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locked Re: Apologies

Russ Ravella
 

This, of course, is extremely good news! Thanks for the clarification.


On Feb 21, 2020, at 1:24 PM, D. Scott MacKenzie <kb0fhp@...> wrote:



Sounds like Monty Python:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcPBE5PXhs

 

 

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Hill AA5AU
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:23 PM
To: WSJT <wsjtx@groups.io>
Subject: [WSJTX] Apologies

 

Earlier this week I announced that Tom Morrison, K5TM, had passed away. Fortunately he is still alive and well and my announcement was in error. I just heard from him today.

 

I apologized to him and now am apologizing to the group for my mistake.

 

Tom is the one who wrote the code for the FT8 Roundup (2018) and FT Roundup (2019) online certificates that are available on rttycontesting.com.

 

73, Don AA5AU

 

 



locked Re: Computer to radio connection YAESU 857/897

Frank Mellott
 

Good afternoon

I have an 857D which is set up like the 897D.  Do you happen to have an antenna tuner attached?  I have an LDG YT-100 and has a spare CAT port so that you can connect the tuner and CAT simultaneously.  On the rear of the radio you have a DATA jack for the Signalink and the CAT/linear jack for the CAT computer cable.

So yes, you can connect CAT and Signalink simultaneously.

Caveat:

I started with a Rigblaster plug and play.  Supposedly awesome sound card, but I could not get it to work with my 857D and in my internet searches no one else could either.  The Signalink definitely works and I have have made several contacts with it. With FT8 before version 1.9 CAT was recommended but not required. When I switched to 1.9 CAT was pretty much required and I could not figure out the proper settings for the 857D and Signalink to work with WSJT-X 1.9.  I am half convinced I may have a bad CAT port, but even more convinced the problem is with the operator.

The linear jack for the CAT is on the back closest the power cable. The one to the right as you face the back is the data jack for the Signalink. They are very similar but not the same plug.

One of my winter/spring projects is to get the 857D and CAT to work. Been over a year since I messed with it.

The newer FTDX1200 is much more computer/CAT friendly and I have a few hundred FT8 contacts on t.  but the now 15 year or so old 857/897 family takes a little more work it seems.


Frank

KB3PQT


locked Re: Computer to radio connection

Bill Somerville
 

On 21/02/2020 20:23, Richard DeRose wrote:
The signial link is connected to the data on the radio No place left to connect the computer to.

Richard DeRose

Richard,

there are two sockets on the back of the FT-817/857/897(D) rigs. One for DATA AFSK audio and PTT, the other for CAT control:

You need a CAT interface cable if you want CAT control of your rig.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: Computer to radio connection

John
 

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Richard DeRose <dderose911@...>
Date: February 21, 2020 at 3:23 PM


The signial link is connected to the data on the radio No place left to
connect the computer to.

Richard DeRose
561-441-6376
102 Blackjack Lane
Burleson, Texas 76028
KG5FNS

Life's journey is not
to arrive safely at the grave
in a well preserved body
but rather to skid in sideways
totally worn out, shouting
Holy Cow What a ride.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 10:47 AM Bob Lewis <aa4pb@...> wrote:

You have to add a connection between your rig’s CAT control and the
computer. The SignaLink provides audio and PTT connections only. It does
not include any interface for rig control (frequency, mode, etc).



*From:* WSJTX@groups.io [mailto:WSJTX@groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Richard
DeRose
*Sent:* Friday, February 21, 2020 9:11 AM
*To:* WSJTX@groups.io
*Subject:* [WSJTX] Computer to radio connection



I am using a PC with Windows 10 and WSJTX connected to a ft897 through a
signal link. I cannot get the computer to connect to get the frequency.
What settings are required.?

Dick DeRose
dderose911@...
561-441-6376
KG5FNS

Life's journey is not
to arrive safely at the grave
in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
totaly worn out, shouting
"Holy Cow.........What a ride!"


locked Re: Apologies

D. Scott MacKenzie
 

Sounds like Monty Python:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcPBE5PXhs

 

 

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Hill AA5AU
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 2:23 PM
To: WSJT <wsjtx@groups.io>
Subject: [WSJTX] Apologies

 

Earlier this week I announced that Tom Morrison, K5TM, had passed away. Fortunately he is still alive and well and my announcement was in error. I just heard from him today.

 

I apologized to him and now am apologizing to the group for my mistake.

 

Tom is the one who wrote the code for the FT8 Roundup (2018) and FT Roundup (2019) online certificates that are available on rttycontesting.com.

 

73, Don AA5AU

 

 


locked Re: Computer to radio connection

Richard DeRose
 

The signial link is connected to the data on the radio No place left to connect the computer to.

Richard DeRose
561-441-6376
102 Blackjack Lane
Burleson, Texas 76028
KG5FNS

Life's journey is not
to arrive safely at the grave
in a well preserved body
but rather to skid in sideways
totally worn out, shouting
Holy Cow    What a ride.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 10:47 AM Bob Lewis <aa4pb@...> wrote:

You have to add a connection between your rig’s CAT control and the computer. The SignaLink  provides audio and PTT connections only. It does not include any interface for rig control (frequency, mode, etc).

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io [mailto:WSJTX@groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard DeRose
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:11 AM
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] Computer to radio connection

 

I am using a PC with Windows 10 and WSJTX connected to a ft897 through a signal link. I cannot get the computer to connect to get the frequency. What settings are required.?

Dick DeRose
dderose911@...
561-441-6376
KG5FNS

Life's journey is not
to arrive safely at the grave
in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
totaly worn out, shouting
"Holy Cow.........What a ride!"



locked Re: 60 meters: Operating guidelines for FT8

Richard Bertrand Larson
 

So if I tune my radio to channel 3 @5357.0 mhz with a center frequency of
5358.5 mhz using FT8 . The FT8 modulation scheme is 8-FSK i.e. an 8-bit transmission using 8 different audio. The tones separated by just 6.25 Hz, giving an overall transmission bandwidth under optimal conditions of 50 Hz , so my question is with a data BW of 50hz then with a BW for the channel of 2.8 khz should it not be very easy to be in overall BW compliance ????

On 2/21/2020 7:41 AM, Ria, N2RJ wrote:

I’m not aware of any complaints by the NTIA against radio amateurs for using FT8 on 60m.

The volunteer monitor program nor the FCC are sending out violation notices. I keep abreast of enforcement issues and I’ve asked numerous departments at ARRL. This isn’t a concern with anyone there.

ARRL doesn’t have any awards for 60m contacts. So anyone doing 60m contacts there does it for their own enjoyment.

73
Ria, N2RJ 

    


locked Re: 60 meters: Operating guidelines for FT8

Ria, N2RJ
 

We haven’t petitioned the FCC and NTIA, AFAIK. 

(but I can verify that)

73
Ria, N2RJ 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 1:35 PM Larry Burke <wi5a@...> wrote:

Thank you, Ria, for your informed response!

 

In your related e-mail you state: “Some countries do not have channelization on 60m. In 9Y I can use 1.5kw from 5.25 to 5.45MHz without restriction. It’s just another HF band.” Exactly. Also interesting that this is possible in the Americas (Trinidad & Tobago, Grenada, etc.)  with no apparent issues.

 

Are there any efforts underway to make the band continuous in the US? The IARU recommended this back in 2015, albeit implemented at 15 watts in most countries. Some basic reg changes would sure clear up much of the confusion with the use of FT8 and other modes on this band.

 

BTW, a good compilation of authorizations by country can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60-meter_band

 

 

Larry K5RK

 

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ria, N2RJ
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 7:42 AM
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 60 meters: Operating guidelines for FT8

 

I’m not aware of any complaints by the NTIA against radio amateurs for using FT8 on 60m.

The volunteer monitor program nor the FCC are sending out violation notices. I keep abreast of enforcement issues and I’ve asked numerous departments at ARRL. This isn’t a concern with anyone there.

ARRL doesn’t have any awards for 60m contacts. So anyone doing 60m contacts there does it for their own enjoyment.

73
Ria, N2RJ 



locked Apologies

Don Hill AA5AU
 

Earlier this week I announced that Tom Morrison, K5TM, had passed away. Fortunately he is still alive and well and my announcement was in error. I just heard from him today.

I apologized to him and now am apologizing to the group for my mistake.

Tom is the one who wrote the code for the FT8 Roundup (2018) and FT Roundup (2019) online certificates that are available on rttycontesting.com.

73, Don AA5AU



locked Re: 60 meters: Operating guidelines for FT8

Larry Burke K5RK
 

Thank you, Ria, for your informed response!

 

In your related e-mail you state: “Some countries do not have channelization on 60m. In 9Y I can use 1.5kw from 5.25 to 5.45MHz without restriction. It’s just another HF band.” Exactly. Also interesting that this is possible in the Americas (Trinidad & Tobago, Grenada, etc.)  with no apparent issues.

 

Are there any efforts underway to make the band continuous in the US? The IARU recommended this back in 2015, albeit implemented at 15 watts in most countries. Some basic reg changes would sure clear up much of the confusion with the use of FT8 and other modes on this band.

 

BTW, a good compilation of authorizations by country can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60-meter_band

 

 

Larry K5RK

 

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ria, N2RJ
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 7:42 AM
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] 60 meters: Operating guidelines for FT8

 

I’m not aware of any complaints by the NTIA against radio amateurs for using FT8 on 60m.

The volunteer monitor program nor the FCC are sending out violation notices. I keep abreast of enforcement issues and I’ve asked numerous departments at ARRL. This isn’t a concern with anyone there.

ARRL doesn’t have any awards for 60m contacts. So anyone doing 60m contacts there does it for their own enjoyment.

73
Ria, N2RJ 


locked Re: Computer to radio connection

 

Hi Mike:

My name is Tom and my call is N8TL. I wanted to pass along to you some information that you might not be aware of.  The previous owner of the W8DN call sign was Russell Flora from Sylvania, Ohio.  Located on outskirts of Toledo.  In my  teen days, I would attend Mobile Radio Club meetings at Russ's garage. Russ was a good friend and Ham Radio Mentor. His primary mode was AM on 160 meters. There were a lot of 160 meter mobile hams in those days.  This time frame was the late 1950's to the mid to late 1960's.  Thought you might be interested in the history.

Regards, and, 73,  Tom N8TL


On 2020-02-21 11:43 a.m., Mike Rhodes wrote:

Signalink does nothing more than provide the audio component for digital modes. To read the frequency and/or control your radio will require CAT connection and appropriate interface.

Mike / W8DN

On 2/21/2020 9:11 AM, Richard DeRose wrote:
I am using a PC with Windows 10 and WSJTX connected to a ft897 through a signal link. I cannot get the computer to connect to get the frequency. What settings are required.?

Dick DeRose
dderose911@...
561-441-6376
KG5FNS

Life's journey is not
to arrive safely at the grave
in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
totaly worn out, shouting
"Holy Cow.........What a ride!"




    


locked Re: 1 minute Re: 60 meters: Operating guidelines for FT8

Amir K9CHP
 

I used the band once or twice, for a MARS exercise, on phone. I don't think FT8 is really compatible with the very unclear regulations on that band. Don't look me up there. There is plenty of room elsewhere.

--

73 de Amir K9CHP

ARRL, Emergency Coordinator (EC)
Liverpool Amateur Repeater Club www.W2CM.org
Radio Amateurs of Greater Syracuse  www.ragsclub.org
Wilderness SAR (ret.) www.wsar.org
Eagle Valley Search Dogs (ret.) www.evdogs.org

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 11:35 Ria, N2RJ <rjairam@...> wrote:

The source code is open, and many will just reverse engineer and disable this. Not everyone uses WSJTX for FT8 anyway. Not many of the full auto robot guys. They use their own software like MSHV or WSJT-Z which is a fork of WSJT-X.

JT and the dev team have taken out 60m from the default frequencies anyway. People are adding it back in themselves or using other software.

The only real solution is to use one of the other channels, until another DX channel opens up or we get rid of channelization.  Some countries do not have channelization on 60m. In 9Y I can use 1.5kw from 5.25 to 5.45MHz without restriction. It’s just another HF band.

There is no ARRL award for operation on that band. So there is less incentive to operate there anyway. 

73,
Ria
N2RJ



locked Re: Computer to radio connection

Bob Lewis
 

You have to add a connection between your rig’s CAT control and the computer. The SignaLink  provides audio and PTT connections only. It does not include any interface for rig control (frequency, mode, etc).

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io [mailto:WSJTX@groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard DeRose
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:11 AM
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] Computer to radio connection

 

I am using a PC with Windows 10 and WSJTX connected to a ft897 through a signal link. I cannot get the computer to connect to get the frequency. What settings are required.?

Dick DeRose
dderose911@...
561-441-6376
KG5FNS

Life's journey is not
to arrive safely at the grave
in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
totaly worn out, shouting
"Holy Cow.........What a ride!"


locked Re: Computer to radio connection

ve3ki
 

The SignaLink does not have any connection for radio control. It is only a sound card for audio plus a PTT signal derived from the audio.

You need a separate connection for radio control. In the case of the FT897, that would be from a serial port or USB-to-serial adapter from the computer, connected to the radio's CAT/linear connector through a CT-62 or equivalent adapter.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 11:35 AM, Richard DeRose wrote:
I am using a PC with Windows 10 and WSJTX connected to a ft897 through a signal link. I cannot get the computer to connect to get the frequency. What settings are required.?

Dick DeRose
dderose911@...
561-441-6376
KG5FNS

Life's journey is not
to arrive safely at the grave
in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
totaly worn out, shouting
"Holy Cow.........What a ride!"


locked Re: Computer to radio connection

Mike / W8DN
 

Signalink does nothing more than provide the audio component for digital modes. To read the frequency and/or control your radio will require CAT connection and appropriate interface.

Mike / W8DN

On 2/21/2020 9:11 AM, Richard DeRose wrote:

I am using a PC with Windows 10 and WSJTX connected to a ft897 through a signal link. I cannot get the computer to connect to get the frequency. What settings are required.?

Dick DeRose
dderose911@...
561-441-6376
KG5FNS

Life's journey is not
to arrive safely at the grave
in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
totaly worn out, shouting
"Holy Cow.........What a ride!"


    


locked Re: 60 meters: Operating guidelines for FT8

Floyd Sense
 

Gary - K7EK: In the interest of improving our knowledge of 60M operation, can you tell us the nature of the communications you are involved in from the government station?  Who do you communicate with and what kind of information is exchanged?  Are these regularly scheduled contacts, or are they broadcasts or do they occur when some specific emergency related event occurs? 

73, Floyd - K8AC


locked Computer to radio connection

Richard DeRose
 

I am using a PC with Windows 10 and WSJTX connected to a ft897 through a signal link. I cannot get the computer to connect to get the frequency. What settings are required.?

Dick DeRose
dderose911@...
561-441-6376
KG5FNS

Life's journey is not
to arrive safely at the grave
in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
totaly worn out, shouting
"Holy Cow.........What a ride!"


locked Re: 1 minute Re: 60 meters: Operating guidelines for FT8

Ria, N2RJ
 

The source code is open, and many will just reverse engineer and disable this. Not everyone uses WSJTX for FT8 anyway. Not many of the full auto robot guys. They use their own software like MSHV or WSJT-Z which is a fork of WSJT-X.

JT and the dev team have taken out 60m from the default frequencies anyway. People are adding it back in themselves or using other software.

The only real solution is to use one of the other channels, until another DX channel opens up or we get rid of channelization.  Some countries do not have channelization on 60m. In 9Y I can use 1.5kw from 5.25 to 5.45MHz without restriction. It’s just another HF band.

There is no ARRL award for operation on that band. So there is less incentive to operate there anyway. 

73,
Ria
N2RJ


locked Re: 60 meters: Operating guidelines for FT8

Ria, N2RJ
 

I’m not aware of any complaints by the NTIA against radio amateurs for using FT8 on 60m.

The volunteer monitor program nor the FCC are sending out violation notices. I keep abreast of enforcement issues and I’ve asked numerous departments at ARRL. This isn’t a concern with anyone there.

ARRL doesn’t have any awards for 60m contacts. So anyone doing 60m contacts there does it for their own enjoyment.

73
Ria, N2RJ 


locked Re: 60 meters: Operating - FT8

Kai-KE4PT
 

You monitor the channel in upper SSB mode.
Cheers
Kai, KE4PT

On 2/20/2020 19:15, K8BL BOB LIDDY wrote:

I'm considering operating FT8 on 60M this evening.

How will Govt Users inform me of their planned usage
so that I can go QRT?

I hope my 10W to an end-fed LW at 20 Ft. doesn't cause
too much interference.

de  Bob  K8BL/5







On Thursday, February 20, 2020, 04:02:30 PM CST, Bonnie KQ6XA <bonniekq6xa@...> wrote: 





The channel at 5357 kHz USB has constant FT8 transmissions, 24/7/365, worldwide. 
Currently, 5357-FT8 is not being shared properly by Secondary hams with Primary users. 

Solution: The developers of FT8 can add a lockout feature in FT8 for 1 minute of silence at the top of every 5 minutes, when tuned to 5 MHz. 
This would provide a viable time window for Primary users to communicate. 
It also would avoid the Amateur Radio Service losing its valuable Secondary allocation on 60 meters. 

If the developers of FT8 don't act soon:

    1. Primary users won't allow hams to continuously take over their allocation much longer. 
    2. Some Primary user will probably put multi-kilowatts on it to simply take their allocation back. (We can see this starting to happen already with the HF radars)
    3. Primary users will oppose Amateur Service efforts at ITU conferences to increase the worldwide power allocation from 15 Watts to 100 Watts. 
    4. Governments which not approve allowing their hams to use 60 meters, or will drastically curtail their use of it (see Australia)
5357 is the ONLY international Amateur Radio Service channel on 60 meters.
Be nice to it. 

-Bonnie KQ6XA