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locked Re: Clarification for Hound Mode

Jim Cooper
 

On 26 Feb 2020 at 15:38, reg williams wrote:

> I see many stations being worked by
> VP8PJ in the band activity column but
> as of yet I have not seen the
> operator calling cq. I guess this is
> because his signal is to weak at my
> qth, which, at the moment I cannot
> detect any signal in his portion of
> the band 200Hz - 1000Hz, so until his
> signal is strong enough with me I will
> not get that cq call for me to
> respond and be able to join the crowd
> to work him. Just some clarification
> please to see if I am interpreting
> the situation correctly. Reg

You are basically correct !!

At my QTH (NNJ) their signal has always
been weak to nil ... the highest I recall seeing
was about a -8db for short times. Most of the
time it is -12 to -18 !!

They do not call CQ very often; I suppose they
figure everyone knows who and where they are.

One thing I have noted is that when they do call CQ,
they usually do it with ONE CHANNEL, so that all
their power goes into the one channel and it is the
strongest you will hear them.

You DO NOT have to wait for them to call CQ, however;
just type the call into the "DX Call" window and then
click on "Generate Std Msgs" on the right side. All
your Tx formats will be set and you are ready to start
the frustrating mission of calling and calling and calling!!

I was lucky last night to catch them on 7.056 shortly
after they started there, so the crowd was very small
and the actually heard me !!

btw, when I work a station as special as they are,
I ALWAYS stop the "Monitor" (stop the scrolling) and
take a screen shot .jpg or .png GRAPHIC file of the
RR73 line !!   Especially when they say that any questions
about 'not in log' will not be resolved until long after the
DXpedition ends ...  it does not good to save the .log file,
or the .adi file, or even the ALL.TXT file -- because they
can all be changed with a text editor.  But a graphic screen
shot is much harder to modify convincingly!  (I have had a
couple of occaisons where the QSL Manager for a group
has accepted the screen shot as proof of the QSO.)

Good luck chasing VP8PJ ...  you still have a few days.

Jim  W2JC


  


locked Re: Clarification for Hound Mode

Reino Talarmo
 

Hi Reg,
Most important is that you see Fox transmissions. Secondly you answering CQ is best, but you may as well call Fox as soon as you see a RR73 to somebody and no additional report to somebody else. Or just call Fox, but you need to decode his transmission; the first rule.
Good luck!
73, Reino oh3mA


I have used WSJT-X for some months now and have enjoyed using it. I have never used the fox/hound mode, so this is my first use of it, to try and work VP8PJ ft8 mode. I have set up hound mode correctly for the software and radio settings and will be transmitting higher up from 1000Hz. The radio is set for split operation. My best band for monitoring appears to be 40m so I have been listening very late at night for some hours. I see many stations being worked by VP8PJ in the band activity column but as of yet I have not seen the operator calling cq. I guess this is because his signal is to weak at my qth, which, at the moment I cannot detect any signal in his portion of the band 200Hz - 1000Hz, so until his signal is strong enough with me I will not get that cq call for me to respond and be able to join the crowd to work him. Just some clarification please to see if I am interpreting the situation correctly.
Reg


locked Re: F&H question

kd6ww
 

John:

I am not sure your question was answered.

I see the same thing when calling in the current version but not a prior version.  it may be an unfixed bug.   I just reclick enable.

The fox will transmit on multiple frequencies in the 300-600 range.   Just click on him once and it does not matter which of the frequencies he transmits on.  If you are called, you frequency will shift to match the proper one for him.   Make sure that your initially calling frequency is greater than 1000 or he will not see you.   I usually aim for about 1200.

73 Bruce
KD6WW

--- jmorphet@... wrote:

From: "John Morphet" <jmorphet@...>
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] F&H question
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 08:53:35 -0800

I am new to using fox and hound. I was trying it out yesterday. In hound mode, WSJT-X would transmit the TX1 message a few times and then stop. Is that normal? Should I just enable transmit again?

I also noticed that fox was changing frequency. What would be the best way to adjust so that the RX Frequency window will show what he is doing? Normally I would just double click on one of his calls, but I am not sure if that creates problems in fox and hound mode.

John, WØZI


locked Clarification for Hound Mode

reg williams
 

I have used WSJT-X for some months now and have enjoyed using it. I have never used the fox/hound mode, so this is my first use of it, to try and work VP8PJ ft8 mode. I have set up hound mode correctly for the software and radio settings and will be transmitting higher up from 1000Hz. The radio is set for split operation. My best band for monitoring appears to be 40m so I have been listening very late at night for some hours. I see many stations being worked by VP8PJ in the band activity column but as of yet I have not seen the operator calling cq. I guess this is because his signal is to weak at my qth, which, at the moment I cannot detect any signal in his portion of the band 200Hz - 1000Hz, so until his signal is strong enough with me I will not get that cq call for me to respond and be able to join the crowd to work him. Just some clarification please to see if I am interpreting the situation correctly.
Reg


locked Re: Working DX Stations

Jim Cooper
 

On 26 Feb 2020 at 21:20, Irwin Darack wrote:

Today I attempted to work the VP8PJ
station on 14.090. I am pretty good at
FT8, but totally confused on the
protocol. In the Decode box I see all
the stations calling, but do not see
the VP8PJ responding or calling.

Any suggestions where to look would be appreciated.
The fox will always be BELOW 1000 Hz, and
callers have to be above 1000 Hz ...

At least at my QTH, VP8PJ is always quite week ...
I never saw them stronger than about -11 db ...

They can use anywhere from one to five channels,
and their signal goes down a lot when they use
more than one channel (notice, they always call CQ
using one channel !!)

If you don't copy the fox between about 250 Hz
and 650 Hz then you are probably not receiving
them, in which case there is no point in calling them.

fwiw, I spent all afternoon and most of the early
evening Wednesday getting DECENT copy on VP8PJ
but was never able to get even a first response from
them ... I guess 40 watts to a hex beam just
ain't makin' it !!

w2jc


locked Re: Station already worked, clarification

Herb Blue - WB8ASI
 

See attached.  Do you use JTAlert?  It's great.  I let JTAlert do the coloring in conjunction with WSJTX.  Green for new CQ.  Grayed out for Worked B4.  Red to LOTW.  Works great for me.  73, Herb WB8ASI

On February 26, 2020 at 4:37 PM "Ryan Trullinger (KC0QNB)" <rt83021@...> wrote:

I have the show DXCC, grid and worked before status checked, I have seen callsigns show up that I know that I have worked, before, what differentiates worked before status from a standard green CQ line? I'm a newbie, but it would make sense to make a worked before. I don't see an option in the Decode Highlighting dialog, to do that. I am looking at the manual this very minute, but not finding what i am looking for.


Ryan, KC0QNB, DN90WW. Gothenburg, NE

 


locked Re: Alternate F1-F6 bindings

Hank Garretson
 

Thanks Steve.

Contest Exuberantly,

Hank, W6SX


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:10 PM Steven Weeks via Groups.Io <swweeks=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
"I've searched documentation and have found nothing on Alternate F1-F6 bindings. I can select it under Settings/General, but what does it do. How does one use it in various situations?"
 
 
I had the same problem but finally found this in another document describing FT4 on the website:
 

For keyboard control of transmitted messages, check the box Alternate F1–F6 bindings on the Settings | General tab. In typical contest-style operation you can then hit function key F1 to solicit a QSO by sending CQ. To respond to a CQ and send your

contest exchange, double-click on the decoded message. Alternatively, you can click on Best S+P and let the selection algorithm choose a station to call. Auto Seq and Call 1st checkboxes behave as in FT8, and thus the remainder of a minimal QSO can

continue without further operator action. Function keys F2F5 may be used to send messages displayed in entry fields for Tx2 – Tx5 on tab 1, at bottom right of the main window. Function key F6 toggles the checked status of Call 1st, and key combination

Alt+B

can be used to toggle the armed status of Best S+P.

 

73, Steve AA8SW



locked Re: Set up cq for specific area

Herb Blue - WB8ASI
 

I've seen calls for 2 states without a space....CQ NYMI....CQ NDWY... It doesn't take long to figure it out.  Then poor Delaware need 3 characters...CQ DEL... or  CQ DE just looks like a normal CQ.  GL & 73, Herb WB8ASI

On February 26, 2020 at 7:56 PM Bruce Goldstein <wa3afs@...> wrote:

Thank you for the suggestion.  Will try it next time.

73
 -- Bruce Goldstein, WA3AFS

   AEC, Albany County

    ASEC, Eastern NY

    SKYWARN Regional Coordinator, NWS, Albany, NY

     Net Manager, ENY ARES/RACES Section Net

    

 


locked Re: Working DX Stations

neil_zampella <neilz@...>
 

Are you using DXPedition mode (Fox & Hound) ?    You may want to review the DXpedition User Guide found here:

https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 2/26/2020 9:20 PM, Irwin Darack wrote:

Today I attempted to work the  VP8PJ station on 14.090. I am pretty good at FT8, but totally confused on the protocol. In the Decode box I see all the stations calling, but do not see the VP8PJ responding or calling.

Any suggestions where to look would be appreciated.

Thanks, Irwin KD3TB 
--
Irwin KD3TB


    


locked Re: Working DX Stations

George J Molnar, KF2T
 

First ensure you are in Fox/Hound mode.

The Fox (DX Station) will ALWAYS transmit first/even. If you don’t hear him, don’t call.

You must call above above 1000 Hz and have CAT control set up. When the DX responds to you, you will be shifted out of the pileup to a working frequency to complete the QSO.

Watchdog times are much shorter.

George J Molnar
Arlington, Virginia, USA
(702) 767-5420
KF2T   -   FM18lu














On Feb 26, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Irwin Darack <idarack@...> wrote:

Today I attempted to work the  VP8PJ station on 14.090. I am pretty good at FT8, but totally confused on the protocol. In the Decode box I see all the stations calling, but do not see the VP8PJ responding or calling.

Any suggestions where to look would be appreciated.

Thanks, Irwin KD3TB 
--
Irwin KD3TB



locked Re: Whoops my log disappeared

George Armstrong
 

James,

In WSJT-X, click File, click "Open Log Directory". Drag your adi onto the log directory; you are done.

GA


From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> on behalf of James Mockley via Groups.Io <jmockley@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:42 PM
To: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io>
Subject: [WSJTX] Whoops my log disappeared
 
I accidentally removed my adi file from the app. 
I still have the file on my desktop but can’t see a way to restore it.


locked Whoops my log disappeared

Jim W7JMM
 

I accidentally removed my adi file from the app. 
I still have the file on my desktop but can’t see a way to restore it.


locked Working DX Stations

Irwin Darack
 

Today I attempted to work the  VP8PJ station on 14.090. I am pretty good at FT8, but totally confused on the protocol. In the Decode box I see all the stations calling, but do not see the VP8PJ responding or calling.

Any suggestions where to look would be appreciated.

Thanks, Irwin KD3TB 
--
Irwin KD3TB


locked Re: Start-Time and End-Time of a FT8 QSO #FT8

Jim Shorney
 

It is up to the operator to ensure the accuracy of what goes into your log. Always.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 08:12:59 -0800
"Steinar Fremme" <steinar@...> wrote:

Sure I can , but why should it be necessary - I classify it as a bug in functionality.


locked Re: WSJT-X stopped transmitting

Amir K9CHP
 

Check under SETUP-FILE-AUDIO for the input and output and make sure the CODEC ones are picked. 

--

73 de Amir K9CHP

ARRL, Emergency Coordinator, Onondaga County, NY
Radio Amateurs of Greater Syracuse  www.ragsclub.org
Wilderness SAR www.wsar.org (ret.)
Eagle Valley Search Dogs www.evdogs.org (ret.)

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 18:05 <911eric@...> wrote:
Hi guys,

First of all, sorry for my English, as it is not my native language...

Have been an user of WSJT-X for more than 1 year now, like it, and everything's working fine....so far.

2 or 3 days ago, while QSO'ing, suddendly I noticed that the ALC was at 0 level. Tried to restart the software, the computer : same thing.
First thought it was a device failure (Signalink or TRX) so got in touch with my local repair guru and following his advice, tested another time with other programs (i.e. WinW and MSHV). Surprise: all is fine with them!
So definitely a software trouble...
Tried to uninstall/reinstall WSJT-X (with no luck as it seems I have not uninstalled everything cause when reinstalling noticed that my settings were still there) but nothing.

Any idea/solution ?
Thanks in advance.

73 de F4IEX Eric


locked Re: Set up cq for specific area

Bruce Goldstein
 

Thank you for the suggestion.  Will try it next time.

73
 -- Bruce Goldstein, WA3AFS

   AEC, Albany County

    ASEC, Eastern NY

    SKYWARN Regional Coordinator, NWS, Albany, NY

     Net Manager, ENY ARES/RACES Section Net

    


locked Re: Set up cq for specific area

Gary - AG0N
 

On Feb 26, 2020, at 16:39, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:

that's not correct for the FT8, FT4, and MSK144 modes. Those accept any word of up to four letters between the CQ and own callsign.
Thanks for the clarification on that Bill. I know there was a lot of discussion on that at the time but I didn’t realize where it finalized.

73, Gary - AG0N


locked Re: Set up cq for specific area

Gary - AG0N
 

I’m pretty sure you can only use one at a time. — Gary - AG0N

On Feb 26, 2020, at 16:25, Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

I tried such as CQ ND WY or CQ NE ND SD or other things like that but some did not work As were too many characters.


locked Re: Set up cq for specific area

Bill Somerville
 

On 26/02/2020 22:21, AG0N-3055 wrote:
On Feb 25, 2020, at 13:35, Martin G0HDB <marting0hdb@...> wrote:

For example, you could edit the Tx6 message so that it reads 'CQ ASIA KC0QNB <yourgrid>' or, to call North Dakota, 'CQ ND KC0QNB <yourgrid>’.
Too many characters.  That’s why CQ AS……  works better.  AS and others are “built-in” to the program and are recognized and dealt with.

Gary - AG0N


Gary,

that's not correct for the FT8, FT4, and MSK144 modes. Those accept any word of up to four letters between the CQ and own callsign. They also accept a three digit number in the same place, that is for specifying a listening frequency in kHz within the MHz that the call is made in. You can test this behaviour with the useful command line utility ft8code that is shipped alongside the WSJT-X executable. Here are some examples:

c:\>c:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\ft8code "cq a g4wjs io91"
    Message                               Decoded                             Err i3.n3
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1. CQ A G4WJS IO91                       CQ A G4WJS IO91                          1.  Standard msg

Message bits:
00000000000000000011111011000000010010001000000001111010000011111000010011001

Channel symbols (tones):
3140652000000744005530024507405422623140652735730242517204160442767132533140652

c:\>c:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\ft8code "cq ab g4wjs io91"
    Message                               Decoded                             Err i3.n3
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1. CQ AB G4WJS IO91                      CQ AB G4WJS IO91                         1.  Standard msg

Message bits:
00000000000000000100000010000000010010001000000001111010000011111000010011001

Channel symbols (tones):
3140652000001005005530024507405431733140652606135021640063310541100656723140652

c:\>c:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\ft8code "cq abc g4wjs io91"
    Message                               Decoded                             Err i3.n3
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1. CQ ABC G4WJS IO91                     CQ ABC G4WJS IO91                        1.  Standard msg

Message bits:
00000000000000000110111111010000010010001000000001111010000011111000010011001

Channel symbols (tones):
3140652000001674505530024507405423533140652572104547125470773723257563653140652

c:\>c:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\ft8code "cq abcd g4wjs io91"
    Message                               Decoded                             Err i3.n3
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1. CQ ABCD G4WJS IO91                    CQ ABCD G4WJS IO91                       1.  Standard msg

Message bits:
00000000000001010110110101010000010010001000000001111010000011111000010011001

Channel symbols (tones):
3140652000036663505530024507405432043140652146543333340075641012755734153140652

c:\>c:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\ft8code "cq 456 g4wjs io91"
    Message                               Decoded                             Err i3.n3
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1. CQ 456 G4WJS IO91                     CQ 456 G4WJS IO91                        1.  Standard msg

Message bits:
00000000000000000001110010110000010010001000000001111010000011111000010011001

Channel symbols (tones):
3140652000000256505530024507405437153140652367210375052735331742427254373140652

c:\>

Note that mixed letters and numbers are not permitted, nor are symbols like '/', '.', or '?'.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: Set up cq for specific area

Gilbert Baron
 

It would be helpful if all of these built in codes were documented clearly. Maybe they are and I missed it.. While working for FT8 WAS I tried such as CQ ND WY  or CQ NE ND SD  or other things like that but some did not work As were too many characters.

 

FT8 is really great for increasing contact count and entity count but the 13 character limit is often very frustrating. For instance I would at times like to send a thank you or some short message with the final  73.

 

Outlook Laptop Gil W0MN

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44.08226N 92.51265W EN34rb

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of neil_zampella
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 17:10
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Set up cq for specific area

 

I'm fairly sure that ASIA, DEL,  and so on will work with the most recent versions of WSJT-X.

Neil, KNEILZ

On 2/26/2020 5:21 PM, AG0N-3055 wrote:

 
 
On Feb 25, 2020, at 13:35, Martin G0HDB <marting0hdb@...> wrote:
 
For example, you could edit the Tx6 message so that it reads 'CQ ASIA KC0QNB <yourgrid>' or, to call North Dakota, 'CQ ND KC0QNB <yourgrid>’.
 
Too many characters.  That’s why CQ AS……  works better.  AS and others are “built-in” to the program and are recognized and dealt with.
 
Gary - AG0N
 
 



 

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