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locked Re: 30 Mtrs Primary User

Phil Williams <ka1gmn@...>
 

Please report to the Radio Hall of Justice immediately!


On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Bill Harris <w7kxb@...> wrote:
 

Hi Mike/AB7ZU

Sorry for all the confusion this subject has steered up.  My original reply post to you was on the subject: [WSJTX] 30 meters?   which I have pasted below, and I don't see any reference to 160 and 80 meters. 

   I was just trying to correct your conception that;  you and me,  are primary users.  Somehow I translated that to mean ;  you and me have Primary Status.   Again, sorry for the confusion I have caused and ask for forgiveness and  speedy judgement from my peers.

Broadband noise from  Power Utility transmission lines is another subject, which has been well discussed,  of which I mostly agree with.

You all have a good week and a Happy Thanksgiving Thursday to those of you  honoring it.

73

.-.-.

de Bill-w7kxb . .
 
                                                          *****************************

Mike AB7ZU wrote on: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:31:11 

To: WSJTX@...

From: armstrmj@...
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:31:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 30 meters?

Jeez Steve..... You seem to have one of those cases that is truly a worst case scenario..... Can't catch a break anywhere.  I wish the FCC had a stronger enforcement arm and by that I mean guys with guns who possess no sense of humor.  These power companies are radiating on frequencies that interfere with the primary users (you and me) in a most cavalier way.  This would seem, to anyone with half a brain, to be something the FCC would jump with all their feet.


Mike AB7ZU


Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 06:58:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User


 

Bill and Don, you are both wrong..... I wasn't speaking about 30 meters at all...... My discussion has mostly been to Steve concerning 160 and 80 meters.  However, the power company isn't a spectrum user at all and is operating an ILLEGAL SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER on the entire radio spectrum, of which we are a primary user on most of our bands..... But in the case of 30 meters we are STILL users and the power company IS NOT!

There..... Clear this time?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka




--
Phil KA1GMN



locked Re: 30 Mtrs Primary User

Bill Harris <w7kxb@...>
 

Hi Mike/AB7ZU

Sorry for all the confusion this subject has steered up.  My original reply post to you was on the subject: [WSJTX] 30 meters?   which I have pasted below, and I don't see any reference to 160 and 80 meters. 

   I was just trying to correct your conception that;  you and me,  are primary users.  Somehow I translated that to mean ;  you and me have Primary Status.   Again, sorry for the confusion I have caused and ask for forgiveness and  speedy judgement from my peers.

Broadband noise from  Power Utility transmission lines is another subject, which has been well discussed,  of which I mostly agree with.

You all have a good week and a Happy Thanksgiving Thursday to those of you  honoring it.

73

.-.-.

de Bill-w7kxb . .
 
                                                          *****************************

Mike AB7ZU wrote on: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:31:11 

To: WSJTX@...

From: armstrmj@...
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:31:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 30 meters?

Jeez Steve..... You seem to have one of those cases that is truly a worst case scenario..... Can't catch a break anywhere.  I wish the FCC had a stronger enforcement arm and by that I mean guys with guns who possess no sense of humor.  These power companies are radiating on frequencies that interfere with the primary users (you and me) in a most cavalier way.  This would seem, to anyone with half a brain, to be something the FCC would jump with all their feet.


Mike AB7ZU



To: WSJTX@...
From: armstrmj@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 06:58:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

Bill and Don, you are both wrong..... I wasn't speaking about 30 meters at all...... My discussion has mostly been to Steve concerning 160 and 80 meters.  However, the power company isn't a spectrum user at all and is operating an ILLEGAL SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER on the entire radio spectrum, of which we are a primary user on most of our bands..... But in the case of 30 meters we are STILL users and the power company IS NOT!

There..... Clear this time?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka


locked Re: CQ in JT9-2 @ 474KHz + 1400

Steinar LA5VNA
 

No taker so far but still calling CQ

LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq
Mal and spam filtering: extremely STRONG
www.opera.no

Den 18.11.2012 21:27, skrev Steinar Aanesland:


Hi, I am calling CQ in JT9-2 @ 474KHz + 1400.


locked Where's the waterfall?

af5x@...
 

Just went thru my first JT9 QSO yesterday--5w vert--with
VK4CMV. Worked fine: I was -17, he was -24 (-22 to -
26)
Then, I realized I hadn't seen anything in the waterfall.
I'd been double-clicking on his analog (red, JT9) display.

In fact, I don't remember ever seeing anything in the
waterfall. Have I pushed the wrong button?
~jess, AF5X


locked CQ in JT9-2 @ 474KHz + 1400

Steinar LA5VNA
 

Hi, I am calling CQ in JT9-2 @ 474KHz + 1400.

--
LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq
Mal and spam filtering: extremely STRONG
www.opera.no


locked Re: eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

Don Leitch <don@...>
 

That worked

Thanks

Don    zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of MICHEL LUZERNE
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 8:47 a.m.
To: wsjtx yahoo group
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

 

Hi Ron
 
You can add in HRD JT9
 
clicks Tools -> Configure -> Modes
In the window who open
clicks add
Mode = JT9
ADIF = JT9
Comment = wsjtx
and click OK 
 Now you can see in your modes JT9
73 Ron hope catch you
Michel


To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:34:42 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

I use HRD as my logger and it dosent have a jt9 option

So have to use assci in the mean time

Don zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of Larry Meehan (WA8EJH)
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 7:03 a.m.
To: WSJTX@...
Subject: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

 

I have been in communication with the folks at eQSL.cc and they are now
accepting log uploads with JT9 as the mode. I have successfully
uploaded a JT9 log record from HRD.

The reason the JT9 modes were not accepted was that there was no
official ADIF code for these new modes. ADIF is the data standard used
by most modern logging programs. There is still nothing official from
the ADIF "committee", but there will be at some point. In the meantime,
eQSL is accepting JT9 as a valid mode designator.

If any records are uploaded with the more specific sub-modes of JT9-1,
JT9-2, etc., they will be converted to JT9. The more specific sub-modes
will be preserved in a separate (hidden) field in the database. If the
ADIF specification ends up allowing the more specific sub-modes as valid
modes, the mode can be restored to its original uploaded form.

The ADIF group has been reconsidering its codes for JT65 and its
sub-modes. Based upon this, I am betting that the additional sub-modes
will not be part of the ADIF spec, so I am putting the sub-mode in the
comment field of the log record.

It was gratifying to see the willingness on the part of eQSL to solve
this problem. Now let's log lots of QSOs!

Larry,
WA8EJH

 


locked Poll results for WSJTX

WSJTX@...
 

The following WSJTX poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: just to make it easy, poll will be by band with usb dial as center.
what is good freq for 160m. keep in mind the itu regions restrictions
in mind so everyone can be included.

david/wd4kpd

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- 1837.5, 1 votes, 6.67%
- 1838, 2 votes, 13.33%
- 1838.5, 0 votes, 0.00%
- 1839, 3 votes, 20.00%
- 1839.5, 5 votes, 33.33%
- less than 1837.5 or above 1839.5, 4 votes, 26.67%



For more information about this group, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WSJTX

For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/forms/general.html


locked 160M POLL CLOSED

DAVID <wd4kpd@...>
 

here be the results of the 160m poll....


Responses
Choices Votes % 1 reply
1837.5 1 6
1838 2 13
1838.5 0 0
1839 3 20
1839.5 5 33
less than 1837.5 or above 1839.5
4 26

top two choices are 1839.5 & 1839 with the wildcard of #6.

it's all up to you !

david/wd4kpd


locked Re: eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

Phil Williams <ka1gmn@...>
 

Too bad the JT9 mode is going to be come recognized.   I kind of liked the fact that the contact made via this mode had no permanence what so ever.


On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:47 PM, MICHEL LUZERNE <micheluze@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ron
 
You can add in HRD JT9
 
clicks Tools -> Configure -> Modes
In the window who open
clicks add
Mode = JT9
ADIF = JT9
Comment = wsjtx
and click OK 
 Now you can see in your modes JT9
73 Ron hope catch you
Michel

To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:34:42 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode


 

I use HRD as my logger and it dosent have a jt9 option

So have to use assci in the mean time

Don zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of Larry Meehan (WA8EJH)
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 7:03 a.m.
To: WSJTX@...
Subject: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

 

I have been in communication with the folks at eQSL.cc and they are now
accepting log uploads with JT9 as the mode. I have successfully
uploaded a JT9 log record from HRD.

The reason the JT9 modes were not accepted was that there was no
official ADIF code for these new modes. ADIF is the data standard used
by most modern logging programs. There is still nothing official from
the ADIF "committee", but there will be at some point. In the meantime,
eQSL is accepting JT9 as a valid mode designator.

If any records are uploaded with the more specific sub-modes of JT9-1,
JT9-2, etc., they will be converted to JT9. The more specific sub-modes
will be preserved in a separate (hidden) field in the database. If the
ADIF specification ends up allowing the more specific sub-modes as valid
modes, the mode can be restored to its original uploaded form.

The ADIF group has been reconsidering its codes for JT65 and its
sub-modes. Based upon this, I am betting that the additional sub-modes
will not be part of the ADIF spec, so I am putting the sub-mode in the
comment field of the log record.

It was gratifying to see the willingness on the part of eQSL to solve
this problem. Now let's log lots of QSOs!

Larry,
WA8EJH





--
Phil KA1GMN



locked Re: eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

Don Leitch <don@...>
 

Thanks will try it

Don zl1atb

 

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of MICHEL LUZERNE
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 8:47 a.m.
To: wsjtx yahoo group
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

 

Hi Ron
 
You can add in HRD JT9
 
clicks Tools -> Configure -> Modes
In the window who open
clicks add
Mode = JT9
ADIF = JT9
Comment = wsjtx
and click OK 
 Now you can see in your modes JT9
73 Ron hope catch you
Michel


To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:34:42 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

I use HRD as my logger and it dosent have a jt9 option

So have to use assci in the mean time

Don zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of Larry Meehan (WA8EJH)
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 7:03 a.m.
To: WSJTX@...
Subject: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

 

I have been in communication with the folks at eQSL.cc and they are now
accepting log uploads with JT9 as the mode. I have successfully
uploaded a JT9 log record from HRD.

The reason the JT9 modes were not accepted was that there was no
official ADIF code for these new modes. ADIF is the data standard used
by most modern logging programs. There is still nothing official from
the ADIF "committee", but there will be at some point. In the meantime,
eQSL is accepting JT9 as a valid mode designator.

If any records are uploaded with the more specific sub-modes of JT9-1,
JT9-2, etc., they will be converted to JT9. The more specific sub-modes
will be preserved in a separate (hidden) field in the database. If the
ADIF specification ends up allowing the more specific sub-modes as valid
modes, the mode can be restored to its original uploaded form.

The ADIF group has been reconsidering its codes for JT65 and its
sub-modes. Based upon this, I am betting that the additional sub-modes
will not be part of the ADIF spec, so I am putting the sub-mode in the
comment field of the log record.

It was gratifying to see the willingness on the part of eQSL to solve
this problem. Now let's log lots of QSOs!

Larry,
WA8EJH

 


locked Re: eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

Michel
 

Hi Ron
 
You can add in HRD JT9
 
clicks Tools -> Configure -> Modes
In the window who open
clicks add
Mode = JT9
ADIF = JT9
Comment = wsjtx
and click OK 
 Now you can see in your modes JT9
73 Ron hope catch you
Michel

To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:34:42 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

I use HRD as my logger and it dosent have a jt9 option

So have to use assci in the mean time

Don zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of Larry Meehan (WA8EJH)
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 7:03 a.m.
To: WSJTX@...
Subject: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

 

I have been in communication with the folks at eQSL.cc and they are now
accepting log uploads with JT9 as the mode. I have successfully
uploaded a JT9 log record from HRD.

The reason the JT9 modes were not accepted was that there was no
official ADIF code for these new modes. ADIF is the data standard used
by most modern logging programs. There is still nothing official from
the ADIF "committee", but there will be at some point. In the meantime,
eQSL is accepting JT9 as a valid mode designator.

If any records are uploaded with the more specific sub-modes of JT9-1,
JT9-2, etc., they will be converted to JT9. The more specific sub-modes
will be preserved in a separate (hidden) field in the database. If the
ADIF specification ends up allowing the more specific sub-modes as valid
modes, the mode can be restored to its original uploaded form.

The ADIF group has been reconsidering its codes for JT65 and its
sub-modes. Based upon this, I am betting that the additional sub-modes
will not be part of the ADIF spec, so I am putting the sub-mode in the
comment field of the log record.

It was gratifying to see the willingness on the part of eQSL to solve
this problem. Now let's log lots of QSOs!

Larry,
WA8EJH



locked Re: eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

Don Leitch <don@...>
 

I use HRD as my logger and it dosent have a jt9 option

So have to use assci in the mean time

Don zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of Larry Meehan (WA8EJH)
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 7:03 a.m.
To: WSJTX@...
Subject: [WSJTX] eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

 

 

I have been in communication with the folks at eQSL.cc and they are now
accepting log uploads with JT9 as the mode. I have successfully
uploaded a JT9 log record from HRD.

The reason the JT9 modes were not accepted was that there was no
official ADIF code for these new modes. ADIF is the data standard used
by most modern logging programs. There is still nothing official from
the ADIF "committee", but there will be at some point. In the meantime,
eQSL is accepting JT9 as a valid mode designator.

If any records are uploaded with the more specific sub-modes of JT9-1,
JT9-2, etc., they will be converted to JT9. The more specific sub-modes
will be preserved in a separate (hidden) field in the database. If the
ADIF specification ends up allowing the more specific sub-modes as valid
modes, the mode can be restored to its original uploaded form.

The ADIF group has been reconsidering its codes for JT65 and its
sub-modes. Based upon this, I am betting that the additional sub-modes
will not be part of the ADIF spec, so I am putting the sub-mode in the
comment field of the log record.

It was gratifying to see the willingness on the part of eQSL to solve
this problem. Now let's log lots of QSOs!

Larry,
WA8EJH


locked eQSL now accepting JT9 mode

Larry Meehan (WA8EJH)
 

I have been in communication with the folks at eQSL.cc and they are now accepting log uploads with JT9 as the mode. I have successfully uploaded a JT9 log record from HRD.

The reason the JT9 modes were not accepted was that there was no official ADIF code for these new modes. ADIF is the data standard used by most modern logging programs. There is still nothing official from the ADIF "committee", but there will be at some point. In the meantime, eQSL is accepting JT9 as a valid mode designator.

If any records are uploaded with the more specific sub-modes of JT9-1, JT9-2, etc., they will be converted to JT9. The more specific sub-modes will be preserved in a separate (hidden) field in the database. If the ADIF specification ends up allowing the more specific sub-modes as valid modes, the mode can be restored to its original uploaded form.

The ADIF group has been reconsidering its codes for JT65 and its sub-modes. Based upon this, I am betting that the additional sub-modes will not be part of the ADIF spec, so I am putting the sub-mode in the comment field of the log record.

It was gratifying to see the willingness on the part of eQSL to solve this problem. Now let's log lots of QSOs!

Larry,
WA8EJH


locked Re: 30 Mtrs Primary User

Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Phil, unfortunately probably not much given what Steve reported concerning his problem getting the power company to actually do something about his line noise issue.

I am not sure, since you haven't mentioned you callsign that I have seen, where you live, but here in the U.S. we do have some alternatives when the power companies don't cooperate.  Since this kind of noise is so prevalent on the low bands and can come from a considerable distance away, it is definitely worth discussing those alternatives.  It is one thing to have an S2 line noise problem that ambient noise would likely overrun anyway...... It is quite another to have it wiping you out at S9+106.  THAT needs to be dealt with because it is flat preventing communications on the band.... Period!  

If that sounded pedantic, please forgive me, but again I am not sure where you live and I know the rules in other countries are quite different from ours here in the U.S. in this regard.  At least, I would suspect they are.  I have had considerable success, as I mentioned in a prior post to Steve, getting the power company to cooperate with noise issues.  I suspect there may be a way to get his to cooperate, too, if we can help m find the "magic words" or magic contacts in that company to make it happen....... Maybe not, but it is definitely worth a try.  I mean,  given my own experience, it is just as likely to be a problem on ANY band as it is to be one on 160 or 80...... In fact, in my case, 30 meters was getting hammered once when most of the other bands were pretty quiet..... 160 being the notable exception on that occasion...... It always seems to catch it, no matter which other bands are involved :). In that case, it was a very dirty insulator on some high tension lines not too far away.  I was able to DF it before I called the company.  If you remember the HABOOB that we experienced here in Phoenix a while back, that was apparently the cause of that particular insulator gathering enough dirt to make arcing a virtual guarantee.  The power company involved (we have two major ones) had it fixed in less than 24 hours.

So, like I was saying, all is not lost, you just have to convince them it is in their interest.  Since power "arced" is power lost (and not being payed for), it is usually possible to get their attention.  That is really the point, right?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 18, 2012, at 8:09, Phil Williams <ka1gmn@...> wrote:

So what does this all mean? In the big scheme of things?

On Nov 18, 2012 7:58 AM, "Mike Armstrong" <armstrmj@...> wrote:
 

Bill and Don, you are both wrong..... I wasn't speaking about 30 meters at all...... My discussion has mostly been to Steve concerning 160 and 80 meters.  However, the power company isn't a spectrum user at all and is operating an ILLEGAL SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER on the entire radio spectrum, of which we are a primary user on most of our bands..... But in the case of 30 meters we are STILL users and the power company IS NOT!

There..... Clear this time?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 21:02, Bill Harris <w7kxb@...> wrote:

Don:

Mike/AB7ZU refered to us as "Primary Users".   We in Region Two have Secondary Status. Same in Region Three and One.

No one said anything about the Power Company being a Primary User on 30 meters.  "Our  Reg,s (FCC) state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users.." who have Primary Status.

>>The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away. << 

Not necessary Don.  Just QSY if your "interfering" with his transmission..(not sure how you would know that unless you got a "Pink Ticket"  (FCC TALK)  I doubt our 200 watts are going to QRM the primary stations ,  unless your next door to  their receiving station.

Ciao
 
de Bill-w7kxb . .




To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:57 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 



locked Re: 30 Mtrs Primary User

Phil Williams <ka1gmn@...>
 

So what does this all mean? In the big scheme of things?

On Nov 18, 2012 7:58 AM, "Mike Armstrong" <armstrmj@...> wrote:

 

Bill and Don, you are both wrong..... I wasn't speaking about 30 meters at all...... My discussion has mostly been to Steve concerning 160 and 80 meters.  However, the power company isn't a spectrum user at all and is operating an ILLEGAL SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER on the entire radio spectrum, of which we are a primary user on most of our bands..... But in the case of 30 meters we are STILL users and the power company IS NOT!

There..... Clear this time?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 21:02, Bill Harris <w7kxb@...> wrote:

Don:

Mike/AB7ZU refered to us as "Primary Users".   We in Region Two have Secondary Status. Same in Region Three and One.

No one said anything about the Power Company being a Primary User on 30 meters.  "Our  Reg,s (FCC) state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users.." who have Primary Status.

>>The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away. << 

Not necessary Don.  Just QSY if your "interfering" with his transmission..(not sure how you would know that unless you got a "Pink Ticket"  (FCC TALK)  I doubt our 200 watts are going to QRM the primary stations ,  unless your next door to  their receiving station.

Ciao
 
de Bill-w7kxb . .




To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:57 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 



locked Re: 30 Mtrs Primary User

Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Bill, just to make sure you understand.... Despite the subject line, which wasn't mine..... I was responding to a post by Steve and, quite frankly, haven't said anything at all about 30 meters in any of my posts....... If you read any of my others, you would note that most of my discussion has been aimed at 160, with a dabbling of 80. But this commentary about the power company operating spark gap transmitters, which is what an electric arc really is, had to do with us being users (mostly primary on OUR bands) and them not being ANY user of that spectrum upon which we are legitimate users, whether primary or secondary........

I am afraid you missed the point of the posts to begin with because it was about lighting a fire underneath the power company out Steve's way to get them to clean up their act. They are making it impossible for him to operate 160...... That needs to be fixed. The fact that the FCC hasn't assisted him really hacks me off...... They make alot of rules and control our spectrum, but they don't seem to have an enforcement arm that is worth spit. Otherwise power companies would be cited for operating, unintentionally or negligently, illegal spark gap transmitters that cause all manner of havoc for any and all users...... Primary or secondary.

I hope that makes my series of posts with Steve a little clearer. I am trying to whip up some activity there on this mode and it really blows that he can't go there due, in large part, to the power lines around his house radiating on bands they aren't licensed to operate...... Not to mention that even WE cannot operate a spark gap transmitter in our own spectrum..... Again, the discussion had nothing to do, whatsoever, with 30 meters specifically. :) :)

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 20:12, Bill Harris <w7kxb@...> wrote:

0700


locked Re: 30 Mtrs Primary User

Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@...>
 

Bill and Don, you are both wrong..... I wasn't speaking about 30 meters at all...... My discussion has mostly been to Steve concerning 160 and 80 meters.  However, the power company isn't a spectrum user at all and is operating an ILLEGAL SPARK GAP TRANSMITTER on the entire radio spectrum, of which we are a primary user on most of our bands..... But in the case of 30 meters we are STILL users and the power company IS NOT!

There..... Clear this time?

Mike AB7ZU

Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka

On Nov 17, 2012, at 21:02, Bill Harris <w7kxb@...> wrote:

Don:

Mike/AB7ZU refered to us as "Primary Users".   We in Region Two have Secondary Status. Same in Region Three and One.

No one said anything about the Power Company being a Primary User on 30 meters.  "Our  Reg,s (FCC) state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users.." who have Primary Status.

>>The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away. << 

Not necessary Don.  Just QSY if your "interfering" with his transmission..(not sure how you would know that unless you got a "Pink Ticket"  (FCC TALK)  I doubt our 200 watts are going to QRM the primary stations ,  unless your next door to  their receiving station.

Ciao
 
de Bill-w7kxb . .




To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:57 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 



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Larry Bryan
 

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Bill Harris <w7kxb@...>
 

Don:

Mike/AB7ZU refered to us as "Primary Users".   We in Region Two have Secondary Status. Same in Region Three and One.

No one said anything about the Power Company being a Primary User on 30 meters.  "Our  Reg,s (FCC) state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users.." who have Primary Status.

>>The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away. << 

Not necessary Don.  Just QSY if your "interfering" with his transmission..(not sure how you would know that unless you got a "Pink Ticket"  (FCC TALK)  I doubt our 200 watts are going to QRM the primary stations ,  unless your next door to  their receiving station.

Ciao
 
de Bill-w7kxb . .




To: WSJTX@...
From: don@...
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:22:57 +1300
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 



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Don Leitch <don@...>
 

Where do you get a primary user out of a power company radiating on power lines being a legit user.

The problem I see is we hear someone , assume its a commercial user, being primary user, and we quietly go away.

Are they actually allowed there more to the point.

Don zl1atb

 

From: WSJTX@... [mailto:WSJTX@...] On Behalf Of Bill Harris
Sent: Sunday, 18 November 2012 4:12 p.m.
To: WSJTX@...
Subject: RE: [WSJTX] 30 Mtrs Primary User

 

 

Hate to inform you Mike but, Amateur radio does not have primary status

on the 30 meter band.  Reg,s state that we avoid interfering with other non-amateur licensed users..

 

Ciao

 

de Bill-w7kxb . .


To: WSJTX@...
From: armstrmj@...
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:31:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 30 meters?

 

 

Jeez Steve..... You seem to have one of those cases that is truly a worst case scenario..... Can't catch a break anywhere.  I wish the FCC had a stronger enforcement arm and by that I mean guys with guns who possess no sense of humor.  These power companies are radiating on frequencies that interfere with the primary users (you and me) in a most cavalier way.  This would seem, to anyone with half a brain, to be something the FCC would jump with all their feet.

 

 

Mike AB7ZU