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locked Re: CAT issue with FTDX1200 / 3000 #Cat_RigControl

Hasan Schiers N0AN
 

Unrelated to WSJT-X as such, but a very important consideration for satellite work w/r to the FT-817 and for that matter, the FT-857D and a few other Yaesu rigs is that neither of these radios will accept frequency data via CAT while PTT is asserted.

This means that they cannot do doppler correction, without dropping PTT, which makes satellite, ops even with a separate receiver laborious at best.

So, if you are going to get a new radio for WSJT-X,. and have any intentions of ever using it for satellite operation, do not buy these two radios and be very careful to find out if any radio you purchase will accept CAT commands while PTT is asserted.

Take it from someone who learned the hard way. I have a virtually new FT-857d sitting on a shelf. Wonderful radio in terms of price/performance, but near useless for satellite work where real time doppler correction is important.

73, N0AN
Hasan


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 9:54 AM Kai-KE4PT <k.siwiak@...> wrote:
Jim,
I've been running the Yaesu FT-817 on SSB to unsolicited rave reviews on the audio quality. Also no complaints on CW, RTTY (via sound card), and many of the modes in WSJT-X and FLdigi, via Signaling USB auido/PTT unit.
That is a good reason to buy Yaesu!
Kindest regards,
Kai Siwiak, KE4PT


locked Re: CAT issue with FTDX1200 / 3000 #Cat_RigControl

Kai-KE4PT
 

Jim,
I've been running the Yaesu FT-817 on SSB to unsolicited rave reviews on the audio quality. Also no complaints on CW, RTTY (via sound card), and many of the modes in WSJT-X and FLdigi, via Signaling USB auido/PTT unit.
That is a good reason to buy Yaesu!
Kindest regards,
Kai Siwiak, KE4PT


locked Re: WSJTX time program

 

Small addendum to Martins excellent post below. 

 

The latest Meinberg version is available at: https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm#ntp_stable.  As of this morning the latest version is ‘ntp-4.2.8p13’ published 8 March 2019.  Meinberg recommends upgrading to the latest version as it contains some security upgrades.

 

__________

Dan – K4SHQ

CFI/II

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io [mailto:WSJTX@groups.io] On Behalf Of Martin G0HDB
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 5:36 PM
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] WSJTX time program

 

In my opinion and experience the Meinberg NTP implementation is by far the best way of keeping a PC's clock accurately sync'ed to 'real time' - it adjusts and keeps the PC clock disciplined by making smooth adjustments rather than the crude step-changes applied by apps such as Dimension 4 that use SNTP rather than the 'proper' NTP protocol.  However...

There's a few pitfalls to avoid when installing the Meinberg NTP client so I'd very strongly recommend anyone considering installing it to read and follow the guidance given by GM8ARV on his website at:

https://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html

In particular, take note of the 'Where to install NTP?' section about NOT installing the NTP client in the usual C:\Program Files location.  Also, the 'Why NTP?' section way down towards the bottom of the web page gives some of the reasons why a proper NTP app gives much better results than a cruder, SNTP one.

As mentioned by Max NG7M above, I'd also recommend installing the Meinberg Time Server Monitor app - it's a nice way to get a good view of how the NTP client is keeping the PC's clock correctly sync'ed. 

In my setup I have my own GPS-derived stratum 1 NTP server, built on a Raspberry Pi, and the Meinberg NTP client that's installed on all my PCs uses this local NTP server to achieve an offset from 'real time' that only very rarely exceeds 1 or 2millisecs, which is more than adequate for WSJT-X's purposes!  Knowing that my PCs are accurately time-sync'ed also means that I can be pretty confident that any DT offsets shown in WSJT-X decodes are due to time errors at the other station's end and not at my end.

--
Martin G0HDB


locked Re: PTT issue

Bill Somerville
 

On 16/03/2020 13:33, OGANE YOSHIAKI wrote:
Hi all,

I am new to the group.

I have a PTT issue. When I click Tune button several times repeatedly, my K3 will be keyed to TX for the first two to three times of clicking Tune. However, it will not be keyed after that with the same setting. Restarting WSJTX program or even PC does not cure the problem. I also deleted and reinstalled WSJTX program without a joy.

I am running DXLab on the same PC(OS Windows 10 Pro) that runs WSJTX. A USB serial cable with FTDI chipset connects PC and K3 for PTT. For the precise timing of PTT, I prefer RTS to CAT as PTT method.

Does anyone have any clue?

JL1CNY/ND1Y Sam
Hi Sam,

this is a long standing known issue. We do not currently have a fix but avoiding repeated fast PTT assertions is advised.

Are you using commander for rig control?

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: CAT issue with FTDX1200 / 3000 #Cat_RigControl

Greg Chartrand
 

It sure would be nice to have a reviewer of radios specifically for the WSJT modes that takes into account all aspects of performance so people like me can judge based on relative elements of the digital modes. 

Just for the record, I'm extremely pleased over-all with my FTDX-1200, it is clean, stable, and has a extraordinary receiver that on CW will compete with the best of all the other radios in the market. The CAT antenna switch issue is my only complaint and will get fixed when I purchase an amplifier and tuner that is programmable. I will not bash Yaesu over-all in fact hardly any of the radio's available are fully designed with digital in mind so virtually all are compromises in one way or the other. Roger, I think this horse has been sufficiently beaten to death!


locked PTT issue

OGANE YOSHIAKI
 

Hi all,

I am new to the group.

I have a PTT issue. When I click Tune button several times repeatedly, my K3 will be keyed to TX for the first two to three times of clicking Tune. However, it will not be keyed after that with the same setting. Restarting WSJTX program or even PC does not cure the problem. I also deleted and reinstalled WSJTX program without a joy.

I am running DXLab on the same PC(OS Windows 10 Pro) that runs WSJTX. A USB serial cable with FTDI chipset connects PC and K3 for PTT. For the precise timing of PTT, I prefer RTS to CAT as PTT method. 

Does anyone have any clue?

JL1CNY/ND1Y Sam


locked Re: Desktop Icon for different location

Herb Blue - WB8ASI
 

Wow.  That was easy.  Thanks much. 73, Herb WB8ASI

On March 16, 2020 at 5:28 AM Tom Melvin < tom@...> wrote:


On a Windows PC :

Right click existing desktop icon
Select ‘copy’
Select ‘paste’

You will now have a new icon on desktop ‘wsjt-x - Copy’
Right click it
Select Properties
Change General -> Name to suit
Add to to command line in Shortcut -> Target —rig-name=IO85 (Or make it any name to suit you - make sure you have a hyphen between rig and name))
Click OK

When selected wsjt will be started with settings in IO85 (in my example), if does not exist will be created, adjust WSJT settings as appropriate.

I believe Mac desktop icons are similar - if your using a *nix version can’t help.

Tom

--
73’s

Tom
GM8MJV (IO85)





On 16 Mar 2020, at 02:34, Herb Blue < WB8ASI@...> wrote:

How to add an additional desktop icon for different grid location?


locked Re: wave files

m_scot_alex
 

There have been several threads regarding sound files in general and discussions about how to create custom sound files in the JT Alert group:

https://hamapps.groups.io/g/Support/search?q=sounds

73,

Mike - N8MSA


locked Re: Desktop Icon for different location

Tom Melvin
 

On a Windows PC :

Right click existing desktop icon
Select ‘copy’
Select ‘paste’

You will now have a new icon on desktop ‘wsjt-x - Copy’
Right click it
Select Properties
Change General -> Name to suit
Add to to command line in Shortcut -> Target —rig-name=IO85 (Or make it any name to suit you - make sure you have a hyphen between rig and name))
Click OK

When selected wsjt will be started with settings in IO85 (in my example), if does not exist will be created, adjust WSJT settings as appropriate.

I believe Mac desktop icons are similar - if your using a *nix version can’t help.

Tom

--
73’s

Tom
GM8MJV (IO85)

On 16 Mar 2020, at 02:34, Herb Blue <WB8ASI@...> wrote:

How to add an additional desktop icon for different grid location?


locked Desktop Icon for different location

Herb Blue - WB8ASI
 

How to add an additional desktop icon for different grid location?


locked Re: WSJTX time program

Martin G0HDB
 

In my opinion and experience the Meinberg NTP implementation is by far the best way of keeping a PC's clock accurately sync'ed to 'real time' - it adjusts and keeps the PC clock disciplined by making smooth adjustments rather than the crude step-changes applied by apps such as Dimension 4 that use SNTP rather than the 'proper' NTP protocol.  However...

There's a few pitfalls to avoid when installing the Meinberg NTP client so I'd very strongly recommend anyone considering installing it to read and follow the guidance given by GM8ARV on his website at:

https://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html

In particular, take note of the 'Where to install NTP?' section about NOT installing the NTP client in the usual C:\Program Files location.  Also, the 'Why NTP?' section way down towards the bottom of the web page gives some of the reasons why a proper NTP app gives much better results than a cruder, SNTP one.

As mentioned by Max NG7M above, I'd also recommend installing the Meinberg Time Server Monitor app - it's a nice way to get a good view of how the NTP client is keeping the PC's clock correctly sync'ed. 

In my setup I have my own GPS-derived stratum 1 NTP server, built on a Raspberry Pi, and the Meinberg NTP client that's installed on all my PCs uses this local NTP server to achieve an offset from 'real time' that only very rarely exceeds 1 or 2millisecs, which is more than adequate for WSJT-X's purposes!  Knowing that my PCs are accurately time-sync'ed also means that I can be pretty confident that any DT offsets shown in WSJT-X decodes are due to time errors at the other station's end and not at my end.

--
Martin G0HDB


locked Re: Separate logs for different operating Grids ?

Radivoj Kar, f6gnz
 

Hi Gven,
You still remember esperanto? Than you must be an OT like myself (82) 😀 !
73, Radi f6gnz


locked Re: No decode, waterfall compressed

Zeev Stadler
 

I sometimes see the same symptoms when the PC is running other programs that consume CPU power, memory, or disk access.

To see if this is the case, I would recommend restarting the computer and closing any other software that may be running.
--

73
Zeev
4X5ZS


locked Re: Re WSJTX NOT RECEIVING

Jim Bacher - WB8VSU
 

Dick, as you changed the radio out.. Make sure you didn't do what I did with the Din plug on my Yaesu. I managed to bend a pin when plugging it back in the other day. 
The other thing that comes to mind is, are the audio filters in the radio set to something like CW, when it's in the mode for wsjt? 
Jim


locked Re WSJTX NOT RECEIVING

Rich - K1HTV
 

Dick,
Dick,
In addition to the suggestions made as to why you are not seeing signals on the waterfall, there is a trap in the WSJT-X  Wide Graph screen. one which I have accidentally fallen into a few times.

In the lower center of the Wide Graph window, there is a check box labeled "Ref Spec". I don't know of any WSJT-X users who have ever needed that 'feature', but if that box is accidentally checked, nothing will be seen on the waterfall. With no signals on the waterfall, nothing will be decoded. I believe that this checkbox should be eliminated or at least, made an option on the settings page.

Here is another important 'Wide Graph' reminder to all WSJT-X users
I'm sure that a number of WSJT-X users, in order to make more room on their video monitor for other open apps, reduce the horizontal width of the Wide Graph screen.

The number of decoded signals is affected by the width of the Wide Graph screen.
If the highest frequency shown on the ruler at the top of the waterfall shows 1200, you will not decode any stations using a tone frequency higher than 1200 Hz. With a Bind/Pixel setting of 5, an narrowest screen width possible, you can still decode signals as high as 2900 Hertz. Reducing the bandwidth of your receiver with narrow filters and using hi cut or low cut rolloff controls will also limit the number of decoded stations.

As far as the Wide Graph, you can always minimize it, but make sure that its open to decode signals to a minimum range of 200 to 2900 Hz before you do.

73,
Rich - K1HTV

 

Dick, KS0M wrote:

WSJTX NOT RECEIVEING
   From: Richard White <rcwcourtney26@...>
   Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 22:09:40 EDT

I HAVE USED WSJTX SINCE 03/31/2019 WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS UNTIL MY RADIO HAD TO BE SENT TO YAESU FOR REPAIR. WHEN I GOT IT BACK ALL MODES WORKED (CW-SSB) OK EXCEPT WSJTX. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE WSJTX WORK FOR THE PAST 3 WEEKS. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING I KNOWTO GET IT WORKING WITHOUT SUCCESS. UNINSTALLED ONCE AND INSTALLED VER 2.1.2 AND  STILL NO HELP. HAVE  RESET THE SIGNALINK SETTINGS AT LEAST A DOZEN TIMES. I HAVE BEEN OVER THE RADIO MENUE SETTINGS AND THEY SEEM TO BE OK, BUT ?

PROBLEM: NO RECEIVE IN WATERFALL OR THE TWO RECEIVE WINDOWS. I CAN KEY THE RADIO  AND POWER IS FULLPOWER OUT BY THE RADIO METER.

EQUIPMENT = YAESU FT-450D, SIGNALINK USB INTERFACE AND LAPTOP PCU ( LAP TOP USED BEFORE WITH WSJTX).

ANY HELP APPRECIATED.

DICK  KS0M  


locked Re: HELP. WINDOWS 10 UPGRADE ISSUE

jwvaughn
 

Here is a quick and dirty timer check using a browser - https://time.is/

 

It won’t set the clock but will show if it off.

 

Jerry

KK6QHZ

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io [mailto:WSJTX@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Turner via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 12:31
To: wsjtx@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] HELP. WINDOWS 10 UPGRADE ISSUE

 

Jim is right, time.is will tell you if your time sync is off.  I have seldom seen uninstalling/reinstalling wsjtx solving the problem. If using Windows, restart the computer to ensure any updates have finished before changing anything in the software.  I am using Meinburg NTP for time sync.

 

Bill, W4WNT


locked Re: WSJTX NOT RECEIVEING

Jim Bacher - WB8VSU
 

Joe, it's been a while since I hit it, so take this with a grain of salt.. 

Select the speaker on the bottom right and select settings. I believe the security setting shows up there.. Come to think of it, it only affects the microphone not recieved audio. 

I should point out that if you see ft8 signals in the water fall (assuming you are not on a dead band), then your time is off. 

If you don't see any signals then you have a audio issue such as incorrect input selected, bad audio cable, volume set to low, bad audio driver, security issue, etc. 

A few people have had Windows reset audio selections on updates. I have not had that happen. 

Jim Bacher, WB8VSU 
wb8vsu@... 
https://trc.guru

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 2:24 PM, Joe Wallace, W7RNX via Groups.Io
<joefirevfw@...> wrote:


locked Re: HELP. WINDOWS 10 UPGRADE ISSUE

Bill Turner
 

Jim is right, time.is will tell you if your time sync is off.  I have seldom seen uninstalling/reinstalling wsjtx solving the problem. If using Windows, restart the computer to ensure any updates have finished before changing anything in the software.  I am using Meinburg NTP for time sync.

Bill, W4WNT


locked Re: WSJTX time program

 

I've never had a problem with Meinberg ntpc software. It has a number of servers it connects to. 6 in the UK and one in Netherlands. I don't know the algorithm, whether it pings all of them and takes the average (hopefully less the outliers) or cycles through them each time. 

73 
Phil GM3ZZA

On 15 Mar 2020 16:48, Max NG7M <ng7m@...> wrote:
If you want to use an actual Windows NTP build / service that will sync your clock to NTP servers, download the Meinberg build from here: https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm  You get full control and full feature support of 'the defacto standard' NTP client that will use phase locked loop logic and discipline your clock based on it's drift using multiple NTP servers. (fully configurable as expected) So even if you can't reach an NTP server, the service will keep your clock disciplined once it has been running for several hours. 

And I would recommend installing the Meinberg NTP Monitor application too: https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp-server-monitor.htm

Clearly in the land of FT modes, this is more than adequate and some might argue an overkill (bug we like overkill in Amateur Radio).  If you use NTP servers close to you, you can get sub millisecond accuracy. :)

Max NG7M



On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 09:53 AM, Don--AE4DW wrote:
keir.net/neutron.html


--
73 Phil GM3ZZA


locked Re: CAT issue with FTDX1200 / 3000 #Cat_RigControl

Roger
 

I've placed this topic into moderation before it degenerates any further. Please ensure future comments are helpful to the WSJTX community.



Roger, GW4HZA, moderator