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locked Re: TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

Charlie Morrison
 

Hi Mike

 

I would need either. TCI 1.5 is current with ExpertSDR V2, 1.6 is required for V3

 

73, Charlie GI4FUE

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Black via groups.io
Sent: 25 November 2021 15:50
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

 

I need volunteers who have the need for TCI 1.5 and one for TCI 1.6

Does anybody need TCI 1.4?

 

I don't yet what the difference is but apparently JTDX's implementation only works on 1.5.

 

I'm going to add it to hamlib so you'll be able to download the new DLL to get it.

 

Mike W9MDB

 

 

 

 

On Thursday, November 25, 2021, 09:43:04 AM CST, Randy Diddel <k5rhd.73@...> wrote:

 

 

Add me to the list that would like to see TCI added at least for CAT-type control. I am good with using VAC for now although it would be nice to have it all rolled together.
--
Randy Diddel
K5RHD
DM79ku
Arvada, CO



locked Re: TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

Michael Black
 

Hi Ronald,

Are you on Windows?

I'm starting to make the TCI interface and need a tester.

Mike W9MDB




On Wednesday, November 24, 2021, 02:19:57 PM CST, PH7R - Ronald <rpmeier.ned@...> wrote:


Same +1



locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Gary trock
 

I am interested in ALL these discussions on this group. I’m hoping to better understand most of it in the future.
Gary


On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Edward Seeliger <eseeliger@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Good morning again Bill.
Yes, using apt to install cmake worked.
I moved the package from the RPI 4 to the RPI Zero using a memory stick (had not occurred to me that they can be read by the RPI OS when I previously used it on Windows machines).
wsjtx is now installed on the RPI Zero W2 and opens without errors - it even has the wsjtx icon installed.

Gary, I am not a software professional but a mere ham who likes to tinker. To learn more just use your search engine of choice - you can eventually find answers to most of your questions about Linux, Raspian OS, Debian, Windows operating systems as you need. And sometimes there is someone like Bill who can provide the snippet of guidance to push you forward.

I apologize to those who found this thread not of interest in this forum, but maybe someone else trying to build wsjtx on the RPI Zero want use his time as I have.

Happy Thanksgiving to those in the US.
Bill, again, thanks for your help and all you and the team have done in perfecting wsjtx for us weak signal hams!

Edd - KD5M


locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Edward Seeliger
 
Edited

Good morning again Bill.
Yes, using apt to install cmake worked.
I moved the package from the RPI 4 to the RPI Zero using a memory stick (had not occurred to me that they can be read by the RPI OS when I previously used it on Windows machines).
wsjtx is now installed on the RPI Zero W2 and opens without errors - it even has the wsjtx icon installed.

Gary, I am not a software professional but a mere ham who likes to tinker. To learn more just use your search engine of choice - you can eventually find answers to most of your questions about Linux, Raspian OS, Debian, Windows operating systems as you need. And sometimes there is someone like Bill who can provide the snippet of guidance to push you forward.

I apologize to those who found this thread not of interest in this forum, but maybe someone else trying to build wsjtx on the RPI Zero want use his time as I have.

Happy Thanksgiving to those in the US.
Bill, again, thanks for your help and all you and the team have done in perfecting wsjtx for us weak signal hams!

Edd - KD5M
locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Gary trock
 

No current issues but I don’t understand most of this. 


On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:


Gary,

Edd is trying to install WSJT-X on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W board. He can't use the Debian package we provide because he has installed a later version of Raspberry Pi OS on his board which means he needs to to compile WSJT-X from sources. He can't do that on the target board because it has insufficient RAM to complete the build. He is able to build on another Raspberry Pi with more resources and then should be able to build a Debian package that he can transfer to the target board and install.

If any of that is relevant to you then let us know what issues you have?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/11/2021 16:25, Gary trock wrote:
Pardon my ignorance. These discussions are so far above me. Are many of you software professionals or can you point out to me reading to help me better understand?
Gary N8GT


On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:


On 25/11/2021 16:10, Edward Seeliger wrote:
Good morning Bill
sudo -E cmake .... didn't work. I also tried to install cmake on a fresh OS Bullseye image using the sh script as described on the cmake site - that didn't seem to work either.
On my RPI 4B 4GB I started with a clean RPI OS Bullseye again, installed all the prerequisites from the INSTALL recipe using APT package manager including cmake and built the install and package versions following the recipe. It all works as it should.
Thanks for your help.
Yes, my original goal was to build and install on the RPI Zero W2. Now I must learn how to move the wsjtx package version from one RPI to another.
There is always something else to learn.
Have a nice weekend.
Edd - KD5M

Edd,

have you tried installing the default cmake package from the Raspberry Pi OS repository?

sudo apt install cmake

73
Bill
G4WJS.
locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Bill Somerville
 

Gary,

Edd is trying to install WSJT-X on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W board. He can't use the Debian package we provide because he has installed a later version of Raspberry Pi OS on his board which means he needs to to compile WSJT-X from sources. He can't do that on the target board because it has insufficient RAM to complete the build. He is able to build on another Raspberry Pi with more resources and then should be able to build a Debian package that he can transfer to the target board and install.

If any of that is relevant to you then let us know what issues you have?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 25/11/2021 16:25, Gary trock wrote:
Pardon my ignorance. These discussions are so far above me. Are many of you software professionals or can you point out to me reading to help me better understand?
Gary N8GT


On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:


On 25/11/2021 16:10, Edward Seeliger wrote:
Good morning Bill
sudo -E cmake .... didn't work. I also tried to install cmake on a fresh OS Bullseye image using the sh script as described on the cmake site - that didn't seem to work either.
On my RPI 4B 4GB I started with a clean RPI OS Bullseye again, installed all the prerequisites from the INSTALL recipe using APT package manager including cmake and built the install and package versions following the recipe. It all works as it should.
Thanks for your help.
Yes, my original goal was to build and install on the RPI Zero W2. Now I must learn how to move the wsjtx package version from one RPI to another.
There is always something else to learn.
Have a nice weekend.
Edd - KD5M

Edd,

have you tried installing the default cmake package from the Raspberry Pi OS repository?

sudo apt install cmake

73
Bill
G4WJS.
locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Gary trock
 

Pardon my ignorance. These discussions are so far above me. Are many of you software professionals or can you point out to me reading to help me better understand?
Gary N8GT


On Nov 25, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:


On 25/11/2021 16:10, Edward Seeliger wrote:
Good morning Bill
sudo -E cmake .... didn't work. I also tried to install cmake on a fresh OS Bullseye image using the sh script as described on the cmake site - that didn't seem to work either.
On my RPI 4B 4GB I started with a clean RPI OS Bullseye again, installed all the prerequisites from the INSTALL recipe using APT package manager including cmake and built the install and package versions following the recipe. It all works as it should.
Thanks for your help.
Yes, my original goal was to build and install on the RPI Zero W2. Now I must learn how to move the wsjtx package version from one RPI to another.
There is always something else to learn.
Have a nice weekend.
Edd - KD5M

Edd,

have you tried installing the default cmake package from the Raspberry Pi OS repository?

sudo apt install cmake

73
Bill
G4WJS.
locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Bill Somerville
 

On 25/11/2021 16:10, Edward Seeliger wrote:
Good morning Bill
sudo -E cmake .... didn't work. I also tried to install cmake on a fresh OS Bullseye image using the sh script as described on the cmake site - that didn't seem to work either.
On my RPI 4B 4GB I started with a clean RPI OS Bullseye again, installed all the prerequisites from the INSTALL recipe using APT package manager including cmake and built the install and package versions following the recipe. It all works as it should.
Thanks for your help.
Yes, my original goal was to build and install on the RPI Zero W2. Now I must learn how to move the wsjtx package version from one RPI to another.
There is always something else to learn.
Have a nice weekend.
Edd - KD5M

Edd,

have you tried installing the default cmake package from the Raspberry Pi OS repository?

sudo apt install cmake

73
Bill
G4WJS.
locked Re: TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

Bill Somerville
 

On 25/11/2021 15:42, Randy Diddel wrote:
Add me to the list that would like to see TCI added at least for CAT-type control. I am good with using VAC for now although it would be nice to have it all rolled together.
--
Randy Diddel
K5RHD
DM79ku
Arvada, CO
Hi Andy,

can you detail what issues exist with using the ExpertSDR TS-480 emulation for CAT control please?

73
Bill
G4WJS.
locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Edward Seeliger
 

Good morning Bill
sudo -E cmake .... didn't work. I also tried to install cmake on a fresh OS Bullseye image using the sh script as described on the cmake site - that didn't seem to work either.
On my RPI 4B 4GB I started with a clean RPI OS Bullseye again, installed all the prerequisites from the INSTALL recipe using APT package manager including cmake and built the install and package versions following the recipe. It all works as it should.
Thanks for your help.
Yes, my original goal was to build and install on the RPI Zero W2. Now I must learn how to move the wsjtx package version from one RPI to another.
There is always something else to learn.
Have a nice weekend.
Edd - KD5M
locked Re: TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

Michael Black
 

I need volunteers who have the need for TCI 1.5 and one for TCI 1.6
Does anybody need TCI 1.4?

I don't yet what the difference is but apparently JTDX's implementation only works on 1.5.

I'm going to add it to hamlib so you'll be able to download the new DLL to get it.

Mike W9MDB




On Thursday, November 25, 2021, 09:43:04 AM CST, Randy Diddel <k5rhd.73@...> wrote:


Add me to the list that would like to see TCI added at least for CAT-type control. I am good with using VAC for now although it would be nice to have it all rolled together.
--
Randy Diddel
K5RHD
DM79ku
Arvada, CO



locked Re: TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

Randy Diddel
 

Add me to the list that would like to see TCI added at least for CAT-type control. I am good with using VAC for now although it would be nice to have it all rolled together.
--
Randy Diddel
K5RHD
DM79ku
Arvada, CO
locked Re: #Kenwood #Cat_RigControl #IssueReport #Kenwood #Cat_RigControl #IssueReport

mark.salvador@...
 

Hi Chris, can I ask for your configuration and settings? what OS are you using? What cable is it an FTDI?

I tried rolling back to ver 2.2 but still doesnt work on my laptop. Om using the xggcomms cable. seems that the laptop to rog has connectivity its just that im getting protocol errors.

thanks in advance for your insights and reply. 
locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Bill Somerville
 

On 25/11/2021 04:06, Edward Seeliger wrote:
Good evening Bill.
I have successfully used the install recipe contained in the source tarball to build WSJTX 2.5.2 on an RPI 4B (4GB SDRAM) on RPI OS Bullseye.
But I believe the last line in the recipe is incorrect -- "sudo cmake --build . --target install" gives an error "sudo: cmake: command not found". I think the correct script should be "sudo make install" - that command runs and installs wsjtx 2.5.2 into /usr/local/bin and will run from that location, albeit without a desktop icon. It must be run with the RUN command or migrate to the folder and click on it.

The tarball recipe will not run beyond building hamlib on my RPI Zero W2 (500MB SDRAM) on RPI OS Bullseye.

Please verify my change for the last line in the recipe is correct.

Thanks for your help. As always, I learned some more about Linux and Raspian!

Edd - KD5M

Hi Edd,

because you have not installed the cmake Debian package, root does not have cmake on its PATH. Try:

sudo -E cmake --build . --target install

although that may also fail depending on the security options set for sudo. The issue is not the command but the way you have installed CMake. Probably easier to install the distribution cmake package.

I thought you wanted to run on your Pi Zero, to do that try making a Debian package that you can then move to your target machine to install with dpkg.

cmake --build . --target package

You may need to install more packages for the package target to complete.

73
Bill
G4WJS.
locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Edward Seeliger
 

Good evening Bill.
I have successfully used the install recipe contained in the source tarball to build WSJTX 2.5.2 on an RPI 4B (4GB SDRAM) on RPI OS Bullseye.
But I believe the last line in the recipe is incorrect -- "sudo cmake --build . --target install" gives an error "sudo: cmake: command not found". I think the correct script should be "sudo make install" - that command runs and installs wsjtx 2.5.2 into /usr/local/bin and will run from that location, albeit without a desktop icon. It must be run with the RUN command or migrate to the folder and click on it.

The tarball recipe will not run beyond building hamlib on my RPI Zero W2 (500MB SDRAM) on RPI OS Bullseye.

Please verify my change for the last line in the recipe is correct.

Thanks for your help. As always, I learned some more about Linux and Raspian!

Edd - KD5M
locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Edward Seeliger
 

Good afternoon Loyd, Kari, and Bill - thanks to all for your suggestions.
I have WSJTX 2.5.2 installed and working on multiple OS Buster / RPI 3 and RPI4s. I will try the build procedure on an RPI4 with Bullseye soon.
There were no other applications running except nano for me to read the build instructions from the INSTALL file.
But I wanted to add it to a new RPI Zero W2 I have recently received (as much as anythng to try to run the build from source process).
Yes Bill, the RPI Zero 2 W has only 512 MB of SDRAM - if that is too little to allow the build process to run then so be it - it was worth a try (and a learning exercise for me).
Have a great Thanksgiving tomorrow (you can enjoy it with us if you like Kari and Bill!).
Edd - KD5M
locked Re: TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

Charlie Morrison
 

Hi all

 

Bill, TCI 1.5 spec as used in JTDX 2.2.156, and the most recent version of MSHV also controls the audio stream. TCI 1.6 has been developed specifically for ExpertSDR V3 which is currently in alpha state. Neither of the 2 aforementioned programs work with TCI 1.6 yet.

 

@Roger ExpertSDR will let you go down to steps of 0.1 Hz

 

73, Charlie GI4FUE

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Somerville
Sent: 24 November 2021 20:40
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

 

Hi Roger,

 

as far as I can see the TCI feature for sample data is only implemented for I/Q data from ExpertSDR, not foe baseband PCM audio which is what is needed for WSJT-X, although audio does seem to be promised in some future version of TCI. Looking at the TCI 1.6 spec it does have commands to control audio streams, so maybe it is implemented.

 

I see the CAT via a virtual COM port uses a TS-480 emulation, I don't see why that would limit the SDR to 100 Hz steps, what do you have set in the "Step" drop-down list in ExpertSDR?

 

73
Bill
G4WJS.

 

On 24/11/2021 20:16, Roger Corbett wrote:

Hi Bill,

Just to add another number to the count. I too have a SunSDR and Id love to be able to use TCI directly from WSJT-X.

Currently Im using MacLoggerDX to do the connection which is fine but I’ve never been able to get any sort of doppler correction working with that setup.

Thats not totally true but 100hz steps, which is all I’ve been able to achieve, is useless as a microwave IF.

 

73

Roger ZL3RC



On 25/11/2021, at 8:43 AM, Charlie Morrison <charlie@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill

 

There are a great many users of the SunSDR range, and I for one  would love to see TCI incorporated as a CAT  option…It can also stream the Audio which gets around having to use VAC with its attendant artefacts. Perhaps it could be investigated

 

73, Charlie GI4FUE

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of ????? ??????? via groups.io
Sent: 24 November 2021 17:25
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

 

Hi Bill, Mike

This question arose during the discussion on the site forum.qrz.ru of the capabilities of the WSJTX, JTDX and MSHV programs by users of SUN SDR transceivers. Surprised that WSJTX does not use TCI communication technology.

Thanks.

73 Boris UX8IW

Среда, 24 ноября 2021, 0:39 +02:00 от Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>:
 

On 23/11/2021 19:33, Борис Романов via groups.io wrote:

Hi,

Maybe I don’t know something, but I want to ask.

Is the WSJTX program supposed to control the SDR transceiver (CAT and sound) via the TCI interface?

This control is implemented in the JTDX and MSW programs.

73 Boris UX8IW

Hi Boris,

as far as I am aware, you are the first to ask. No WSJT-X does not currently support that rig control mechanism. If there is enough interest I can look at implementing it, or if anyone wants to contribute an implementation as a pull request I will consider its inclusion in WSJT-X.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



 

 

 

--
Борис Романов

 
locked Re: TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

Bill Somerville
 

Hi Roger,

as far as I can see the TCI feature for sample data is only implemented for I/Q data from ExpertSDR, not foe baseband PCM audio which is what is needed for WSJT-X, although audio does seem to be promised in some future version of TCI. Looking at the TCI 1.6 spec it does have commands to control audio streams, so maybe it is implemented.

I see the CAT via a virtual COM port uses a TS-480 emulation, I don't see why that would limit the SDR to 100 Hz steps, what do you have set in the "Step" drop-down list in ExpertSDR?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 24/11/2021 20:16, Roger Corbett wrote:
Hi Bill,
Just to add another number to the count. I too have a SunSDR and Id love to be able to use TCI directly from WSJT-X.
Currently Im using MacLoggerDX to do the connection which is fine but I’ve never been able to get any sort of doppler correction working with that setup.
Thats not totally true but 100hz steps, which is all I’ve been able to achieve, is useless as a microwave IF.

73
Roger ZL3RC

On 25/11/2021, at 8:43 AM, Charlie Morrison <charlie@...> wrote:

Hi Bill
 
There are a great many users of the SunSDR range, and I for one  would love to see TCI incorporated as a CAT  option…It can also stream the Audio which gets around having to use VAC with its attendant artefacts. Perhaps it could be investigated
 
73, Charlie GI4FUE
 
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of ????? ??????? via groups.io
Sent: 24 November 2021 17:25
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl
 
Hi Bill, Mike
This question arose during the discussion on the site forum.qrz.ru of the capabilities of the WSJTX, JTDX and MSHV programs by users of SUN SDR transceivers. Surprised that WSJTX does not use TCI communication technology.
Thanks.
73 Boris UX8IW
Среда, 24 ноября 2021, 0:39 +02:00 от Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...>:
 
On 23/11/2021 19:33, Борис Романов via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
Maybe I don’t know something, but I want to ask.
Is the WSJTX program supposed to control the SDR transceiver (CAT and sound) via the TCI interface?
This control is implemented in the JTDX and MSW programs.
73 Boris UX8IW

Hi Boris,

as far as I am aware, you are the first to ask. No WSJT-X does not currently support that rig control mechanism. If there is enough interest I can look at implementing it, or if anyone wants to contribute an implementation as a pull request I will consider its inclusion in WSJT-X.

73
Bill
G4WJS.



 
 
 
--
Борис Романов
locked Re: #raspberryPi #install #raspberryPi #install

Loyd
 

Hello Mr. Edd
I have heard that the Bulleye os has some issues with installing some programs.
go back Buster and try install WSJTX
 here is a link to get it if needed


On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:18 AM Edward Seeliger <eseeliger@...> wrote:
I have attempted to build wsjtx-2.5.2 for Raspian Bullseye (32 GB card) from source for the RPI Zero W2 following the recipe contained in the source tarball.
The build fails (crashes the RPI Zero W2) at the 61% location (Performing build step for 'wsjtx'). There are no error messages.
I must restart the RPI Zero W2 to recover operation.
The recipe builds hamlib without errors.
I have installed all the dependencies as listed and installed CMake using snap - CMake version 3.22.0 --Classic version. All the dependencies exceed the minimum required versions.
Any suggestions on how to proceed / correct the error are appreciated.
Edd - KD5M




--
Loyd C. Headrick
WX4LH
locked Re: TCI-Client for Sun SDR #Cat_RigControl

PH7R - Ronald
 

Same +1
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