On Nov 25, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Richard Hattaway via groups.io <rhattaway@...> wrote:

Edd,

As a guy that runs his entire shack on a Pi 4B, I find the thread fascinating.

I've built the WSJT-X from source, just to see if I could do it.  I am not a software engineer, but I have found that google is my friend also, and almost all Raspberry Pi questions can be answered there, if I can ask it correctly HI HI.  Your speedbumps with the new OS interest me, as I will be doing that soon myself.
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73
Dick

W4PID@...

On Nov 25, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Gary trock <gtrockmd@...> wrote:

 Thanks. Very helpful. I’ve been thinking about starting with an Arduino kit. I’m only up and running after much help from W9MJB

On Nov 25, 2021, at 12:50 PM, jbozell via groups.io <jbozell@...> wrote:



Hi Gary,

 

Don’t feel bad...I understand where you’re coming from. I in no way am intending anything derogatory to the Raspberry Pi users here (and there’s a lot of them), but those that want to install the Linux version of WSJT-X will likely have a strong parallel interest in digging into the code and during installation, using the specialized language of Linux for installation and communication with their computers. G4WJS and W9MDB are a couple of the true experts in that area and regularly answer the really arcane questions about its operation. I know enough Linux to be dangerous, and that’s why I like my Mac and use the Mac version of WSJT-X. It installed easily, and has operated pretty flawlessly with my IC-7610. Yes, I’m doing it in kind of a “black box” mode, but have a rough idea of how it works by reading the QST and QEX papers by K1JT. IMHO, the papers do a good job describing what WSJT-X does, although I’d prefer more on how it does it.

 

In any case, to your original question about reading opportunities, I’ve seen some good reviews on the Dr. Duino electronics kit as advertised in QST (https://www.drduino.com/blogs/news/tagged/ham-radio). It combines hands on project building with the coding that can be used for computer control. It might be one place to start as it’s pretty reasonably priced.

 

Just a few suggestions...hope this helps.

 

Joe/WB0CDY

 

On Nov 25, 2021, at 12:50 PM, jbozell via groups.io <jbozell@...> wrote:



Hi Gary,

 

Don’t feel bad...I understand where you’re coming from. I in no way am intending anything derogatory to the Raspberry Pi users here (and there’s a lot of them), but those that want to install the Linux version of WSJT-X will likely have a strong parallel interest in digging into the code and during installation, using the specialized language of Linux for installation and communication with their computers. G4WJS and W9MDB are a couple of the true experts in that area and regularly answer the really arcane questions about its operation. I know enough Linux to be dangerous, and that’s why I like my Mac and use the Mac version of WSJT-X. It installed easily, and has operated pretty flawlessly with my IC-7610. Yes, I’m doing it in kind of a “black box” mode, but have a rough idea of how it works by reading the QST and QEX papers by K1JT. IMHO, the papers do a good job describing what WSJT-X does, although I’d prefer more on how it does it.

 

In any case, to your original question about reading opportunities, I’ve seen some good reviews on the Dr. Duino electronics kit as advertised in QST (https://www.drduino.com/blogs/news/tagged/ham-radio). It combines hands on project building with the coding that can be used for computer control. It might be one place to start as it’s pretty reasonably priced.

 

Just a few suggestions...hope this helps.

 

Joe/WB0CDY

 

On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Edward Seeliger <eseeliger@...> wrote:



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Good morning again Bill.
Yes, using apt to install cmake worked.
I moved the package from the RPI 4 to the RPI Zero using a memory stick (had not occurred to me that they can be read by the RPI OS when I previously used it on Windows machines).
wsjtx is now installed on the RPI Zero W2 and opens without errors - it even has the wsjtx icon installed.

Gary, I am not a software professional but a mere ham who likes to tinker. To learn more just use your search engine of choice - you can eventually find answers to most of your questions about Linux, Raspian OS, Debian, Windows operating systems as you need. And sometimes there is someone like Bill who can provide the snippet of guidance to push you forward.

I apologize to those who found this thread not of interest in this forum, but maybe someone else trying to build wsjtx on the RPI Zero want use his time as I have.

Happy Thanksgiving to those in the US.
Bill, again, thanks for your help and all you and the team have done in perfecting wsjtx for us weak signal hams!

Edd - KD5M

On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:



Gary,

Edd is trying to install WSJT-X on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W board. He can't use the Debian package we provide because he has installed a later version of Raspberry Pi OS on his board which means he needs to to compile WSJT-X from sources. He can't do that on the target board because it has insufficient RAM to complete the build. He is able to build on another Raspberry Pi with more resources and then should be able to build a Debian package that he can transfer to the target board and install.

If any of that is relevant to you then let us know what issues you have?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/11/2021 16:25, Gary trock wrote:

Pardon my ignorance. These discussions are so far above me. Are many of you software professionals or can you point out to me reading to help me better understand?

Gary N8GT

On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:



On 25/11/2021 16:10, Edward Seeliger wrote:

Good morning Bill
sudo -E cmake .... didn't work. I also tried to install cmake on a fresh OS Bullseye image using the sh script as described on the cmake site - that didn't seem to work either.
On my RPI 4B 4GB I started with a clean RPI OS Bullseye again, installed all the prerequisites from the INSTALL recipe using APT package manager including cmake and built the install and package versions following the recipe. It all works as it should.
Thanks for your help.
Yes, my original goal was to build and install on the RPI Zero W2. Now I must learn how to move the wsjtx package version from one RPI to another.
There is always something else to learn.
Have a nice weekend.
Edd - KD5M

Edd,

have you tried installing the default cmake package from the Raspberry Pi OS repository?

sudo apt install cmake

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Pardon my ignorance. These discussions are so far above me. Are many of you software professionals or can you point out to me reading to help me better understand?

Gary N8GT

On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:



On 25/11/2021 16:10, Edward Seeliger wrote:

Good morning Bill
sudo -E cmake .... didn't work. I also tried to install cmake on a fresh OS Bullseye image using the sh script as described on the cmake site - that didn't seem to work either.
On my RPI 4B 4GB I started with a clean RPI OS Bullseye again, installed all the prerequisites from the INSTALL recipe using APT package manager including cmake and built the install and package versions following the recipe. It all works as it should.
Thanks for your help.
Yes, my original goal was to build and install on the RPI Zero W2. Now I must learn how to move the wsjtx package version from one RPI to another.
There is always something else to learn.
Have a nice weekend.
Edd - KD5M

Edd,

have you tried installing the default cmake package from the Raspberry Pi OS repository?

sudo apt install cmake

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:



On 25/11/2021 16:10, Edward Seeliger wrote:

Good morning Bill
sudo -E cmake .... didn't work. I also tried to install cmake on a fresh OS Bullseye image using the sh script as described on the cmake site - that didn't seem to work either.
On my RPI 4B 4GB I started with a clean RPI OS Bullseye again, installed all the prerequisites from the INSTALL recipe using APT package manager including cmake and built the install and package versions following the recipe. It all works as it should.
Thanks for your help.
Yes, my original goal was to build and install on the RPI Zero W2. Now I must learn how to move the wsjtx package version from one RPI to another.
There is always something else to learn.
Have a nice weekend.
Edd - KD5M

Edd,

have you tried installing the default cmake package from the Raspberry Pi OS repository?

sudo apt install cmake

73
Bill
G4WJS.