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locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

Herb Blue - WB8ASI
 

I agree running split is best.  Allows you better keep yourself in the clear.  On a quiet band I sometimes cozy up next to the desired station and let the green and red brackets just touch, so the automatic Halt TX will kick in if the station calls someone else.  73, Herb WB8ASI

On February 18, 2020 at 2:15 PM "Philip Rose via Groups.Io" <pvrose@...> wrote:

I was about to ask whether it was better to stay on a single TX frequency or reply on the calling station's frequency. I had rationalised it in my mind that because FT modes have defined transmit periods, operating split frequency QSOs does not waste frequency. Operating split allows you to be separate from others calling the same station. I have that checked all the time.

73 Phil GM3ZZA

On 18 Feb 2020 17:56, Mike Rhodes <weightdn@...> wrote:

Not sure why you would need to track the Rx freq with the Tx freq Russell. If you do not have the Tx freq held, when you double click on the station you want to call, the Tx will go to that freq. However, the current 'best practice' (so to speak) is to pick what appears to you to be a clear freq and stay on that freq. Granted, your chosen Tx freq may not be clear on the other end but it is the best you can do given that you can't hear from the other Op's end of things. Is there a special reason why you want Rx and Tx to track? Are you using CAT control and have 'Rig' selected in the settings? This will give you the best performance.

Mike / W8DN

On 2/18/2020 12:39 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

 

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?

I'm not operating split mode.


Russell NC5O  

 




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On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:

 

Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O


Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


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locked Re: Computer recommendations

 

Has Lenovo the same problem as Huawei?

73 Phil GM3ZZA

On 18 Feb 2020 18:38, Jim Brown <k9yc@...> wrote:

I'll repeat my recommendation of a Thinkpad, either new from the Lenovo
website or a refurb off-lease unit from a vendor like NewEgg. I've used
nothing but Thinkpads for almost 20 years. My last "big iron" was a dual
processor Dell that I bought to do heavy-duty acoustic modeling in 1999.
It finally died a few months ago. The Thinkpads did that modeling too,
are far more compact, and don't require an outboard UPS.

My shack computer is a Thinkpad T540 with an i7 processor and 16GB; it
came with only 8GB, and didn't allow wide tolerance decoding of MSK144
until I borught the RAM up to 16GB. OTOH, the used super-light weight
X230 Thinkpad I bought for members of our team to carry up a long and
difficult hiking trail to activate a rare grid runs WSJT-X just fine
with only 8GB, and RAM can't be added to it. Both of those machines run
Win7-64 Pro, and both can drive big external monitors.

For both machines I've bought used docking stations, which are a good
way to get extra ports, and which clean up wiring when used in the shack.

73, Jim K9YC

On 2/17/2020 5:54 PM, eam1212003 via Groups.Io wrote:
> It’s just about time to put my old Dell/Windows 7 computer to
> sleep...looking for inexpensive suggestions of a new computer/laptop
> that can comfortably handle HRD and WSJT..




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locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

 

I was about to ask whether it was better to stay on a single TX frequency or reply on the calling station's frequency. I had rationalised it in my mind that because FT modes have defined transmit periods, operating split frequency QSOs does not waste frequency. Operating split allows you to be separate from others calling the same station. I have that checked all the time.

73 Phil GM3ZZA

On 18 Feb 2020 17:56, Mike Rhodes <weightdn@...> wrote:

Not sure why you would need to track the Rx freq with the Tx freq Russell. If you do not have the Tx freq held, when you double click on the station you want to call, the Tx will go to that freq. However, the current 'best practice' (so to speak) is to pick what appears to you to be a clear freq and stay on that freq. Granted, your chosen Tx freq may not be clear on the other end but it is the best you can do given that you can't hear from the other Op's end of things. Is there a special reason why you want Rx and Tx to track? Are you using CAT control and have 'Rig' selected in the settings? This will give you the best performance.

Mike / W8DN

On 2/18/2020 12:39 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?

I'm not operating split mode.


Russell NC5O  




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Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM

Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx


On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:

Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O


Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


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locked FT-DX101D

Michael Black
 

Has anybody successfully set up an FT-DX101D with WSJT-X?

Helping a friend and we can't set the audio out level for the PSK/DATA nor can we get DTR PTT to work.

Also, the TX1 command over CAT does not work even though the CAT manual for the claims it is supported.

Figured somebody might have already figured this all out otherwise I'll have to bug Yaesu about it.

de Mike W9MDB



locked Re: Computer recommendations

Gary - AG0N
 

On Feb 18, 2020, at 07:46, Kai-KE4PT <k.siwiak@...> wrote:

It doesn't take much of a computer to run WSJT-X, but you do have to manage what else is running in the background, and what else is stealing focus away from WSJT-X.
Again, I would urge all of you commenting on how good your computer is with WSJT-X to not just go by how it runs on FT8. Are you going to stick to FT8 the rest of your life? The most intensive mode in WSJT-X is NOT FT8. If you ever get interested in meteor scatter, you’ll want to move to MSK144. Stick your mode on MSK144 and go up on six meters (50.260) and listen for awhile. You will see a “gauge” showing processor loading for each 15 or 30 second receive cycle. It will surprise you how much power it takes.

Many systems won’t hack it, especially when you go to DEEP DECODE. The handwriting is on the wall, and just like other things, the programs are going to require more and more horsepower as time and programming knowledge and ability move along.

Build the best computer you can afford, and know that it will work awhile before passing you by. If you don’t, you’ll just need to do it again sooner. Been there, done that!

73, Gary - AG0N


locked Re: Computer recommendations

Jim Brown
 

I'll repeat my recommendation of a Thinkpad, either new from the Lenovo website or a refurb off-lease unit from a vendor like NewEgg. I've used nothing but Thinkpads for almost 20 years. My last "big iron" was a dual processor Dell that I bought to do heavy-duty acoustic modeling in 1999. It finally died a few months ago. The Thinkpads did that modeling too, are far more compact, and don't require an outboard UPS.

My shack computer is a Thinkpad T540 with an i7 processor and 16GB; it came with only 8GB, and didn't allow wide tolerance decoding of MSK144 until I borught the RAM up to 16GB. OTOH, the used super-light weight X230 Thinkpad I bought for members of our team to carry up a long and difficult hiking trail to activate a rare grid runs WSJT-X just fine with only 8GB, and RAM can't be added to it. Both of those machines run Win7-64 Pro, and both can drive big external monitors.

For both machines I've bought used docking stations, which are a good way to get extra ports, and which clean up wiring when used in the shack.

73, Jim K9YC

On 2/17/2020 5:54 PM, eam1212003 via Groups.Io wrote:
It’s just about time to put my old Dell/Windows 7 computer to sleep...looking for inexpensive suggestions of a new computer/laptop that can comfortably handle HRD and WSJT..


locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

Mike / W8DN
 

Not sure why you would need to track the Rx freq with the Tx freq Russell. If you do not have the Tx freq held, when you double click on the station you want to call, the Tx will go to that freq. However, the current 'best practice' (so to speak) is to pick what appears to you to be a clear freq and stay on that freq. Granted, your chosen Tx freq may not be clear on the other end but it is the best you can do given that you can't hear from the other Op's end of things. Is there a special reason why you want Rx and Tx to track? Are you using CAT control and have 'Rig' selected in the settings? This will give you the best performance.

Mike / W8DN

On 2/18/2020 12:39 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?

I'm not operating split mode.


Russell NC5O  




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Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM

Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx


On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:

Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O


Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


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locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

Herb Blue - WB8ASI
 

They move together when you hold down the Ctrl key.   73, Herb WB8ASI

On February 18, 2020 at 12:39 PM Russell Blair <nc5opsk@...> wrote:

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?
I'm not operating split mode.

Russell NC5O  



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From: "Nc8q-mesh@..." < nc8q-mesh@...>
Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx

On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:
Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O

Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


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locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

Russell Blair <nc5opsk@...>
 

Ok well that did fix what I wanted it to, when I move the Rx I would like the Tx to move as well. ?
I'm not operating split mode.

Russell NC5O  



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------ Original Message ------
From: "Nc8q-mesh@..." <nc8q-mesh@...>
Sent: 2/18/2020 9:35:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Tx tracking Rx

On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:
Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O

Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


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locked Re: Computer recommendations

Paul Turner
 

Agreed. I run a Windows 10 64-bit on a 4th generation core-i5 with 8GB of RAM . When decoding FT8 I usually have MMSSTV running and lots of web browsing and/or Youtube going on and never miss a decode.

 

73, Paul G4IJE.

 

From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of groups@...
Sent: 18 February 2020 16:34
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Computer recommendations

 

That computer has much more power than what is needed to run WSJTX and other ham radio programs.

You need to look at what else is running in the background on that computer.
Depending on the release of Windows 10 that is running on the computer, and what other background processes are running on that computer, you might see your issue for some time after booting the computer.
If you have Google Chrome installed on the computer, it runs a background process called "Software Reporter Tool" that is intended to improve the Google user experience, HOWEVER, this process can take up to a half hour to run and will use considerable resources during that time.  Also, depending on the release of Windows 10, you may have some Windows background processes that run on startup and also take a considerable amount of time and system resources to run.  Later Windows updates improved but did not prevent this issue. There are various online forums that discuss these issues and how to workaround them. 

Just to give you an example of how much effect these processes can affect a computer, I was asked to check the secretary's computer at my church because she was saying that after a specific Windows 10 update, is was impossible to check email or do word processing for at least 10 minutes after booting the computer and its performance would be significantly degraded for as much as an hour.  After researching what was running on the computer at startup, and removing some unneeded processes, the computer is as usable as it was when new only two to three minutes after booting.

73
David
AK9F

p.s., before retiring 5 years ago, I was a tech support and application engineer, for 20 years, for a company that made computerized building control systems, so I do have some experience in the area of computer performance issues.


On 2/18/2020 1:59 AM, Markku SM5FLM wrote:

I bought a new HP computer only for HAM-programs. It's low end model (Intel i5-8600K, 3,6GHz, memory 16GHz), but I thought this would be enough. I was wrong!

I'm quite sure my computer can't handle the big load during the short interval (abt 2 seconds) when FT8-message are decoded. In the same time my DXlab applications also use they decoded messages for spot handling etc. During this interval the cpu usage goes up to 100%, and sometimes FT8-cycles are dropped/not detected. You can read in other postings about this problem.

My recommendation is to get a computer with the strongest cpu you can afford.

 

 


locked Re: Computer recommendations

groups@...
 

That computer has much more power than what is needed to run WSJTX and other ham radio programs.

You need to look at what else is running in the background on that computer.
Depending on the release of Windows 10 that is running on the computer, and what other background processes are running on that computer, you might see your issue for some time after booting the computer.
If you have Google Chrome installed on the computer, it runs a background process called "Software Reporter Tool" that is intended to improve the Google user experience, HOWEVER, this process can take up to a half hour to run and will use considerable resources during that time.  Also, depending on the release of Windows 10, you may have some Windows background processes that run on startup and also take a considerable amount of time and system resources to run.  Later Windows updates improved but did not prevent this issue. There are various online forums that discuss these issues and how to workaround them. 

Just to give you an example of how much effect these processes can affect a computer, I was asked to check the secretary's computer at my church because she was saying that after a specific Windows 10 update, is was impossible to check email or do word processing for at least 10 minutes after booting the computer and its performance would be significantly degraded for as much as an hour.  After researching what was running on the computer at startup, and removing some unneeded processes, the computer is as usable as it was when new only two to three minutes after booting.

73
David
AK9F

p.s., before retiring 5 years ago, I was a tech support and application engineer, for 20 years, for a company that made computerized building control systems, so I do have some experience in the area of computer performance issues.



On 2/18/2020 1:59 AM, Markku SM5FLM wrote:
I bought a new HP computer only for HAM-programs. It's low end model (Intel i5-8600K, 3,6GHz, memory 16GHz), but I thought this would be enough. I was wrong!

I'm quite sure my computer can't handle the big load during the short interval (abt 2 seconds) when FT8-message are decoded. In the same time my DXlab applications also use they decoded messages for spot handling etc. During this interval the cpu usage goes up to 100%, and sometimes FT8-cycles are dropped/not detected. You can read in other postings about this problem.

My recommendation is to get a computer with the strongest cpu you can afford.

    


locked Building on Dragonboard 410c arm64 fails at 87% with hamlib type declaration error - Error 2 #IssueReport

Erwin - PE3ES - F4VTQ
 
Edited

After a lot of trial and error setting up the build system and getting the right list of instructions the build failed at 87% with Error 2

typedef unsigned int vfo_t
typedef int vfo_t

from 2 different files of hamlib. What can I do to prevent this error?

>>EDIT : Indeed, edit the line 368 in rig.h and delete "unsigned", redo build instruction and the build runs on from 82% and is now almost finished

see picture


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locked Re: Computer recommendations

Gwen Patton <ardrhi@...>
 

It's not your computer, it's something else.

I run the linux version of WSJT-X on an 11" Chromebook, reflashed with GalliumOS. It has only 2GB of RAM, a 2.16ghz Celeron, and can handle FT8 and JS8Call just fine. I use it with my MDS Phaser digimode transceiver. So that I5 should be enough iron to do the job. Maybe it's your sound card? If you're relying on the sound card on the motherboard, maybe it's time to get a better one and slap it in an expansion slot. The sound processing on the Chromebook motherboard can't handle it, either, so I use a USB sound dongle. But even then, I had to try a couple to find one that could handle it.

There's a lot of people running it without trouble on RASPBERRY PI processors. If a Pi can handle it, your I5 can handle it. It's probably either the sound card, or like has been suggested, some bloatware or other processes in the background messing it up.

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 9:46 AM Kai-KE4PT <k.siwiak@...> wrote:
I still use a six-year old Dell Mini Inspiron 11 laptop with Windows 8.1. Native screen is 1366 by 768 pixels, 4 GB RAM and Intel Celeron N2815 CPU at 2 GHz. Fine for all WSJT-X modes, and FLDIGI modes.
I use TARDIS for time synchronization (with Mike Black's TimeFudge and WWV while in the field), and Signalink sound card with Yaesu FT817 transceiver.
It doesn't take much of a computer to run WSJT-X, but you do have to manage what else is running in the background, and what else is stealing focus away from WSJT-X.
Kindest regards,
Kai, KE4PT

I bought a new HP computer only for HAM-programs. It's low end model (Intel i5-8600K, 3,6GHz, memory 16GHz), but I thought this would be enough. I was wrong!

I'm quite sure my computer can't handle the big load during the short interval (abt 2 seconds) when FT8-message are decoded. In the same time my DXlab applications also use they decoded messages for spot handling etc. During this interval the cpu usage goes up to 100%, and sometimes FT8-cycles are dropped/not detected. You can read in other postings about this problem.

My recommendation is to get a computer with the strongest cpu you can afford.

    




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locked Re: Tx tracking Rx

Nc8q-mesh@gelm.net
 

On 2/18/20 10:25 AM, Russell Blair wrote:
Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O

Kind of.
There is a box to hold TX or not.
Look for 'Hold Tx Freq' box.


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locked Tx tracking Rx

Russell Blair <nc5opsk@...>
 

Years ago when I used this program there was a box to check for the Tx to track the Rx, Did I miss it here, I looked in the online help and found no help or I missed it there as well. So is there a way to set the Tx to track the Rx. ?

Russell NC5O



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locked Re: FT4 vs FT8

 

Thanks clicking Reset in the drop-down right-click menu did the trick as I hadn’t any custom frequencies in the list.

 

73 Phil GM3ZZA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: K8BL BOB LIDDY
Sent: 15 February 2020 02:29
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] FT4 vs FT8

 

Phil,

 

Right-click in the Frequency Table and a window will

appear showing what can be done. Very easy.

 

 

GL/73,   Bob  K8BL

 

 

 

  

On Friday, February 14, 2020, 12:31:29 PM CST, Philip Rose via Groups.Io <pvrose@...> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

I. Settings frequencies, I saw no means of adding an entry ..

 

Phil GM3ZZA

 

On 14 Feb 2020 17:41, Phil Davidson <philcdav1948@...> wrote:

> Same band but different freqs as set in 'options - band plan' .  Just refine a few kcs

>

> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020, 00:23 Russell Blair, <nc5opsk@...> wrote:

>> Is FT4 used in the same band as FT8, because if I change to FT4 from FT8

>> the frequency display turns red, why is this happing.

>>

>> Russekk NC5O

>>

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locked Re: Computer recommendations

Kai-KE4PT
 

I still use a six-year old Dell Mini Inspiron 11 laptop with Windows 8.1. Native screen is 1366 by 768 pixels, 4 GB RAM and Intel Celeron N2815 CPU at 2 GHz. Fine for all WSJT-X modes, and FLDIGI modes.
I use TARDIS for time synchronization (with Mike Black's TimeFudge and WWV while in the field), and Signalink sound card with Yaesu FT817 transceiver.
It doesn't take much of a computer to run WSJT-X, but you do have to manage what else is running in the background, and what else is stealing focus away from WSJT-X.
Kindest regards,
Kai, KE4PT

I bought a new HP computer only for HAM-programs. It's low end model (Intel i5-8600K, 3,6GHz, memory 16GHz), but I thought this would be enough. I was wrong!

I'm quite sure my computer can't handle the big load during the short interval (abt 2 seconds) when FT8-message are decoded. In the same time my DXlab applications also use they decoded messages for spot handling etc. During this interval the cpu usage goes up to 100%, and sometimes FT8-cycles are dropped/not detected. You can read in other postings about this problem.

My recommendation is to get a computer with the strongest cpu you can afford.

    


locked Re: Really WS QRP+

Kai-KE4PT
 

If I've kept the decimal points straight, a femto watt is 10^-12 mW, which is -120 dBm. There! Not so intimidating is it!
It's the sensitivity of a SSB signal.
10^-16 W is 10^-13 mW, or -130 dBm. Still 10s of dB way to go before we get to WSJT-X sensitivities!
Kindest regards,
Kai, KE4PT

On 2/17/2020 11:58, Phil W9IXX wrote:
Hi,

Interesting term, Femtowatt, it's mentioned in the current issue of IEEE Spectrum magazine, Feb 2020. The
article "Portrait of a Black Hole', talks about the strength of the signal from the black hole, M87, to the earth mounted
six 50mtr dishes. Signal is 10 to -16 watts.  That's not very much...  Hi..

73,
Phil W9IXX


From: "Mike Tarnowsky via Groups.Io" <miketar@...>
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 8:43:01 AM
Subject: [WSJTX] Really WS QRP+

Learned a new term today. Femtowatt, We have QRP=5w or so, milliwatts, microwatts, and now a weak signal 0.1 femtowatt. Maybe in a very far, far, away time we will be able to decode it.

Check it out on Google. I don't think that term will show up on the extra class exam, but you never know. (:>)

Mike T. WB2YJS 



    


locked Re: FT4 frequencies for 160 - 6m?

Chris Zukowski
 

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 6:54 PM Scott Millick <smillick@...> wrote:

no reset button found

At 09:02 PM 2/15/2020, you wrote:
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="------------D92FC1273FC466ED0C257763"
Content-Language: en-US

A RESET of the Frequency list will pick them all up.    Just RIGHT CLICK in the Frequency list and select RESET.   All the default frequencies will then be added.

Neil, KN3ILZ
On 2/15/2020 12:49 PM, Dick- K9OM via Groups.Io wrote:
If there are designated FT4 frequencies for 160 - 6 meters, I'd appreciate someone posting them here as I don't have them all.

Thanks & 73,

Dick- K9OM 



locked Re: Computer recommendations

Bill Lederer
 


They  have very adequate horsepower (given that some folks run WSJT on Raspberry Pi) and the cost is quite reasonable. Running WSJTX on a busy 80 meter band, it is running at just %13 CSP. I sourced my parts separately (memory, SSD disk) and the cost was maybe $400 all told.

They have a Windows version, if you must, but I run Linux.

If you want to go the Linux route, the old computer is perfectly adequate.


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 7:54 PM eam1212003 via Groups.Io <eam1212003=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It’s just about time to put my old Dell/Windows 7 computer to sleep...looking for inexpensive suggestions of a new computer/laptop that can comfortably handle HRD and WSJT...what say you folks? Yes, less expensive but fast and adequate are my two primary requirements...this will be dedicated just to radio related use with my Icom 7610...Tnx in advance, 

Eli, N6PF 


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