phil de W1ZOT



On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 8:04 PM Kenji Rikitake <jj1bdx@...> wrote:

Putting FST4W +200Hz above WSPR makes sense to me. Thanks for info! Kenji Rikitake, JJ1BDX

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 09:53 PM, M7PGW wrote:

no 200hz

WSPR 10.138,700 FST4W 10.138,900

73 peter M7PGW

On Sun, 25/10/2020 21:24, Gary E. Kohtala via groups.io wrote: > Didn't you mean 2000 hz? > > Best regards, > > Gary, K7EK > On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 04:01:26 PM EDT, M7PGW > peter.white@... wrote: > > > suggested for fst4wvare 200hz above wspr > > peter > > On Sun, 25/10/2020 13:23, Kenji Rikitake wrote: > > Any frequency suggestions for 30m FST4 and FST4W? > > 73 de Kenji Rikitake, JJ1BDX > >


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locked Re: For Joe, Bill...

Svein Henriksen
 

I should think so. It would be something like interpreting handwriting.

I am not a programmer and only have experience with machine learning in a theoretical capacity as the director of an R&D department working with such technologies in a totally different field.

You know, old experienced professional “sparks” on ships could recognize the person transmitting purely from his cW “handwriting”.

 

So yes, I think it would be possible.

 

However, as others have pointed out in this thread, there are already very good Cw decode programs out there. To what degree a system using ANN, or some variety of this technology, would seriously improve the decoding I do not know.

 

73 de Svein

LA3PU

 

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Rose via groups.io
Sent: tirsdag 27. oktober 2020 22:05
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] For Joe, Bill...

 

Svein,

 

Once you have trained such a device, could you then use it in real time to allow interpretation of Morse?

 

73 Phil GM3ZZA

 

On 27 Oct 2020 20:32, Svein Henriksen <la3pu@...> wrote:

Cold be made very mathematical but would entail ANN (artificial neural network) programming and could be initially difficult to train the model well.

But would be a typical application for ANN.

 

73 de Svein

LA3PU

 

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of Philip Rose via groups.io
Sent: tirsdag 27. oktober 2020 14:14
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] For Joe, Bill...

 

Hi John,

 

Decoding manual CW is not a particularly mathematical problem. The problem will be working out what are dots and dashes and inter-letter breaks, especially if the sender is not particularly consistent with speed. For example, CQ sent without an inter-letter break – your brain recognises it as CQ, but no mechanical process would. An AI approach is possibly a way to go, if you can find suitable vast amount of training data that has the equivalent text, but I think would require an inordinate amount of processing power. (And I don’t think generating pseudo-manual code with slight randomising of symbol length will generate valid training data.)

 

I found I could just about get fldigi to read my code sent on a straight key, after a few minutes. I found it quite hard work.

 

73 Phil GM3ZZA.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JP Tucson, AZ
Sent: 27 October 2020 02:12
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] For Joe, Bill...

 

Hi guys,

Have an request.

Joe, with your crazy math skills and already existing talents in digital noise reduction, etc.; would you please create a much better CW  decoder!

See I, and many folks like me, have asymmetrical hearing loss & tinnitus from working around jets in the Navy, etc.. As such, my hearing prevents me from hearing cw right - it just all becomes noise & a blurry mess in my head.

So it it would really be nice if there was a far superior cw decoder with the ability to decode as well as FT8.  I have tried many of the packages available for pc-win 10, none of them work very well. Lots of t's & e's... in other words, more noise than conversion.

I think it would be really cool if you could manage to not only decode well, but do so in a broad band fashion as with wsjtx & decode several signals at once & & display callsigns for quick ID'ing.

It would really help. Thanks & 73

John - N7GHZ

 


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locked Re: Trouble setting up CAT path to FlexRadio #WSJTX_config

Amos Sobel 4X4MF
 

John

 

  1. Try the local IP, 127.0.0.1
  2. Use Kenwood TS-2000 and serial ports.

Amos 4X4MF

 

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of John (na0a)
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 12:57 AM
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] Trouble setting up CAT path to FlexRadio #WSJTX_config

 

I have a FlexRadio 6600M and trying to install wstj. In the wsjt Setting -> Radio menu I have entered the IP address of my computer xxx.xxx.x.x:5011.  Then set the Flex SmartSDR CAT to the 5011 port and click on the "Test CAT" button. The button turns red and I get the following error message "Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to rig"  which is not very informative. 

Any thought on why this is happening and possible solutions?


locked Re: Continuing problem, WSJT-X fails to decode

Russ Ravella
 
Edited

HI Bill,
 
Following up on this, I’ve been off the air for a few days but fired up WSJT-X today and got another freeze.  I’m sending you the last three .wav files that were saved consistent with your request below.  To me they just sound like normal audio and seem to terminate normally.  WSJT-X was up and frozen when I grabbed them and after I did, and closed WSJT-X, I checked and no more .wav files had been written.  I also took a short video showing WSJT-X with the waterfall frozen but the 15-sec timer still running and Flex DAX showing audio still being generated by the radio (that is, the radio and audio connection weren't frozen).  Being a video file, I won’t attach it here in case you’d rather I sent it via another means.
 
I’ve been getting these freezes since at least the first V2 and maybe before.  I can’t correlate them to anything.  During that time I’ve had four different Flex radios (quality is not a Flex Radio attribute - software or hardware) and several revisions of SSDR, CAT, DAX and Windows 10 software (I’m on 2004 now) running on three different fast laptops each set up from scratch.  I don’t use any third party AV software as they’re all basically malware themselves. The freezes seem to just “happen”.  Sometimes closing and restarting WSJT-X fixes it and sometimes I have to restart the whole computer.  I’ve lost at least one potential ATNO due to this.
 
Thanks for helping as always !
Russ KR6W
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


On Oct 17, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Russ Ravella <rus5@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill and Bruce,
 
I see it now.  microsoft apparently decided to re-hide my system files during the last update and “AppData” wasn’t showing or being included in searches.  Fixed now.
 
I happened to actually be in the no-decode state when I saw Ed’s post and your response.  The program controls are still responsive when this happens but the waterfall and input meter are frozen and of course no decodes come in.  I’m running a Flex 6700 (SDR 3.1.12, Win10 2004) and DAX is responsive while WSJT-X decodes are frozen.  Restarting DAX anyway doesn’t help.
 
So I set “Save all” for a few progress bar cycles and checked but out of a zillion files there were none covering that period.  Obviously the file doesn’t get generated when decodes are frozen and “Save” was off (somehow?) when it happened this time.  I’ve stopped and relaunched WSJT-X, it’s un-frozen again, and I’ve got “Save All” re-enabled.  So when it happens again I’ll grab the latest file and send it to you.
 
Thanks for the help !
Russ KR6W


On Oct 17, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Bruce N7XGR <n7xgr1@...> wrote:

Russ,  Here it is located,  C:\Users\YourName\AppData\Local\WSJT-X\save
 
Bruce  N7XGR

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 6:25 PM Russ Ravella via groups.io <rus5=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I have often had this problem too and have reported it.  In my case, sometimes restarting WSJT-X does fix it though often only for a few minutes.  I also don’t believe it has anything to do with my computer h/w (it’s now happened with three totally different computers) and I don’t believe it’s my radio (I’ve had five during the period I’ve had the problem) or how its configured or connected (again, there have been many cases).  I would like to also send you my saved.WAV file but I can’t find a file named “saved.WAV” anywhere on my computer after checking Menu>Save>Save all” from which to pick a good non-decode period.  Could you please elaborate just slightly ?

Thanks,
Russ KR6W

> On Oct 17, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
> 
> On 17/10/2020 20:22, lmeeny wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I've been off the air for 5 days now with a problem vexing many members of the group, WSJT-X stops decoding after working properly for months on end.
>> 
>> The following conditions are true:
>> 
>> My computer clock is properly synced every 40 minutes. I've used two different NTP time sync programs and both check fine against time.is. When working properly WSJT-X displays dt values varying +/- 0.2 sec around 0.0 sec.
>> 
>> Signals are displayed on the waterfall and amplitude on the main window vertical tape display varies reflecting waterfall signal strengths. Waterfall signals can be saved to .wav files and listened to but not decoded when opened by using the file menu. Stored examples can be decoded.
>> 
>> Measured latency values cluster around 1000  usec, (is this too long?) with occasional peaks well above 5000 usec. but the times between spikes are much longer than, for instance, the duration of a FT4 or FT8 received transmission. On FT8 these spikes I believe are responsible for the occasional "0 decode" count. Repeated cycling between STOP and MONITOR or Powering off and restarting / rebooting the PC have no affect.
>> 
>> Repeatedly closing and opening WSJT-X has no affect. CPU usage, according to Task Manager, varies around 5%.
>> 
>> USB ports are not put to sleep.
>> 
>> The cause or causes appears to be independent of computer OS, hardware or WSJT-X version.  That this failure happens to so many people seems significant.  Is there a single cause or many? What can we do collectively to help fix this! Can the WSJT-X programmers add temporary hooks in the software to flag where the failure(s) occurs?
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Ed W2GHD
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> if you check the "Menu->Save->Save all" option then pick a good example of a non-decode period and send us the saved .WAV file for analysis please?
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
> 
> 
>