On Oct 10, 2021, at 10:35, KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz@...> wrote:

Then, in addition, are we assuming that the bands are known to be jammed up with traffic, so I should dispense thereafter with the abbreviated RR73 format?? Makes good sense in retrospect now.'Cuz that has happened so very much to me in the last few days on 12, with my pip-squeak transmitted power.

Apply a little logic.. If you are running a pip-squeak antenna or power (or both), you should expect to not be heard every transmission. Be prepared to use RRR on a normal basis. I you regularly have to do repeats, you should assume the same. If it is a very strong station, you may be able to go back to RR73. Most HF seems to use and only require RR73. On the other hand, if you’re running VHF with a non-local, RR73 should not be assumed. If you’re on MSK144, please don’t use RR73. By definition, MS is hit and miss, mostly miss.

Gary - AG0N

On 10/10/2021 18:46, Neil Foster wrote:

I have noticed that some stations are reported as CW in my ve7cc cluster, when clearly they are in a Digital mode by the frequency displayed. I wonder why that is?    Neil   N4FN

Hi Neil,

as far as I know the DX Cluster protocol does not include the mode of the spot unless the spotter includes that information in the notes. Therefore it is down to the client receiving the spots to interpret what the mode might be, possibly from the spotted frequency.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Hi Reg,
To me it looks like you have a notch filter set to 2 kHz. I'm not saying that you have, but that's what it looks like.
73 Mike G0LQI

You hit the nail on the head Charlie.

73.
Carl - WC4H

Hi,

Trying to set up WSJT-X in combination with Omni-Rig. RX works as expected and the FT-897 is responding correctly. But at TX, the freq. display turns red and showing 0,0000. It is just the diplay because I can still make QSO's and the FT-897 stays at the same frequenty as for RX. I did not make any changes in the Frequency list.
I don't have this issue when setting up the radio without Omni-Rig.

Any suggestions?

73, Nico PA3ADU

I have noticed that some stations are reported as CW in my ve7cc cluster, when clearly they are in a Digital mode by the frequency displayed. I wonder why that is?    Neil   N4FN

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73 Phil GM3ZZA

I have a TS870 with WSJT-X with no problems operating for over 2 years. Well working the recent dxpeditions over the last few days i have on occasion used fox /hound mode.This has always been returned to normal mode operating when a station has been worked.
Today I switched on the radio to continue working stations and noticed the stations being received and decoded were very close together on the frequency graph ranging from approx 0Khz -1500Khz only. I have checked that all the settings normally used are correct. with the software and radio. I only use the radio for operating with WSJT-X only and not adjusted any of the controls since setting up 2 years ago. It would only  have been done  inadvertently. I think the problem is related to the radio settings as I have used MSHV to see if the same problem exists on that software, and it does.
I have been advised that my frequency could be off a bit. I think this is okay because the frequencies i am using are set in WSJT-X so all I need to do is click on the chosen frequency which then tunes the radio to that frequency where I am able to decode the stations with no problem..
Filter Bandwidth is set to off which is the default setting for digital operation.
Any help to solve this problem would be appreciated. Just had to happen for my last day to work the dxepeditions.
Many thanks.
Reg

Hey Bill!!

THANKS.
Just added two new countries on 12m AFTER I disabled the RR73

What I saw was me repeating RRR and after 3 to 6 times THEY replied with the 73 and my program logged it.

No wonder you guys put in the caveat, in the manual, that suggests only use RR73 if you are SURE the other station will have copied you!


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Bob KD7YZ in NE Kentucky

Hello Bill Somerville:

Sunday, October 10, 2021, 11:59:38 AM, you chiseled out:

 On 10/10/2021 16:56, KD7YZ Bob wrote:

Hello WSJT-X List

So, these past few days, 12m has been SUPER into EU, Balkans,Adriatic, Southern Med.

Many many times, the other chap hasn't been able to decode my RR73.

So She/He keeps sending R-11, for example. Over and over.

By MY program KEEPS REVERTING TO TX6 (CQ).

I have to try and try to reclaim TX4.

Occasionally I see I didn't and I am sending CQ again.

So I wonder how many Not-Worked-DXCC entities I have missed these last few days because they, understandably, move on to others that they are decoding.

It "should" be understood that,  both this side of the Atlantic and the other, my signal outgoing is from time to time stepped on ??

If so, the program should KEEP my "TX##" just where I want it, not keep moving it to CQ ...which I sure as heck don't want to do ??

Yeh, i have "Disable Tx after 73" DISABLED.

WSJTx v2.5.0

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73,

KD7YZ Bob EM88LL

if your QSO partners are regularly not copying your RR73 messages then you shouldn't be sending RR73 in the first place

Hello Bill.
Thanks for taking the time.

Welllll ...I have no a'priori knowledge that he isn't going to decode the RR73.
O in the haste of battle, namely an open band where seemingly all the DX lads over there arer using the abbreviated format, I opt for the same.

It'sa crapshoot, as we say in colonies.

Sometimes this Omnirig, they followed right on thru to their final 73 .
Many other times they kept repeating R-03, for example.

So, with respect to that scenario, are you then suggesting it's tactically better for me to, IMMEDIATE the decode of their repeated TX3, that revert IMMEDIATELY to RRR; send it, and keep that format thereafter??

Then, in addition, are we assuming that the bands are known to be jammed up with traffic, so I should dispense thereafter with the abbreviated RR73 format?? Makes good sense in retrospect now.'Cuz that has happened so very much to me in the last few days on 12, with my pip-squeak transmitted power.

Thanks for the timely tip.

. Double-click the Tx 4 message to switch it to the RRR format message and the QSOs will proceed as you wish.

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Best regards,

Bob KD7YZ EM88LL





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Bob KD7YZ in NE Kentucky

Hello Philip Rose via groups.io:

Sunday, October 10, 2021, 12:04:27 PM, you chiseled out:

 Bob,

If you reenable TX after sending RR73,

yes sir, it does. And for ONE-Time ONLY

then I have to reposition the active TX#


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Best regards,

Bob KD7YZ EM88LL





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Bob KD7YZ in NE Kentucky

On 10/10/2021 16:56, KD7YZ Bob wrote:

Hello WSJT-X List

So, these past few days, 12m has been SUPER into EU, Balkans,Adriatic, Southern Med.

Many many times, the other chap hasn't been able to decode my RR73.
So She/He keeps sending R-11, for example. Over and over.

By MY program KEEPS REVERTING TO TX6 (CQ).

I have to try and try to reclaim TX4.
Occasionally I see I didn't and I am sending CQ again.

So I wonder how many Not-Worked-DXCC entities I have missed these last few days because they, understandably, move on to others that they are decoding.

It "should" be understood that, both this side of the Atlantic and the other, my signal outgoing is from time to time stepped on ??

If so, the program should KEEP my "TX##" just where I want it, not keep moving it to CQ ...which I sure as heck don't want to do ??

Yeh, i have "Disable Tx after 73" DISABLED.

WSJTx v2.5.0
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73,
KD7YZ Bob EM88LL

Bob,

if your QSO partners are regularly not copying your RR73 messages then you shouldn't be sending RR73 in the first place. Double-click the Tx 4 message to switch it to the RRR format message and the QSOs will proceed as you wish.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

Hello WSJT-X List

So, these past few days, 12m has been SUPER into EU, Balkans,Adriatic, Southern Med.

Many many times, the other chap hasn't been able to decode my RR73.
So She/He keeps sending R-11, for example. Over and over.

By MY program KEEPS REVERTING TO TX6 (CQ).

I have to try and try to reclaim TX4.
Occasionally I see I didn't and I am sending CQ again.

So I wonder how many Not-Worked-DXCC entities I have missed these last few days because they, understandably, move on to others that they are decoding.

It "should" be understood that, both this side of the Atlantic and the other, my signal outgoing is from time to time stepped on ??

If so, the program should KEEP my "TX##" just where I want it, not keep moving it to CQ ...which I sure as heck don't want to do ??

Yeh, i have "Disable Tx after 73" DISABLED.

WSJTx v2.5.0
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KD7YZ Bob EM88LL



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Bob KD7YZ in NE Kentucky

I set my WSJT-X software for FAKE IT or SPLIT to control the K3S radio.  It really makes no difference in my case.   When I answer a CQ, I double click on the calling station and let the software do the rest.    When I call CQ, I choose what I see as a clear frequency on my waterfall and call.    When a station calls me, maybe on my frequency or a different frequency, again I let the software do the rest.    When I choose to use Hold TX Freq that is done when the band is crowded and I find a clear frequency on my receiving end.    

Frankly, I don't see that any of these methods is a massive benefit or a hindrance.   It is just an enjoyable hobby and working stations on FT-8 or FT-4 is more like shooting birds in a cage.  So easy. 

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 10/10/2021 11:41, Amos Sobel 4X4MF wrote:

FT8 Fox and Hound have become very popular lately but it has a problem:
My calls for  J5HKT yesterday and today on 7,10, 18 Mhz does last about 2.5 minutes. Enable Tx becomes Halt Tx. This in in contrast to the usual FT8 call which does last 6 minute by default.

Is it a failure or by design?

Amos 4X4MF

Hi Amos,

see point 11 in the "Detailed Instructions for Hounds" section in this document:

https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf

I is intended and designed to try an minimize QRM above 1000 Hz where many Hounds may be calling together. You only need hit ENTER to restart you call.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

FT8 Fox and Hound have become very popular lately but it has a problem:
My calls for  J5HKT yesterday and today on 7,10, 18 Mhz does last about 2.5 minutes. Enable Tx becomes Halt Tx. This in in contrast to the usual FT8 call which does last 6 minute by default.

Is it a failure or by design?

Amos 4X4MF

OK, after fighting this for days, I finally grabbed a ferrite and wrapped my USB cable (never had an issue with this cable with previous setups) just in case this was an RFI issue:

https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main/topic/69952737

Absolutely no effect whatsoever.  Continual sound input error dialogs. The Microphone privacy switch is not an issue as I posted earlier.

So, I set up an elderly Toshiba Satellite running Windows 7, hooked it up with the same cable same driver, same software, same place in the shack, and it's been running for 7 hours w/o a hitch.

The computer is a brand-new Asus VivoBook 17 K712EA, and I never dreamed that I would have any issues with it. I've got a limited amount of time to return it.  I'd really appreciate feedback.

73
Jeff Elkins