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locked Re: 30 meters?

blitz716
 

Ill try tomorrow.
Dave and I sat on 40m, tonite, I found out a had an old copy of WSJTX and on upgrade, I was able to copy a couple guys  incoming. I sent cq for a while, and observed myself on my service monitor but by then the band went out on us. Ill try tomorrow.
160m is totally worthless here. Too much HV insulator arc-over noise.
Regards,
Steve KC2UK

John - kc2rxs wrote:

Steve,

There is also some activity on 10m at 28.078, I made a contact to France today with 1w.

Good Luck, John - kc2rxs


On 11/16/2012 9:40 PM, blitz716 wrote:
 

I can concur with all that Mike, but job #1 is to get a signal, see what it looks like and commence a contact, even IF its not under conditions the mode may very well be able to support.
Right now Ive not 'seen' a signal, (heard some via ear, I believe) but not one copied, or returned to me.
Once I figure how the engine starts, I'm more than willing to test drive it.
Steve -KC2UK

Mike Armstrong wrote:

I hear you..... But I guess my real point is that this particular mode was and is being designed with high noise as its reason for living..... Which is not a bad reason for living on 160 and 80, too for that matter.

I understand that 160 is out for some folks.  I live in the middle of Phoenix, AZ on a typical postage stamp lot.  I AM lucky that my next door neighbor happens to be my mother in law (it really IS an advantage.... She is sweet) and I am using the palm tree in her front yard as the bitter end of my 160 L antenna, which also serves as a half wave on 80 and a long wire for all bands above that.  It works well, either as an L on 160 or as an OCFD with the feedpoint closer to the shack.  It is only 40 feet high, but I did pretty well in last year's CQWW 160 with it playing as a hasty OCFD.  You would think the thing would have been terrible, but in less than 48 hours I had worked 38 states AND 9 countries, includ! ing JAPAN AND CHILE, not to mention Hawaii, Alaska and several countries in the Caribbean.  Think about my antenna for a moment and you will know why I was astounded by the result.  Oh..... I didn't have a low noise receive antenna.... If I had used one I think I would have collected a few more..... There were people answering me that I just couldn't quite dig out of the noise.

The above was just to let you know that I am not sitting on 40 acres or have 4000 foot long beverages or anything like that.  In fact, for the Inverted-L I only have one radial at the moment, but it gets out quote well in that configuration..... Seems to be better than the OCFD way of using it.  So ,yes, I understand LIMITS on acreage and line-noise being exuded by the high tension lines behind my property.  I am just saying that those kinds of limits should be what makes this mode really sing.  Like the poor guys living in apartments who are usi! ng mobile antennas and 25 watts to work DX with psk or JT-65hf..... Th ey are getting out and having a ball doing it because of what these new modes allow...... I say, even if you have to use a 160 meter mobile whip, give it a shot.  This mode may astound us all, just like his other modes have on the higher bands...... With no antenna and no power..... Know what I mean? 

 Not pickin', just sayin' we should really give this puppy a real workout and see what the limits are..... It may end up redefining what is doable on 160 (or 80 for that matter) when you don't have room for the ultimate ON4UN antenna farm..... Or 1000000 foot long beverages..... He he he

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 16, 2012, at 16:56,! blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

Problem IS, 160 is NOT an option for many of us in urban environs.
I for example could hear you guys last night on 160 by ear, but the pulsating line noise (insulator arc-over) made decoding impossible. Period, end of story.
Perhaps we can try a higher band, like 80m but as far as 160 goes, for some of us It's just going to happen.

Mike Armstrong wrote:
Guys, please remember tho that the high noise environment is the reason for these modes.  If you are in a low noise environment, you would be better served with a faster digital mode that can take advantage of that lower noise environment.  Know what I mean?  :)

My thought here is to give it a go ESPECIALLY when you have noise on 160 (and who doesn't?).... Give this mode a real shakedown under worst case conditions and see what it can do.  Low power, less that perfect antennas, HIGH NOISE and 160 meters...... What a combo..... He he he.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 15, 2012, at 14:57, blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

160 is terribly noisy for me here, Im in the city and the only time its usable is mid winter.
is anyone doing JT9 on 30 meters? If so what freq, Id like to try tonight to see someone. Im assuming it would be JT9-2?



locked Re: 30 meters?

blitz716
 

Mike,
I come to find out theres a newer version, I downloaded/installed it and noticed two things, first the dark blue initial waterfall screen stayed put unlike the prev version which changed randomly & relegated viewing the waterfall useless. The default pallets are of no use to one like me with impaired vision. Second, I finally copied some of the 'ear-heard' stations, (nothing wrong in my audio dept) and decoded them fine.
By this time, Dave & I were not hearing each other, and the band had gone out on us.
160 is trash here, not going there, might use 80 and 40 and hopefully 30m daytime. I'll try 160 in deep cold winter when its quiet, but its not viable now.
I think I accomplished getting both tx and rx up tonite, i got online reports i was seen and decoded, and i got two hams decoding on rx on my end. Things looking up.
Will screw with it more tomorrow, progress made. :-)


Mike Armstrong wrote:

Steve, that is true..... If you aren't getting it to decode under good conditions, then it isn't ready for prime time testing on the band(s) it was really intended for.  Good point! Maybe we can try to wet-noodle-antenna on 160 later. :). Got to get the software to work well first!  Which, by the way, I haven't yet.  I am thinking operator error on this end since I haven't gotten a successful passive decode yet.  I won't say there is anything wrong with the software until I am certain I didn't do something boneheaded first.  

That much I know from my long career in IT :)

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 16, 2012, at 19:40! , blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

I can concur with all that Mike, but job #1 is to get a signal, see what it looks like and commence a contact, even IF its not under conditions the mode may very well be able to support.
Right now Ive not 'seen' a signal, (heard some via ear, I believe) but not one copied, or returned to me.
Once I figure how the engine starts, I'm more than willing to test drive it.
Steve -KC2UK

Mike Armstrong wrote:
I hear you..... But I guess my real point is that this particular mode was and is being designed with high noise as its reason for living..... Which is not a bad reason for living on 160 and 80, too for that matter.

I understand that 160 is out for some folks.  I live in the middle of Phoenix, AZ on a typical postage stamp lot.  I AM lucky that my next door neighbor happens to be my mother in law (it really IS an advantage.... She is sweet) and I am using the palm tree in her front yard as the bitter end of my 160 L antenna, which also serves as a half wave on 80 and a long wire for all bands above that.  It works well, either as an L on 160 or as an OCFD with the feedpoint closer to the shack.  It is only 40 feet high, but I did pretty well in last year's CQWW 160 with it playing as a hasty OCFD.  You would think the thing would have been terrible, but in less than 48 hours I had worked 38 states AND 9 countries, includ! ing JAPAN AND CHILE, not to mention Hawaii, Alaska and several countries in the Caribbean.  Think about my antenna for a moment and you will know why I was astounded by the result.  Oh..... I didn't have a low noise receive antenna.... If I had used one I think I would have collected a few more..... There were people answering me that I just couldn't quite dig out of the noise.

The above was just to let you know that I am not sitting on 40 acres or have 4000 foot long beverages or anything like that.  In fact, for the Inverted-L I only have one radial at the moment, but it gets out quote well in that configuration..... Seems to be better than the OCFD way of using it.  So ,yes, I understand LIMITS on acreage and line-noise being exuded by the high tension lines behind my property.  I am just saying that those kinds of limits should be what makes this mode really sing.  Like the poor guys living in apartments who are usi! ng mobile antennas and 25 watts to work DX with psk or JT-65hf..... Th ey are getting out and having a ball doing it because of what these new modes allow...... I say, even if you have to use a 160 meter mobile whip, give it a shot.  This mode may astound us all, just like his other modes have on the higher bands...... With no antenna and no power..... Know what I mean? 

 Not pickin', just sayin' we should really give this puppy a real workout and see what the limits are..... It may end up redefining what is doable on 160 (or 80 for that matter) when you don't have room for the ultimate ON4UN antenna farm..... Or 1000000 foot long beverages..... He he he

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 16, 2012, at 16:56,! blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

Problem IS, 160 is NOT an option for many of us in urban environs.
I for example could hear you guys last night on 160 by ear, but the pulsating line noise (insulator arc-over) made decoding impossible. Period, end of story.
Perhaps we can try a higher band, like 80m but as far as 160 goes, for some of us It's just going to happen.

Mike Armstrong wrote:
Guys, please remember tho that the high noise environment is the reason for these modes.  If you are in a low noise environment, you would be better served with a faster digital mode that can take advantage of that lower noise environment.  Know what I mean?  :)

My thought here is to give it a go ESPECIALLY when you have noise on 160 (and who doesn't?).... Give this mode a real shakedown under worst case conditions and see what it can do.  Low power, less that perfect antennas, HIGH NOISE and 160 meters...... What a combo..... He he he.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 15, 2012, at 14:57, blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

160 is terribly noisy for me here, Im in the city and the only time its usable is mid winter.
is anyone doing JT9 on 30 meters? If so what freq, Id like to try tonight to see someone. Im assuming it would be JT9-2?


locked Re: 30 meters?

Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Steve, you might, at some point, give the power company a call and let them know there is an issue.  If they have some experience, they will get right on it normally..... Because that arcing is power being wasted that nobody is paying for...... If they aren't experienced, you may have to try to help them df it.  Since you didn't mention it bothering other bands, it is probably some distance from you qth, so you would have to DF it with a vhf rig (once you are fairly close to the arc).  

Believe it or not, hi-tension lines are usually the quietest lines and for good reason..... Arcing there costs serious money and can damage equipment.  Again, just a suggestion.  I have a pretty good relationship with "my" power company..... I live in an older neighborhood and ot has problems on a fairly regular basis.  When I call them now, they take me very seriously (and not in a threatening sense.... They know that when I call, there really is a problem).  In my case, 160 and 80 seem to get hammered first...... 40, for some reason seems to get skipped almost always.... 20 and 17 are usually pretty bad and 15/10 usually experience no noise on any occasion.  Needless to say, that usually means the arc is some distance from my house..... I hear certain harmonics and not others.  

Anyway...... Good luck with the noise hunt, if you decide to don your hunting suit and radio-shotgun..... LOL.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 3:07, blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

Mike,
I come to find out theres a newer version, I downloaded/installed it and noticed two things, first the dark blue initial waterfall screen stayed put unlike the prev version which changed randomly & relegated viewing the waterfall useless. The default pallets are of no use to one like me with impaired vision. Second, I finally copied some of the 'ear-heard' stations, (nothing wrong in my audio dept) and decoded them fine.
By this time, Dave & I were not hearing each other, and the band had gone out on us.
160 is trash here, not going there, might use 80 and 40 and hopefully 30m daytime. I'll try 160 in deep cold winter when its quiet, but its not viable now.
I think I accomplished getting both tx and rx up tonite, i got online reports i was seen and decoded, and i got two hams decoding on rx on my end. Things looking up.
Will screw with it more tomorrow, progress made. :-)


Mike Armstrong wrote:
Steve, that is true..... If you aren't getting it to decode under good conditions, then it isn't ready for prime time testing on the band(s) it was really intended for.  Good point! Maybe we can try to wet-noodle-antenna on 160 later. :). Got to get the software to work well first!  Which, by the way, I haven't yet.  I am thinking operator error on this end since I haven't gotten a successful passive decode yet.  I won't say there is anything wrong with the software until I am certain I didn't do something boneheaded first.  

That much I know from my long career in IT :)

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 16, 2012, at 19:40! , blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

I can concur with all that Mike, but job #1 is to get a signal, see what it looks like and commence a contact, even IF its not under conditions the mode may very well be able to support.
Right now Ive not 'seen' a signal, (heard some via ear, I believe) but not one copied, or returned to me.
Once I figure how the engine starts, I'm more than willing to test drive it.
Steve -KC2UK

Mike Armstrong wrote:
I hear you..... But I guess my real point is that this particular mode was and is being designed with high noise as its reason for living..... Which is not a bad reason for living on 160 and 80, too for that matter.

I understand that 160 is out for some folks.  I live in the middle of Phoenix, AZ on a typical postage stamp lot.  I AM lucky that my next door neighbor happens to be my mother in law (it really IS an advantage.... She is sweet) and I am using the palm tree in her front yard as the bitter end of my 160 L antenna, which also serves as a half wave on 80 and a long wire for all bands above that.  It works well, either as an L on 160 or as an OCFD with the feedpoint closer to the shack.  It is only 40 feet high, but I did pretty well in last year's CQWW 160 with it playing as a hasty OCFD.  You would think the thing would have been terrible, but in less than 48 hours I had worked 38 states AND 9 countries, includ! ing JAPAN AND CHILE, not to mention Hawaii, Alaska and several countries in the Caribbean.  Think about my antenna for a moment and you will know why I was astounded by the result.  Oh..... I didn't have a low noise receive antenna.... If I had used one I think I would have collected a few more..... There were people answering me that I just couldn't quite dig out of the noise.

The above was just to let you know that I am not sitting on 40 acres or have 4000 foot long beverages or anything like that.  In fact, for the Inverted-L I only have one radial at the moment, but it gets out quote well in that configuration..... Seems to be better than the OCFD way of using it.  So ,yes, I understand LIMITS on acreage and line-noise being exuded by the high tension lines behind my property.  I am just saying that those kinds of limits should be what makes this mode really sing.  Like the poor guys living in apartments who are usi! ng mobile antennas and 25 watts to work DX with psk or JT-65hf..... Th ey are getting out and having a ball doing it because of what these new modes allow...... I say, even if you have to use a 160 meter mobile whip, give it a shot.  This mode may astound us all, just like his other modes have on the higher bands...... With no antenna and no power..... Know what I mean? 

 Not pickin', just sayin' we should really give this puppy a real workout and see what the limits are..... It may end up redefining what is doable on 160 (or 80 for that matter) when you don't have room for the ultimate ON4UN antenna farm..... Or 1000000 foot long beverages..... He he he

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 16, 2012, at 16:56,! blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

Problem IS, 160 is NOT an option for many of us in urban environs.
I for example could hear you guys last night on 160 by ear, but the pulsating line noise (insulator arc-over) made decoding impossible. Period, end of story.
Perhaps we can try a higher band, like 80m but as far as 160 goes, for some of us It's just going to happen.

Mike Armstrong wrote:
Guys, please remember tho that the high noise environment is the reason for these modes.  If you are in a low noise environment, you would be better served with a faster digital mode that can take advantage of that lower noise environment.  Know what I mean?  :)

My thought here is to give it a go ESPECIALLY when you have noise on 160 (and who doesn't?).... Give this mode a real shakedown under worst case conditions and see what it can do.  Low power, less that perfect antennas, HIGH NOISE and 160 meters...... What a combo..... He he he.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 15, 2012, at 14:57, blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

160 is terribly noisy for me here, Im in the city and the only time its usable is mid winter.
is anyone doing JT9 on 30 meters? If so what freq, Id like to try tonight to see someone. Im assuming it would be JT9-2?


locked Re: 30 meters?

blitz716
 

Our power company (National Grid) is a bunch of incompetents who cant manage to keep the streetlights on let alone find RFI.
When I file complaints, I'm lucky to even hear at all from them.
When I DO file a complaint, it goes to the FCC first. THEN I get a response.


Mike Armstrong wrote:

Steve, you might, at some point, give the power company a call and let them know there is an issue.  If they have some experience, they will get right on it normally..... Because that arcing is power being wasted that nobody is paying for...... If they aren't experienced, you may have to try to help them df it.  Since you didn't mention it bothering other bands, it is probably some distance from you qth, so you would have to DF it with a vhf rig (once you are fairly close to the arc).  

Believe it or not, hi-tension lines are usually the quietest lines and for good reason..... Arcing there costs serious money and can damage equipment.  Again, just a suggestion.  I have a pretty good relationship with "my" power company..... I live in an older neighborhood and ot has problems on a fairly regular basis.  When I call them now, they take me very seriously (and not in a threatening sense.... They know that when I call, t! here really is a problem).  In my case, 160 and 80 seem to get hammered first...... 40, for some reason seems to get skipped almost always.... 20 and 17 are usually pretty bad and 15/10 usually experience no noise on any occasion.  Needless to say, that usually means the arc is some distance from my house..... I hear certain harmonics and not others.  

Anyway...... Good luck with the noise hunt, if you decide to don your hunting suit and radio-shotgun..... LOL.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 3:07, blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

Mike,
I come to find out theres a newer version, I downloaded/installed it and noticed two things, first the dark blue initial waterfall screen stayed put unlike the prev version which changed randomly & relegated viewing the waterfall useless. The default pallets are of no use to one like me with impaired vision. Second, I finally copied some of the 'ear-heard' stations, (nothing wrong in my audio dept) and decoded them fine.
By this time, Dave & I were not hearing each other, and the band had gone out on us.
160 is trash here, not going there, might use 80 and 40 and hopefully 30m daytime. I'll try 160 in deep cold winter when its quiet, but its not viable now.
I think I accomplished getting both tx and rx up tonite, i got online reports i was seen and decoded, and i got two hams decoding on rx on my end. Things looking up.
Will screw with it more tomorrow, progress made. :-)


Mike Armstrong wrote:
Steve, that is true..... If you aren't getting it to decode under good conditions, then it isn't ready for prime time testing on the band(s) it was really intended for.  Good point! Maybe we can try to wet-noodle-antenna on 160 later. :). Got to get the software to work well first!  Which, by the way, I haven't yet.  I am thinking operator error on this end since I haven't gotten a successful passive decode yet.  I won't say there is anything wrong with the software until I am certain I didn't do something boneheaded first.  

That much I know from my long career in IT :)

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 16, 2012, at 19:40! , blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

I can concur with all that Mike, but job #1 is to get a signal, see what it looks like and commence a contact, even IF its not under conditions the mode may very well be able to support.
Right now Ive not 'seen' a signal, (heard some via ear, I believe) but not one copied, or returned to me.
Once I figure how the engine starts, I'm more than willing to test drive it.
Steve -KC2UK

Mike Armstrong wrote:
I hear you..... But I guess my real point is that this particular mode was and is being designed with high noise as its reason for living..... Which is not a bad reason for living on 160 and 80, too for that matter.

I understand that 160 is out for some folks.  I live in the middle of Phoenix, AZ on a typical postage stamp lot.  I AM lucky that my next door neighbor happens to be my mother in law (it really IS an advantage.... She is sweet) and I am using the palm tree in her front yard as the bitter end of my 160 L antenna, which also serves as a half wave on 80 and a long wire for all bands above that.  It works well, either as an L on 160 or as an OCFD with the feedpoint closer to the shack.  It is only 40 feet high, but I did pretty well in last year's CQWW 160 with it playing as a hasty OCFD.  You would think the thing would have been terrible, but in less than 48 hours I had worked 38 states AND 9 countries, includ! ing JAPAN AND CHILE, not to mention Hawaii, Alaska and several countries in the Caribbean.  Think about my antenna for a moment and you will know why I was astounded by the result.  Oh..... I didn't have a low noise receive antenna.... If I had used one I think I would have collected a few more..... There were people answering me that I just couldn't quite dig out of the noise.

The above was just to let you know that I am not sitting on 40 acres or have 4000 foot long beverages or anything like that.  In fact, for the Inverted-L I only have one radial at the moment, but it gets out quote well in that configuration..... Seems to be better than the OCFD way of using it.  So ,yes, I understand LIMITS on acreage and line-noise being exuded by the high tension lines behind my property.  I am just saying that those kinds of limits should be what makes this mode really sing.  Like the poor guys living in apartments who are usi! ng mobile antennas and 25 watts to work DX with psk or JT-65hf..... Th ey are getting out and having a ball doing it because of what these new modes allow...... I say, even if you have to use a 160 meter mobile whip, give it a shot.  This mode may astound us all, just like his other modes have on the higher bands...... With no antenna and no power..... Know what I mean? 

 Not pickin', just sayin' we should really give this puppy a real workout and see what the limits are..... It may end up redefining what is doable on 160 (or 80 for that matter) when you don't have room for the ultimate ON4UN antenna farm..... Or 1000000 foot long beverages..... He he he

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 16, 2012, at 16:56,! blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

Problem IS, 160 is NOT an option for many of us in urban environs.
I for example could hear you guys last night on 160 by ear, but the pulsating line noise (insulator arc-over) made decoding impossible. Period, end of story.
Perhaps we can try a higher band, like 80m but as far as 160 goes, for some of us It's just going to happen.

Mike Armstrong wrote:
Guys, please remember tho that the high noise environment is the reason for these modes.  If you are in a low noise environment, you would be better served with a faster digital mode that can take advantage of that lower noise environment.  Know what I mean?  :)

My thought here is to give it a go ESPECIALLY when you have noise on 160 (and who doesn't?).... Give this mode a real shakedown under worst case conditions and see what it can do.  Low power, less that perfect antennas, HIGH NOISE and 160 meters...... What a combo..... He he he.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 15, 2012, at 14:57, blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

160 is terribly noisy for me here, Im in the city and the only time its usable is mid winter.
is anyone doing JT9 on 30 meters? If so what freq, Id like to try tonight to see someone. Im assuming it would be JT9-2?


locked Topband

Sierra 7 <steve@...>
 

Having a mobile whip for 160 Metres in the loft (attic) my best dx on WSPR was about 3,700 KM. Sometimes the noise level is 59+10. I am so glad for this new mode from Joe, as it should allow even greater distances. Topband does not put me off at all. I shall be on 1839.5 on jt9x-2 tonight. 10 Mhz works so well that for me it is not a serious test of this new mode.

Steve


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Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Jeez Steve..... You seem to have one of those cases that is truly a worst case scenario..... Can't catch a break anywhere.  I wish the FCC had a stronger enforcement arm and by that I mean guys with guns who possess no sense of humor.  These power companies are radiating on frequencies that interfere with the primary users (you and me) in a most cavalier way.  This would seem, to anyone with half a brain, to be something the FCC would jump with all their feet.

Fortunately for me, our power companies seem to understand this concept and fall right in line.  Of course, it definitely helps that there are some hams working for those companies in positions of influence.  I can't believe that in this modern era your power company can't find a simple power "leak" and effectively "plug it."  Sheesh..... Well, maybe these new modes will help to eliminate some of the negative impact on us by allowing us to communicate even if bombarded by the continuous din of ILLEGAL 50/60 Hz spark gap transmitters on 160 (and everywhere else, for that matter).

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 10:40, blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

Our power company (National Grid) is a bunch of incompetents who cant manage to keep the streetlights on let alone find RFI.
When I file complaints, I'm lucky to even hear at all from them.
When I DO file a complaint, it goes to the FCC first. THEN I get a response.


Mike Armstrong wrote:
Steve, you might, at some point, give the power company a call and let them know there is an issue.  If they have some experience, they will get right on it normally..... Because that arcing is power being wasted that nobody is paying for...... If they aren't experienced, you may have to try to help them df it.  Since you didn't mention it bothering other bands, it is probably some distance from you qth, so you would have to DF it with a vhf rig (once you are fairly close to the arc).  

Believe it or not, hi-tension lines are usually the quietest lines and for good reason..... Arcing there costs serious money and can damage equipment.  Again, just a suggestion.  I have a pretty good relationship with "my" power company..... I live in an older neighborhood and ot has problems on a fairly regular basis.  When I call them now, they take me very seriously (and not in a threatening sense.... They know that when I call, t! here really is a problem).  In my case, 160 and 80 seem to get hammered first...... 40, for some reason seems to get skipped almost always.... 20 and 17 are usually pretty bad and 15/10 usually experience no noise on any occasion.  Needless to say, that usually means the arc is some distance from my house..... I hear certain harmonics and not others.  

Anyway...... Good luck with the noise hunt, if you decide to don your hunting suit and radio-shotgun..... LOL.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 3:07, blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

Mike,
I come to find out theres a newer version, I downloaded/installed it and noticed two things, first the dark blue initial waterfall screen stayed put unlike the prev version which changed randomly & relegated viewing the waterfall useless. The default pallets are of no use to one like me with impaired vision. Second, I finally copied some of the 'ear-heard' stations, (nothing wrong in my audio dept) and decoded them fine.
By this time, Dave & I were not hearing each other, and the band had gone out on us.
160 is trash here, not going there, might use 80 and 40 and hopefully 30m daytime. I'll try 160 in deep cold winter when its quiet, but its not viable now.
I think I accomplished getting both tx and rx up tonite, i got online reports i was seen and decoded, and i got two hams decoding on rx on my end. Things looking up.
Will screw with it more tomorrow, progress made. :-)


Mike Armstrong wrote:
Steve, that is true..... If you aren't getting it to decode under good conditions, then it isn't ready for prime time testing on the band(s) it was really intended for.  Good point! Maybe we can try to wet-noodle-antenna on 160 later. :). Got to get the software to work well first!  Which, by the way, I haven't yet.  I am thinking operator error on this end since I haven't gotten a successful passive decode yet.  I won't say there is anything wrong with the software until I am certain I didn't do something boneheaded first.  

That much I know from my long career in IT :)

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 16, 2012, at 19:40! , blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

I can concur with all that Mike, but job #1 is to get a signal, see what it looks like and commence a contact, even IF its not under conditions the mode may very well be able to support.
Right now Ive not 'seen' a signal, (heard some via ear, I believe) but not one copied, or returned to me.
Once I figure how the engine starts, I'm more than willing to test drive it.
Steve -KC2UK

Mike Armstrong wrote:
I hear you..... But I guess my real point is that this particular mode was and is being designed with high noise as its reason for living..... Which is not a bad reason for living on 160 and 80, too for that matter.

I understand that 160 is out for some folks.  I live in the middle of Phoenix, AZ on a typical postage stamp lot.  I AM lucky that my next door neighbor happens to be my mother in law (it really IS an advantage.... She is sweet) and I am using the palm tree in her front yard as the bitter end of my 160 L antenna, which also serves as a half wave on 80 and a long wire for all bands above that.  It works well, either as an L on 160 or as an OCFD with the feedpoint closer to the shack.  It is only 40 feet high, but I did pretty well in last year's CQWW 160 with it playing as a hasty OCFD.  You would think the thing would have been terrible, but in less than 48 hours I had worked 38 states AND 9 countries, includ! ing JAPAN AND CHILE, not to mention Hawaii, Alaska and several countries in the Caribbean.  Think about my antenna for a moment and you will know why I was astounded by the result.  Oh..... I didn't have a low noise receive antenna.... If I had used one I think I would have collected a few more..... There were people answering me that I just couldn't quite dig out of the noise.

The above was just to let you know that I am not sitting on 40 acres or have 4000 foot long beverages or anything like that.  In fact, for the Inverted-L I only have one radial at the moment, but it gets out quote well in that configuration..... Seems to be better than the OCFD way of using it.  So ,yes, I understand LIMITS on acreage and line-noise being exuded by the high tension lines behind my property.  I am just saying that those kinds of limits should be what makes this mode really sing.  Like the poor guys living in apartments who are usi! ng mobile antennas and 25 watts to work DX with psk or JT-65hf..... Th ey are getting out and having a ball doing it because of what these new modes allow...... I say, even if you have to use a 160 meter mobile whip, give it a shot.  This mode may astound us all, just like his other modes have on the higher bands...... With no antenna and no power..... Know what I mean? 

 Not pickin', just sayin' we should really give this puppy a real workout and see what the limits are..... It may end up redefining what is doable on 160 (or 80 for that matter) when you don't have room for the ultimate ON4UN antenna farm..... Or 1000000 foot long beverages..... He he he

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 16, 2012, at 16:56,! blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

Problem IS, 160 is NOT an option for many of us in urban environs.
I for example could hear you guys last night on 160 by ear, but the pulsating line noise (insulator arc-over) made decoding impossible. Period, end of story.
Perhaps we can try a higher band, like 80m but as far as 160 goes, for some of us It's just going to happen.

Mike Armstrong wrote:
Guys, please remember tho that the high noise environment is the reason for these modes.  If you are in a low noise environment, you would be better served with a faster digital mode that can take advantage of that lower noise environment.  Know what I mean?  :)

My thought here is to give it a go ESPECIALLY when you have noise on 160 (and who doesn't?).... Give this mode a real shakedown under worst case conditions and see what it can do.  Low power, less that perfect antennas, HIGH NOISE and 160 meters...... What a combo..... He he he.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 15, 2012, at 14:57, blitz716 <blitz716@...> wrote:

160 is terribly noisy for me here, Im in the city and the only time its usable is mid winter.
is anyone doing JT9 on 30 meters? If so what freq, Id like to try tonight to see someone. Im assuming it would be JT9-2?


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Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Steve, EXCELLENT and I will definitely be looking for you once I get my system to successfully decode some of those signals :). Your working conditions are exactly what *I*, personally, was hoping to find and communicate with. If the success of JT-65 under similar circumstances on the higher HF bands is any indicator, I think we are going to really wring the best out of this great band. For so many years (while I was getting on with my career in the US Navy) I couldn't radiate any signals on this band, for various and sundry reasons. I still have a number of serious limitations with regard to what I can erect for the band, but doggone it I WILL COMMUNICATE! LOL LOL.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 11:52, "Sierra 7" <steve@...> wrote:

Having a mobile whip for 160 Metres in the loft (attic) my best dx on WSPR was about 3,700 KM. Sometimes the noise level is 59+10. I am so glad for this new mode from Joe, as it should allow even greater distances. Topband does not put me off at all. I shall be on 1839.5 on jt9x-2 tonight. 10 Mhz works so well that for me it is not a serious test of this new mode.

Steve



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Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Steve, I forgot to ask.... Can you be a little more specific about the antenna? Congrats on working a station of that distance. Heck, that is a decent distance for 160, no matter what the antenna.... LOL.

But I am very interested in the antenna make and model plus what it is you are using for "the other half," e.g. radials(?). I know Stew Perry, W1BB, had a mobile setup that had what looked like a kid's beach sand bucket covering the loading coil near the base. I understand that he did quite well with that setup. Obviously, his only ground system was the car body...... Hardly the equivalent of a quarter wave radial system.... LOL

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 11:52, "Sierra 7" <steve@...> wrote:

Having a mobile whip for 160 Metres in the loft (attic) my best dx on WSPR was about 3,700 KM. Sometimes the noise level is 59+10. I am so glad for this new mode from Joe, as it should allow even greater distances. Topband does not put me off at all. I shall be on 1839.5 on jt9x-2 tonight. 10 Mhz works so well that for me it is not a serious test of this new mode.

Steve



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Sierra 7 <steve@...>
 

Mike,

Great,

It is all to play for. I think once we get to consistant -30 to -42 db decodes it will work well.Currently on JT9-2. There is a lot of JT65 on tonight as well a little LF of 1839.5 The antenna is a commercial mobile whip about 2.7 metres long on a triple mag mount atttached to the metal latice of an old bed frame.

Steve

PS. My call is G4AZB, Hearing a little CW tonight from Germany on 1839.5 freq, think there is a contest ?, its not enough to kill any weak data though.

Steve

--- In WSJTX@..., Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...> wrote:

Steve, EXCELLENT and I will definitely be looking for you once I get my system to successfully decode some of those signals :). Your working conditions are exactly what *I*, personally, was hoping to find and communicate with. If the success of JT-65 under similar circumstances on the higher HF bands is any indicator, I think we are going to really wring the best out of this great band. For so many years (while I was getting on with my career in the US Navy) I couldn't radiate any signals on this band, for various and sundry reasons. I still have a number of serious limitations with regard to what I can erect for the band, but doggone it I WILL COMMUNICATE! LOL LOL.

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 11:52, "Sierra 7" <steve@...> wrote:

Having a mobile whip for 160 Metres in the loft (attic) my best dx on WSPR was about 3,700 KM. Sometimes the noise level is 59+10. I am so glad for this new mode from Joe, as it should allow even greater distances. Topband does not put me off at all. I shall be on 1839.5 on jt9x-2 tonight. 10 Mhz works so well that for me it is not a serious test of this new mode.

Steve



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Bill Harris <w7kxb@...>
 

Hate to inform you Mike but, Amateur radio does not have primary status
on the 30 meter band.  Reg,s state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users..

Ciao

de Bill-w7kxb . .



To: WSJTX@...
From: armstrmj@...
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:31:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 30 meters?

 

Jeez Steve..... You seem to have one of those cases that is truly a worst case scenario..... Can't catch a break anywhere.  I wish the FCC had a stronger enforcement arm and by that I mean guys with guns who possess no sense of humor.  These power companies are radiating on frequencies that interfere with the primary users (you and me) in a most cavalier way.  This would seem, to anyone with half a brain, to be something the FCC would jump with all their feet.


Mike AB7ZU



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Don Leitch <don@...>
 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of Bill Harris
Sent: Sunday, 18 November 2012 4:12 p.m.
To: WSJTX@...
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

 

Hate to inform you Mike but, Amateur radio does not have primary status

on the 30 meter band.  Reg,s state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users..

 

Ciao

 

de Bill-w7kxb . .


To: WSJTX@...
From: armstrmj@...
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:31:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 30 meters?

 

 

Jeez Steve..... You seem to have one of those cases that is truly a worst case scenario..... Can't catch a break anywhere.  I wish the FCC had a stronger enforcement arm and by that I mean guys with guns who possess no sense of humor.  These power companies are radiating on frequencies that interfere with the primary users (you and me) in a most cavalier way.  This would seem, to anyone with half a brain, to be something the FCC would jump with all their feet.

 

 

Mike AB7ZU

 


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Bill Harris <w7kxb@...>
 

Don:

Mike/AB7ZU refered to us as "Primary Users".   We in Region Two have Secondary Status. Same in Region Three and One.

No one said anything about the Power Company being a Primary User on 30 meters.  "Our  Reg,s (FCC) state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users.." who have Primary Status.

>>The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away. << 

Not necessary Don.  Just QSY if your "interfering" with his transmission..(not sure how you would know that unless you got a "Pink Ticket"  (FCC TALK)  I doubt our 200 watts are going to QRM the primary stations ,  unless your next door to  their receiving station.

Ciao
 
de Bill-w7kxb . .




To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:57 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 



locked WSJTx Controls

Larry Bryan
 

Is there a document that shows how to operate this program. The quick start guide was helpful for setting it up, but did not explain much about the operation or main screen controls.

Larry
W8LIG


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Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Bill and Don, you are both wrong..... I wasn't speaking about 30 meters at all...... My discussion has mostly been to Steve concerning 160 and 80 meters.  However, the power company isn't a spectrum user at all and is operating an ILLEGAL SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER on the entire radio spectrum, of which we are a primary user on most of our bands..... But in the case of 30 meters we are STILL users and the power company IS NOT!

There..... Clear this time?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 21:02, Bill Harris <w7kxb@...> wrote:

Don:

Mike/AB7ZU refered to us as "Primary Users".   We in Region Two have Secondary Status. Same in Region Three and One.

No one said anything about the Power Company being a Primary User on 30 meters.  "Our  Reg,s (FCC) state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users.." who have Primary Status.

>>The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away. << 

Not necessary Don.  Just QSY if your "interfering" with his transmission..(not sure how you would know that unless you got a "Pink Ticket"  (FCC TALK)  I doubt our 200 watts are going to QRM the primary stations ,  unless your next door to  their receiving station.

Ciao
 
de Bill-w7kxb . .




To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:57 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 



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Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Bill, just to make sure you understand.... Despite the subject line, which wasn't mine..... I was responding to a post by Steve and, quite frankly, haven't said anything at all about 30 meters in any of my posts....... If you read any of my others, you would note that most of my discussion has been aimed at 160, with a dabbling of 80. But this commentary about the power company operating spark gap transmitters, which is what an electric arc really is, had to do with us being users (mostly primary on OUR bands) and them not being ANY user of that spectrum upon which we are legitimate users, whether primary or secondary........

I am afraid you missed the point of the posts to begin with because it was about lighting a fire underneath the power company out Steve's way to get them to clean up their act. They are making it impossible for him to operate 160...... That needs to be fixed. The fact that the FCC hasn't assisted him really hacks me off...... They make alot of rules and control our spectrum, but they don't seem to have an enforcement arm that is worth spit. Otherwise power companies would be cited for operating, unintentionally or negligently, illegal spark gap transmitters that cause all manner of havoc for any and all users...... Primary or secondary.

I hope that makes my series of posts with Steve a little clearer. I am trying to whip up some activity there on this mode and it really blows that he can't go there due, in large part, to the power lines around his house radiating on bands they aren't licensed to operate...... Not to mention that even WE cannot operate a spark gap transmitter in our own spectrum..... Again, the discussion had nothing to do, whatsoever, with 30 meters specifically. :) :)

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 20:12, Bill Harris <w7kxb@...> wrote:

0700


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Phil Williams <ka1gmn@...>
 

So what does this all mean? In the big scheme of things?

On Nov 18, 2012 7:58 AM, "Mike Armstrong" <armstrmj@...> wrote:
 

Bill and Don, you are both wrong..... I wasn't speaking about 30 meters at all...... My discussion has mostly been to Steve concerning 160 and 80 meters.  However, the power company isn't a spectrum user at all and is operating an ILLEGAL SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER on the entire radio spectrum, of which we are a primary user on most of our bands..... But in the case of 30 meters we are STILL users and the power company IS NOT!

There..... Clear this time?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 21:02, Bill Harris <w7kxb@...> wrote:

Don:

Mike/AB7ZU refered to us as "Primary Users".   We in Region Two have Secondary Status. Same in Region Three and One.

No one said anything about the Power Company being a Primary User on 30 meters.  "Our  Reg,s (FCC) state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users.." who have Primary Status.

>>The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away. << 

Not necessary Don.  Just QSY if your "interfering" with his transmission..(not sure how you would know that unless you got a "Pink Ticket"  (FCC TALK)  I doubt our 200 watts are going to QRM the primary stations ,  unless your next door to  their receiving station.

Ciao
 
de Bill-w7kxb . .




To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:57 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 



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Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Phil, unfortunately probably not much given what Steve reported concerning his problem getting the power company to actually do something about his line noise issue.

I am not sure, since you haven't mentioned you callsign that I have seen, where you live, but here in the U.S. we do have some alternatives when the power companies don't cooperate.  Since this kind of noise is so prevalent on the low bands and can come from a considerable distance away, it is definitely worth discussing those alternatives.  It is one thing to have an S2 line noise problem that ambient noise would likely overrun anyway...... It is quite another to have it wiping you out at S9+106.  THAT needs to be dealt with because it is flat preventing communications on the band.... Period!  

If that sounded pedantic, please forgive me, but again I am not sure where you live and I know the rules in other countries are quite different from ours here in the U.S. in this regard.  At least, I would suspect they are.  I have had considerable success, as I mentioned in a prior post to Steve, getting the power company to cooperate with noise issues.  I suspect there may be a way to get his to cooperate, too, if we can help m find the "magic words" or magic contacts in that company to make it happen....... Maybe not, but it is definitely worth a try.  I mean,  given my own experience, it is just as likely to be a problem on ANY band as it is to be one on 160 or 80...... In fact, in my case, 30 meters was getting hammered once when most of the other bands were pretty quiet..... 160 being the notable exception on that occasion...... It always seems to catch it, no matter which other bands are involved :). In that case, it was a very dirty insulator on some high tension lines not too far away.  I was able to DF it before I called the company.  If you remember the HABOOB that we experienced here in Phoenix a while back, that was apparently the cause of that particular insulator gathering enough dirt to make arcing a virtual guarantee.  The power company involved (we have two major ones) had it fixed in less than 24 hours.

So, like I was saying, all is not lost, you just have to convince them it is in their interest.  Since power "arced" is power lost (and not being payed for), it is usually possible to get their attention.  That is really the point, right?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 18, 2012, at 8:09, Phil Williams <ka1gmn@...> wrote:

So what does this all mean? In the big scheme of things?

On Nov 18, 2012 7:58 AM, "Mike Armstrong" <armstrmj@...> wrote:
 

Bill and Don, you are both wrong..... I wasn't speaking about 30 meters at all...... My discussion has mostly been to Steve concerning 160 and 80 meters.  However, the power company isn't a spectrum user at all and is operating an ILLEGAL SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER on the entire radio spectrum, of which we are a primary user on most of our bands..... But in the case of 30 meters we are STILL users and the power company IS NOT!

There..... Clear this time?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 21:02, Bill Harris <w7kxb@...> wrote:

Don:

Mike/AB7ZU refered to us as "Primary Users".   We in Region Two have Secondary Status. Same in Region Three and One.

No one said anything about the Power Company being a Primary User on 30 meters.  "Our  Reg,s (FCC) state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users.." who have Primary Status.

>>The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away. << 

Not necessary Don.  Just QSY if your "interfering" with his transmission..(not sure how you would know that unless you got a "Pink Ticket"  (FCC TALK)  I doubt our 200 watts are going to QRM the primary stations ,  unless your next door to  their receiving station.

Ciao
 
de Bill-w7kxb . .




To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:57 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 



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Larry Meehan (WA8EJH)
 

I have been in communication with the folks at eQSL.cc and they are now accepting log uploads with JT9 as the mode. I have successfully uploaded a JT9 log record from HRD.

The reason the JT9 modes were not accepted was that there was no official ADIF code for these new modes. ADIF is the data standard used by most modern logging programs. There is still nothing official from the ADIF "committee", but there will be at some point. In the meantime, eQSL is accepting JT9 as a valid mode designator.

If any records are uploaded with the more specific sub-modes of JT9-1, JT9-2, etc., they will be converted to JT9. The more specific sub-modes will be preserved in a separate (hidden) field in the database. If the ADIF specification ends up allowing the more specific sub-modes as valid modes, the mode can be restored to its original uploaded form.

The ADIF group has been reconsidering its codes for JT65 and its sub-modes. Based upon this, I am betting that the additional sub-modes will not be part of the ADIF spec, so I am putting the sub-mode in the comment field of the log record.

It was gratifying to see the willingness on the part of eQSL to solve this problem. Now let's log lots of QSOs!

Larry,
WA8EJH


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Don Leitch <don@...>
 

I use HRD as my logger and it dosent have a jt9 option

So have to use assci in the mean time

Don zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of Larry Meehan (WA8EJH)
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 7:03 a.m.
To: WSJTX@...
Subject: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

 

I have been in communication with the folks at eQSL.cc and they are now
accepting log uploads with JT9 as the mode. I have successfully
uploaded a JT9 log record from HRD.

The reason the JT9 modes were not accepted was that there was no
official ADIF code for these new modes. ADIF is the data standard used
by most modern logging programs. There is still nothing official from
the ADIF "committee", but there will be at some point. In the meantime,
eQSL is accepting JT9 as a valid mode designator.

If any records are uploaded with the more specific sub-modes of JT9-1,
JT9-2, etc., they will be converted to JT9. The more specific sub-modes
will be preserved in a separate (hidden) field in the database. If the
ADIF specification ends up allowing the more specific sub-modes as valid
modes, the mode can be restored to its original uploaded form.

The ADIF group has been reconsidering its codes for JT65 and its
sub-modes. Based upon this, I am betting that the additional sub-modes
will not be part of the ADIF spec, so I am putting the sub-mode in the
comment field of the log record.

It was gratifying to see the willingness on the part of eQSL to solve
this problem. Now let's log lots of QSOs!

Larry,
WA8EJH


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Michel
 

Hi Ron
 
You can add in HRD JT9
 
clicks Tools -> Configure -> Modes
In the window who open
clicks add
Mode = JT9
ADIF = JT9
Comment = wsjtx
and click OK 
 Now you can see in your modes JT9
73 Ron hope catch you
Michel

To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:34:42 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

I use HRD as my logger and it dosent have a jt9 option

So have to use assci in the mean time

Don zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of Larry Meehan (WA8EJH)
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 7:03 a.m.
To: WSJTX@...
Subject: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

 

I have been in communication with the folks at eQSL.cc and they are now
accepting log uploads with JT9 as the mode. I have successfully
uploaded a JT9 log record from HRD.

The reason the JT9 modes were not accepted was that there was no
official ADIF code for these new modes. ADIF is the data standard used
by most modern logging programs. There is still nothing official from
the ADIF "committee", but there will be at some point. In the meantime,
eQSL is accepting JT9 as a valid mode designator.

If any records are uploaded with the more specific sub-modes of JT9-1,
JT9-2, etc., they will be converted to JT9. The more specific sub-modes
will be preserved in a separate (hidden) field in the database. If the
ADIF specification ends up allowing the more specific sub-modes as valid
modes, the mode can be restored to its original uploaded form.

The ADIF group has been reconsidering its codes for JT65 and its
sub-modes. Based upon this, I am betting that the additional sub-modes
will not be part of the ADIF spec, so I am putting the sub-mode in the
comment field of the log record.

It was gratifying to see the willingness on the part of eQSL to solve
this problem. Now let's log lots of QSOs!

Larry,
WA8EJH


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