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locked Re: AGC Question

John Carobine
 

Thanks Andy.  Appreciate your message and the link to the guide.  

73

WB8RFB

On Saturday, January 4, 2020, 09:54:48 PM CST, Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...> wrote:


If you are talking about AGC with modes like FT8, FT4 , the usual recommendation is to experiment with various settings on the rig  and see how they impact varying  receive conditions.  K1JT's 2018 guide (https://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/FT8_Operating_Tips.pdf)   says...

"  Use the rig’s AGC or take care to adjust the RF gain control and attenuator whenever there are strong signals on the waterfall.  Overload in the receiver and/or sound card can mess with any digital signal processing in your rig and on the soundcard including, WSJT-X’s decoding and waterfall display.  AGC is the easy option, preferably on a fast setting.  Consider using your rig’s filters too...  "
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locked Re: weird random/intermittent/recurring rig control failure

andypdanp@...
 

Just finished operating for about the last hour and the errror did not pop up, thought it did earlier tonight. Recent changes tonight are: 1) changed the data bit and stop bit settings from 8 and 1 respectively to "default". 2) moved the Rigblaster around a bit on the desk. Insured all cables were snug while I was at it. 3) Updated my JT Alert from 2.15.5 to latest, 2.15.6. 

'Nite all--thanks again!

Andy K3NP


locked Re: AGC Question

Andrew OBrien
 

If you are talking about AGC with modes like FT8, FT4 , the usual recommendation is to experiment with various settings on the rig  and see how they impact varying  receive conditions.  K1JT's 2018 guide (https://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/FT8_Operating_Tips.pdf)   says...

"  Use the rig’s AGC or take care to adjust the RF gain control and attenuator whenever there are strong signals on the waterfall.  Overload in the receiver and/or sound card can mess with any digital signal processing in your rig and on the soundcard including, WSJT-X’s decoding and waterfall display.  AGC is the easy option, preferably on a fast setting.  Consider using your rig’s filters too...  "
Andy K3UK
 


locked Re: logging QSO

AB8WD-Willie
 

That is what I was using just easier for me to read and sort thanks for the quick response.


locked Re: logging QSO

ve3ki
 

The one you are least likely to misconstrue or enter incorrectly. Personally I always use yyyymmdd (or yyyy-mm-dd) - it is unambiguous, and not only does familiarity with it make reading Cabrillo and ADIF files easier (since they both use this order), but also when interpreted as straight text instead of as a date (e.g. in a file name), it still sorts correctly. But if this one seems too unfamiliar, you might be better off with one you are more comfortable with - preferably one that won't lead to ambiguities like the 04/01/2020 one you started with.

73,
Rich VE3KI


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what is the best format or default format to use?


locked Re: Directional CQ

Herb Blue - WB8ASI
 

I like using the Decodes Window available in Settings>View.  You can see the Directional CQ, and much much more if you like.  You can customize.  73, Herb WB8ASI

On January 4, 2020 at 3:45 PM Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...> wrote:

I just monitored for 15 minutes. The CQ data is NOT shown UNTIL I click in the band activity window. It then shows the message in the right had window and starts to transmit my call. If it was a CQ DX it is too late and my only choice is to stop the transmitting. If I am missing some way to fix this I am totally without understanding how. I can find nothing about it in documentation.

 

Example of band activity window with or without CQ only on a station that is sending a CQ

 

200345  -6   0.1  1607  ~  WB9RFI  EN31  U.S.A

 

So how am I to know if he is calling CQ DX UNTIL I double click and it appears in the right hand window, Generates standard messages and instantly starts to call him?

 

 

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locked AGC Question

John Carobine
 

I have an FTdx-3000.  What is the recommended AGC setting?

Thanks.  

WB8RFB


locked Re: Q DX or just CQ.RE: [FT8-Digital-Mode] Option on CQ only to indicate it is a directed CQ such as CQ DX

Jim Cooper
 

On 4 Jan 2020 at 20:02, Gilbert Baron wrote:

I credit Jim Cooper here for saying
hat Version do you have. I had the
newest as shown on the start but
also had junk hanging around form an
older version . I think 1.1.9 or
something like that. The correct
version was starting but it seems
things left around form the old one
was causing the error.
aha ... GLAD you found the problem ...

there WERE big changes from v 1... to v 2...


locked Re: Q DX or just CQ.RE: [FT8-Digital-Mode] Option on CQ only to indicate it is a directed CQ such as CQ DX

Gilbert Baron
 

I found the problem. I had an old version AND the latest installed. I did not realize that install of a new version does not remove the old one as almost all other Windows programs do. I simply went to Control Panel and removed the old version and now I get the screen with the complete message. I guess that is life in this lane. Asi es la vida para todos. 😊

 

I credit Jim Cooper here for saying What Version do you have. I had the newest as shown on the start but also had junk hanging around form an older version . I think 1.1.9 or something like that. The correct version was starting but it seems things left around form the old one was causing the error.

 

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From: WSJTX@groups.io <WSJTX@groups.io> On Behalf Of Gilbert Baron via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 16:49
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Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Q DX or just CQ.RE: [FT8-Digital-Mode] Option on CQ only to indicate it is a directed CQ such as CQ DX

 

 

 

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From: Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 16:11
To: jim.w2jc@...
Subject: RE: Q DX or just CQ.RE: [FT8-Digital-Mode] Option on CQ only to indicate it is a directed CQ such as CQ DX

 

2.1.1 and my screen clip shows no such thing.

 

Ver 2.1.2

 

 

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From: Jim Cooper <jim.w2jc@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 15:52
To: w0mn00@...
Subject: Re: Q DX or just CQ.RE: [FT8-Digital-Mode] Option on CQ only to indicate it is a directed CQ such as CQ DX

 

On 4 Jan 2020 at 13:16, w0mn00@... wrote:

 

> I have not the least interest I

> using JTALERT. I consider SC Far

> superior for the most part and do not

> wish to use different spotters for

> different modes of operation.

 

I guess everyone has their prejudices...

suit yourself, but then why ask others

to duplicate what you refuse to use?

>

> Actually the decode does NOT show

> the whole message. You get CALL and

> GRID and COUNTRY but you do not see

> the directional information such as

> CQ DX UNTIL you double click to set

> up the standard TX messages and it

> is then too late as it immediately

> transmits a call to the station that

> called CQ no matter if it is CQ  DX

> or any other CQ.

 

graphic

 

I don't know what version of WSJT-X you

are using, but mine clearly shows all directional

and special calls in the decode ... today happens

to be the Rtty roundUp so a lot of them have

that, but DX or EU or MT or any other indicator

for directional calls shows right there ... how

can you miss it if you are double-clicking on it?

 

graphic

 

doesn't your display show those?

 

graphic

 

> To respect the caller I then have to

> stop transmit which has now wasted

> both my time and his.

 

not his, unless you let your call go longer

than about 6 seconds.

 

> I consider that missing needed

> function. If I am missing how to

> make it show that information I did

> not find it in the online

> documentation.

 

it's hard to understand why it would not

show, since it is part of the sent message.

 

  


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locked Re: weird random/intermittent/recurring rig control failure

andypdanp@...
 

Hi again Bill--

I tried setting rig control to CAT, and got the same behavior as I mentioned before; the rig keys, i hear a tone but nothing actually goes out over the air. I have a speaker connected to my Rig Blaster's "audio out" monitoring jack, so that's where I can hear the tone, and I see the TX red LED on the radio illuminate and hear the relays click on, but no actual modulation occurs over the air. This happens whether I set front or rear for the audio source. I am using a Kenwood TS-480 SAT and a Rigblaster Advantage, so there is a modular cable going from the RB to the radio's mic jack. There is also a specialty serial 9-pin cable I got from West Mountain Radio that connects between the serial port on the Rigblaster and the serial port on the radio. I got this after learning the hard way that a standard serial cable doesn't work. If I recall right, one of the wires has to be flipped, sort of like the old null modem cables/serial adapters of bygone days.

RTS is the only setup that works it seems. Choosing DTR does not key the radio at all. Current settings of my radio screen are attached.  These work....until they don't ;) 

Also, if I set flow control to Hardware, I immediately get an error that will not resolve until I change that setting back. It says "Hamlib error: IO error while testing getting current VFO. Also attached.

Thanks again for helping me!

73,

Andy K3NP


locked Re: weird random/intermittent/recurring rig control failure

andypdanp@...
 

Hi Bill--

Sure thing. It's attached. Thank you!

73,
Andy K3NP


locked Re: weird random/intermittent/recurring rig control failure

Bill Somerville
 

On 04/01/2020 21:11, andypdanp@... wrote:

Rig: Kenwood TS-480   Poll interval=2s

CAT control: Serial Port 5    (Note that my serial ports for rig control, PTT, and CW keying are virtually created/split by the Rigblaster’s software, which actually uses COM3)

9600 baud (which is also what is set on the radio)

8 data bits, 1 stop bit (per TS-480 manual)

Handshake=none

Force Control lines: DTR (blank) RTS=high

PTT method=RTS    Port=COM6

Mode=USB

Split=Fake it

Andy,

any chance of sharing with us the actual error message from WSJT-X? For you convenience you can copy the full error message text, including the important details panel, to the Windows clipboard by hitting Ctrl+C while the error message window has keyboard focus.

You could use "Settings->Radio->PTT Method" as CAT if you correctly set the Tx audio source setting according to how the audio is fed to your rig by your interface. Set it to Front if it goes to the mic socket, set it to rear if it goes to the ANI pin of the rear REMOTE socket. I believe the RigBlaster interfaces feed the audio to the mic socket.

You should set "Settings->Radio->Handshake" to "Hardware" and leave both Force Control Lines options blank.

73
Bill
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locked Re: Q DX or just CQ.RE: [FT8-Digital-Mode] Option on CQ only to indicate it is a directed CQ such as CQ DX

Gilbert Baron
 

 

 

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From: Gilbert Baron <w0mn00@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 16:11
To: jim.w2jc@...
Subject: RE: Q DX or just CQ.RE: [FT8-Digital-Mode] Option on CQ only to indicate it is a directed CQ such as CQ DX

 

2.1.1 and my screen clip shows no such thing.

 

Ver 2.1.2

 

 

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From: Jim Cooper <jim.w2jc@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 15:52
To: w0mn00@...
Subject: Re: Q DX or just CQ.RE: [FT8-Digital-Mode] Option on CQ only to indicate it is a directed CQ such as CQ DX

 

On 4 Jan 2020 at 13:16, w0mn00@... wrote:

 

> I have not the least interest I

> using JTALERT. I consider SC Far

> superior for the most part and do not

> wish to use different spotters for

> different modes of operation.

 

I guess everyone has their prejudices...

suit yourself, but then why ask others

to duplicate what you refuse to use?

>

> Actually the decode does NOT show

> the whole message. You get CALL and

> GRID and COUNTRY but you do not see

> the directional information such as

> CQ DX UNTIL you double click to set

> up the standard TX messages and it

> is then too late as it immediately

> transmits a call to the station that

> called CQ no matter if it is CQ  DX

> or any other CQ.

 

graphic

 

I don't know what version of WSJT-X you

are using, but mine clearly shows all directional

and special calls in the decode ... today happens

to be the Rtty roundUp so a lot of them have

that, but DX or EU or MT or any other indicator

for directional calls shows right there ... how

can you miss it if you are double-clicking on it?

 

graphic

 

doesn't your display show those?

 

graphic

 

> To respect the caller I then have to

> stop transmit which has now wasted

> both my time and his.

 

not his, unless you let your call go longer

than about 6 seconds.

 

> I consider that missing needed

> function. If I am missing how to

> make it show that information I did

> not find it in the online

> documentation.

 

it's hard to understand why it would not

show, since it is part of the sent message.

 

  


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locked weird random/intermittent/recurring rig control failure

andypdanp@...
 

Hello all—

 

 

I’ve been using WSJT-X with JTAlert and my Kenwood TS-480 and WMR Rigblaster Advantage for several years now without issues. But several months ago my desktop PC’s Windows 10 crashed and I had to reinstall Windows 10, and all my programs as well. When I initially reinstalled WSJT-X and JT Alert, I was able to find files with my previous settings in the AppData folder in my saved Windows.old directory (auto-saved files from the previous, crashed installation) on my hard drive, so I didn’t have to manually set all the settings again.

 

However, ever since then, randomly I’ll randomly get a popup that there is a rig control error, with buttons displayed to retry, configure, etc. I click “retry” and it restores to working condition right away. But the problem will recur, typically within 5-10 minutes. It happens more often when I’m just monitoring the radio than when I’m transmitting. It also frequently happens when I first start WSJT-X.

 

Yesterday, I completely uninstalled both WSJT-X and JTAlert, and verified no traces of anything left in folders like AppData, Program Files (x86), etc. Then I rebooted my PC and reinstalled both programs from scratch, and manually re-entered all my settings. Unfortunately, the problem still occurs, though perhaps not as often.

 

Someone on a Facebook group suggested it might be an RF problem; so I re-routed my serial cable that connects the Rigblaster to the radio so that it was no longer wrapped/bundled with other cables. I also discovered that the serial plug to the radio had not been screwed down, so I did that. And I was hopeful that maybe this  was all just due to a loose connection. Unfortunately, it still occurred a couple times tonight, although noticeably less—perhaps twice in 45 minutes, during which I operated and worked a bunch of stations without a problem.  I did various power output levels from 30 to 200 watts; they seemed to work fine for the most part; there was no correlation between using high power and the problem suddenly occurring. Again, this usually happens when I’m not transmitting at all.

 

I also tried changing the settings on the “Radio” tab:

Handshake: I switched between default, none, XON/XOFF,  hardware, etc;

Forcing RTS line low, or high. None of that seems to make a difference.

 

Someone on FB asked me why I have the rig control set for RTS and not CAT; when I select CAT, the rig keys up and I hear a tone, but no audio goes out over the air, and the radio’s wattmeter reads zero watts out. And if I choose DTR, nothing happens at all when I try to tx. I also changed the polling interval from 1 to 2 seconds. I don’t typically use VOX, but I just tried it and it works, albeit with a slight delay to start tx, so I might set it for VOX a bit and see if that changes anything.

 

I do note that when I first start WSJT-X, the problem almost always occurs. I do have JT Alert set to autorun/auto start WSJT-X, so I actually start JTAlert first and it in turn starts WSJT-X and also opens my log, website for PSK Reporter etc.

 

Current radio control settings are:

 

Rig: Kenwood TS-480   Poll interval=2s

CAT control: Serial Port 5    (Note that my serial ports for rig control, PTT, and CW keying are virtually created/split by the Rigblaster’s software, which actually uses COM3)

9600 baud (which is also what is set on the radio)

8 data bits, 1 stop bit (per TS-480 manual)

Handshake=none

Force Control lines: DTR (blank) RTS=high

PTT method=RTS    Port=COM6

Mode=USB

Split=Fake it

 

Latest troubleshooting steps:

-I looked at my ports in Device manager: for the virtual ports created by the Rigblaster software, under the General tab it says “working properly” but under the events  tab it says “Device FABULATECH\VSPC\DEVICE4294967294 requires further installation.”. This is apparently the virtual port driver.

-I unistalled Rigblaster, downloaded latest drivers form WMR, reinstalled RB. Above issue with the ports still persists.

-changed auto start so JTAlert no longer auto starts WSJT-X; I open WSJT-X manually first, then I open JT Alert. *NOTE: now the rig control error happens after opening JTAlert, not WSJT-X.

_I also reinstalled JT Alert from scratch again; under the TCP settings (for text messages etc.) I left the defaults. Previously I had changed them to match what was displayed prior to my computer crash. It was only 1 port of 3 that was 1 number different, and it doesn’t  seem to affect my rig control problem.

 

-I tried leaving just WSJT-X running for a while with no JT Alert; unfortunately, after about 10-15 minutes, the problem happened again.

 

Thanks in advance for any ideas you can provide on how to resolve this problem!  (Maybe a bad USB cable to the Rig Blaster and/or bad CAT control cable between Rigblaster and rig? Or maybe I need to start WSJT-X manually and then start JTAlert afterwards?)

 

73,

 

Andy K3NP

 

 


locked Re: logging QSO

AB8WD-Willie
 

what is the best format or default format to use?


locked Re: logging QSO

Jim Cooper
 

On 4 Jan 2020 at 11:05, willicott@... wrote:

After making contact the log qso
comes up with 04/01/2020 and when I
change the date it still logs that
date. Please help!!
I use that format on my OS and my logs
from WSJT-X are read correctly in QRZ.com
and LotW ... I suggest you not worry about it.


locked Re: logging QSO

willicott@...
 

I tried that but it didn't work '
Thank You


locked Directional CQ

Gilbert Baron
 

I just monitored for 15 minutes. The CQ data is NOT shown UNTIL I click in the band activity window. It then shows the message in the right had window and starts to transmit my call. If it was a CQ DX it is too late and my only choice is to stop the transmitting. If I am missing some way to fix this I am totally without understanding how. I can find nothing about it in documentation.

 

Example of band activity window with or without CQ only on a station that is sending a CQ

 

200345  -6   0.1  1607  ~  WB9RFI  EN31  U.S.A

 

So how am I to know if he is calling CQ DX UNTIL I double click and it appears in the right hand window, Generates standard messages and instantly starts to call him?

 

 

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locked Re: logging QSO

Joe Roper
 

I believe it is the time/date format in your OS. If you're running W10, click on Start in lower left corner, Settings (little gear icon), Time and Language, Date time & regional formatting in upper right corner. If the format down doesn't match the mm/dd/yyyy that I mentioned earlier, click on Change data formats and adjust it there. Hope this helps.

Joe
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locked Reminder to choose "assisted" option when submitting logs for ARRL RTTY RU #ContestMode

Doug Gerard
 

Just a reminder that all log submissions that use WSJT-X for today's
RTTY RU need to categorized as using spotting assistance.  WSJT-X
decodes multiple signals at once and the ARRL says this is classified as
using spotting assistance.

Doug
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