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Re: new version 25 doesnt switch ic9100 to usb-d mode
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bob lee
Hi Bill, I sent a few minutes ago but it must have gone to cyberspace so I'll try again
I added the dll to ver25 and it does startup data mode (great) however the filter is changed to #2 position which is narrower Yesterday I noticed after using ver 24 that is sets up fine usb=d and filter #1 but after closing wsjtx and going back to just USB mode that the filter was selected as #2 I had noticed this before but thought I had selected it working SSB with some adjacent qrm So when I use mmsstv I set it up in the menus to call the freq (not shown) and usb data mode FEFE7cE01A060101FD I also setup a data mode off button for when I leave mmsstv FEFE7cE01A060000FD I'm wondering if there is some place in the files where as wsjtx is initialized that the USB data mode command could be inserted This was from the manual pg 193 I though of using a script or bat file but I think wsjtx would write over it with the usb-d with filter#2 thanks, Bob VE3CGA
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Hi Ian,
Behavior of the MAP65 files that you describe is exactly as it should be. Xpol data files have extension .tf2 and are opened when Xpol is selected. Single-polarization files are half as big, have the .iq extension, and are opened whan Xpol is not selected. Opening a file causes MAP65 to read and decode the entire file. Normally this takes just a few seconds. A screenshot showing MAP65 after reading Xpol example file 061111_0745.tf2 is attached. Seven EME signals are found and decoded. -- 73, Joe, K1JT
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Re: new version 25 doesnt switch ic9100 to usb-d mode
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bob lee
Hi Bill, well just about there.
the usb-d mode is now selected going into wsjtx however the rig is put into filter 2 which really narrows the field of view additionally it leaves the USB mode in filter#2 as version 24 does as I found out yesterday (below) Running version 24 I never realized it (originally thought it had been previously set by me) but although it starts up just fine with usb-d mode & filter set at #1, when I exit and manually switch back out of data mode, whatever band was selected with wsjt-x is left in filter #2 even though wsjt-x ran in data mode with the filter set to filter #1. In other words, with wsjtx exited, manually switching to usb mode the filter is now filter #2. Manually switching back to data mode shows filter #1 (good) I dont know if the data mode ON cmd $FEFE7cE01A060101FD could be inserted into the 9100 configuration Different program but I have do this with mmsstv radio commands for each bands then I deselect, put mode back to USB with filter untouched: $FEFE7cE01A060000FD From the manual pg 193: I wonder if there is somewhere in the wsjtx files where I could insert these command strings tnx Bob VE3CGA
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Reino Talarmo
Perhaps it was GridTracker.
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73, Reino OH3mA
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From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Somerville Sent: 15. lokakuutata 2021 17:05 To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Subject: Re: [WSJTX] my memory is failing... #NewUser On 15/10/2021 14:29, Andrew Thall k2oo wrote: I've been away from FT8 for a long time. Besides WSJT-x, I remember aHi Andy, if that is on MS Windows then you probably mean JTAlert. 73 Bill G4WJS.
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On 15/10/2021 14:29, Andrew Thall k2oo wrote:
I've been away from FT8 for a long time. Besides WSJT-x, I remember a program that showed callsigns in a grid that ran at the same time --Hi Andy, if that is on MS Windows then you probably mean JTAlert. 73 Bill G4WJS.
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Michael Black
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On Friday, October 15, 2021, 08:59:50 AM CDT, Andrew Thall k2oo <thall@...> wrote:
I've been away from FT8 for a long time. Besides WSJT-x, I remember a program that showed callsigns in a grid that ran at the same time -- but I can't remember the name of the program. Can you give me the name of that program???? Thanks. Andy, k2oo
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I've been away from FT8 for a long time. Besides WSJT-x, I remember a program that showed callsigns in a grid that ran at the same time -- but I can't remember the name of the program. Can you give me the name of that program????
Thanks. Andy, k2oo
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Ian Morrison <ve7ai73@...>
Hi Bill Checked the configuration several times all seems good. Did an uninstall and a fresh download and copied the demo files. The first is an iq type file of 19 MB and can only be selected if x pol is set. The second is a tf2 type file of 38 MB and can only be selected by MAP65 if x pol is not set (single polarization) Both files run for a few seconds and stop. The wide spectrum advances but no signals are visible. Have you tried these files with MAP65 3.0 ? 73 Ian
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 3:55 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
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Re: #FoxAndHound #Cat_RigControl Saving preferences changes rig dial frequency
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Bernd - KB7AK
Thanks for that tip Bill, works like a charm.
73, Bernd - KB7AK
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Andy Talbot
I have a source for an MS beacon that generates MSK144 directly at 50MHz by programming a DDS chip. It is straightforward to generate the modulation, switching between two RF 'tones' exactly 1000Hz apart at the symbol rate of 2kHz The snag with doing that though is that there is no filtering of the sidelobes, those that are generated above the null at 3kHz separation from the centre frequency, on either side due to the abrupt frequency transition. In conventional usage, upconversion in an SSB transmitter, these will clearly be removed by the SSB filter. Would it be permissible in my case to add a small amount of Gaussian shaping to the waveform, to turn it into GMSK to lower those sidelobes a bit? Will the decoder manage to track this? Assuming there will be some degradation in decoder efficiency do you have any feel for how bad this may be and what sort of B value would be acceptable? Looking at the spectrum of the raw audio from WSJT-X when sending MSK144, it looks very similar to the right hand side of mine at RF, with the reappearance of audio above 3kHz. Andy
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Re: Working split
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On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 06:11 AM, chas cartmel wrote:
Typically what I do, is try and find a clear timeslot and park there. I don't shift to the operators frequency I'm responding to because I'm scared I'll step on someone who is using the same frequency on the other slot. Every few minutes I'll stop and make sure I'm not being stepped on and QSY if I'm interfering/being interfered with. So far that's worked for me.
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Re: new version 25 doesnt switch ic9100 to usb-d mode
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#Icom
On 14/10/2021 13:11, bob lee wrote:
thanks Bill, the file is on the wayHi Bob, this has been confirmed as a Hamlib regression which has recently been repaired, as you are on Windows you can try using an updated Hamlib DLL. Try putting the libhamlib-4.dll from the bin directory in this archive of the daily Hamlib snapshot builds into your WSJT-X bin directory (C:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\): http://n0nb.users.sourceforge.net/hamlib-w64-4.4~git-16a879bc-20211014.zip This assumes you are using a 64-bit install of WSJT-X. If you are using a 32-bit install then the 32-bit archive is available from here: http://n0nb.users.sourceforge.net/ 73 Bill G4WJS.
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Re: new version 25 doesnt switch ic9100 to usb-d mode
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bob lee
thanks Bill, the file is on the way
Bob VE3CGA
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Re: Using the FlexRadio IQ channel with WSJT-X and MAP65
#Q65
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#FlexRadio
#Windows10
Amos,
as you think it is a simple software
job to synchronize pair of independent I/Q data streams, then I
propose you tell us the algorithm to do so. You must decide which
I or Q sample in one stream is taken at exactly the same time as
an I or Q sample respectively from the the other stream. Given
that all that is received over an audio channel used to convey I/Q
data is a continuous stream of samples, how do you propose to
identify the exact capture time of samples with respect to the
other continuous stream of samples?
IMHO the only way to do this is either
to have timing information embedded in the data streams (that is
not what happens here), or the two streams are interleaved at
their sources such that each pair of I/Q samples is transmitted as
a pair of pairs, i.e. a 4-channel interleaved data stream.
I don't know where you got the
information that the Flex Radio multi-slice SDRs use a common
clock for all ADCs, which may well be the case but, once those ADC
samples are divide into two independent streams the
synchronization information is lost!
Is the Flex Radio SDR software able to
deliver *interleaved* I/Q data for two or more slices? If so then
doing so at an 96000Hz sample rate is exactly what MAP65 needs for
polarization diversity. If not then there is no way to proceed
IMHO.
73
Bill G4WJS.
On 14/10/2021 12:51, Amos Sobel 4X4MF
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Re: Using the FlexRadio IQ channel with WSJT-X and MAP65
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#map65
#FlexRadio
#Windows10
Amos Sobel 4X4MF
Bill
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1. WSJT-X accepts the IQ stream it does create almost similar FT8 results as the base band. 3.1 I am using an H/V Yagi with symmetrical horizontal and vertical 10 by 10 elements on the same boom. 3.2 Flex 6600 has 2 antenna inputs with a 16 bit A/D converters on each antenna input creating a base band and an IQ data stream. Both ADC operate from the same clock. 3.3 Merging the 2 data streams into an interleaved single stream appears to me as a simple software job that can be done by WSJT-X or Flex. Amos 4X4MF
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From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Somerville Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:20 PM To: main@WSJTX.groups.io Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Using the FlexRadio IQ channel with WSJT-X and MAP65 #Q65 #map65 #FlexRadio #Windows10 On 14/10/2021 08:47, Amos Sobel 4X4MF wrote: I have recently discovered that WSJT-X v.2.5.0 does accept the DAX IQHi Amos, 1) no WSJT-X does not currently understand I/Q data, you will get some decodes by selection one of the I or Q channels but that is sub-optimal and you should use a base band audio stream of up to 5 kHz bandwidth as input. 2) Q65 is no different, the front end audio processing in WSJT-X is the same for all modes. 3) I have explained this before to you, for polarization diversity mode MAP65 requires a pair of synchronized I/Q data streams. That can only happen if the two data sources are received from co-located aerials (receiving the same wave-front), use a pair of ADCs sharing a common clock, and the two data streams are interleaved so that MAP65 can process each sample together with its partner from the other ADC (other polarization). As far as I know none of this is possible using a Flex Radio multi-slice SDR since the I/Q data sources are independent (think Humpty Dumpty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty, once broken some things cannot be easily reassembled!) 73 Bill G4WJS.
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Hi Ian,
the "Decode" button should turn cyan
for a second or more at around seconds 51 and 57 of the minute
(depends on the modes selected). The correct timing of the decoder
activity also depends on the correct sample rates being selected,
are you you using the default 96000 rate, and does that match the
rate that Linrad is sending I/Q data at? Do you have the MAP65
Xpol setting set correctly for your system?
73
Bill G4WJS.
On 14/10/2021 11:47, Ian Morrison
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Ian Morrison <ve7ai73@...>
Hi Bill I have not yet seen a MAP65 operating normally. What time does the decode light normally blink? Does the decode light blink even if a decode is not likely? Is the decoder solely time initiated? Any bit of information will give me a direction to snoop. 73 Ian
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 3:22 AM Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
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Re: new version 25 doesnt switch ic9100 to usb-d mode
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#Icom
On 14/10/2021 00:47, bob lee wrote:
hi all, upgraded from version 24 to version 25 and have noticed the new version doesnt put my 9100 into data mode, it stays in usb (voice) modeHi Bob, so I can see what is happening please run the following test. Put the attached file into your WSJT-X configuration files directory (on MS Windows that is the same as the log files directory "Menu->Open log directory"), restart WSJT-X, carry out a *minimal* test that demonstrates the issue, then quit WSJT-X. It will have created a file called WSJT-X_RigControl.log on your Desktop. Send me (g4wjs <at> classdesign <dot> com) the log file for analysis please? Once you have sent the log file you can delete the log file and log configuration file to return to normal operation. 73 Bill G4WJS.
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Hi Ian,
yes that may be a clue, but I have no
idea what is happening. Perhaps a conversation with one of the
other EME ops using Linrad as a source for MAP65 may help discover
what is different about your system.
73
Bill G4WJS.
On 13/10/2021 23:36, Ian Morrison
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Re: Using the FlexRadio IQ channel with WSJT-X and MAP65
#Q65
#map65
#FlexRadio
#Windows10
On 14/10/2021 08:47, Amos Sobel 4X4MF wrote:
I have recently discovered that WSJT-X v.2.5.0 does accept the DAX IQ RX audio channels of my Flex 6600 instead of the DAX Audio Rx I did use for years.Hi Amos, 1) no WSJT-X does not currently understand I/Q data, you will get some decodes by selection one of the I or Q channels but that is sub-optimal and you should use a base band audio stream of up to 5 kHz bandwidth as input. 2) Q65 is no different, the front end audio processing in WSJT-X is the same for all modes. 3) I have explained this before to you, for polarization diversity mode MAP65 requires a pair of synchronized I/Q data streams. That can only happen if the two data sources are received from co-located aerials (receiving the same wave-front), use a pair of ADCs sharing a common clock, and the two data streams are interleaved so that MAP65 can process each sample together with its partner from the other ADC (other polarization). As far as I know none of this is possible using a Flex Radio multi-slice SDR since the I/Q data sources are independent (think Humpty Dumpty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty, once broken some things cannot be easily reassembled!) 73 Bill G4WJS.
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