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locked Re: Working split

chas cartmel
 

Bob
I think you have missed the point here, the software does it’s own thing regardless, no interference needed.
The issue is that some stations who are not using the ‘Hold Frequency’ feature call the CQ station on their frequency, complete the QSO, and then proceed to call CQ themselves on that frequency instead of moving off.

There is nothing wrong with responding to a CQ station on their frequency so long as you remember to QSY when the QSO is over. If ‘Hold Frequency’ is set you don’t need to.

On phone you wouldn’t start calling CQ on the frequency already held by a station when your QSO is over.


73 Charlie

G4EST

www.g4est.me.uk

Stay safe out there

 



 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: 10 October 2021 14:47
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Working split

 

I set my WSJT-X software for FAKE IT or SPLIT to control the K3S radio.  It really makes no difference in my case.   When I answer a CQ, I double click on the calling station and let the software do the rest.    When I call CQ, I choose what I see as a clear frequency on my waterfall and call.    When a station calls me, maybe on my frequency or a different frequency, again I let the software do the rest.    When I choose to use Hold TX Freq that is done when the band is crowded and I find a clear frequency on my receiving end.    

Frankly, I don't see that any of these methods is a massive benefit or a hindrance.   It is just an enjoyable hobby and working stations on FT-8 or FT-4 is more like shooting birds in a cage.  So easy. 

73
Bob, K4TAX


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locked Re: Working split

Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...>
 

I set my WSJT-X software for FAKE IT or SPLIT to control the K3S radio.  It really makes no difference in my case.   When I answer a CQ, I double click on the calling station and let the software do the rest.    When I call CQ, I choose what I see as a clear frequency on my waterfall and call.    When a station calls me, maybe on my frequency or a different frequency, again I let the software do the rest.    When I choose to use Hold TX Freq that is done when the band is crowded and I find a clear frequency on my receiving end.    

Frankly, I don't see that any of these methods is a massive benefit or a hindrance.   It is just an enjoyable hobby and working stations on FT-8 or FT-4 is more like shooting birds in a cage.  So easy. 

73
Bob, K4TAX


locked Re: FoxAndHoun last only 2.5 minutes #FoxAndHound

Bill Somerville
 

On 10/10/2021 11:41, Amos Sobel 4X4MF wrote:
FT8 Fox and Hound have become very popular lately but it has a problem:
My calls for  J5HKT yesterday and today on 7,10, 18 Mhz does last about 2.5 minutes. Enable Tx becomes Halt Tx. This in in contrast to the usual FT8 call which does last 6 minute by default.

Is it a failure or by design?

Amos 4X4MF
Hi Amos,

see point 11 in the "Detailed Instructions for Hounds" section in this document:

https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf

I is intended and designed to try an minimize QRM above 1000 Hz where many Hounds may be calling together. You only need hit ENTER to restart you call.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked FoxAndHoun last only 2.5 minutes #FoxAndHound

Amos Sobel 4X4MF
 

FT8 Fox and Hound have become very popular lately but it has a problem:
My calls for  J5HKT yesterday and today on 7,10, 18 Mhz does last about 2.5 minutes. Enable Tx becomes Halt Tx. This in in contrast to the usual FT8 call which does last 6 minute by default.

Is it a failure or by design?

Amos 4X4MF


locked Re: sound input error #windows11 #AudioIssues #Icom

Jeff Elkins
 

OK, after fighting this for days, I finally grabbed a ferrite and wrapped my USB cable (never had an issue with this cable with previous setups) just in case this was an RFI issue:

https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main/topic/69952737

Absolutely no effect whatsoever.  Continual sound input error dialogs. The Microphone privacy switch is not an issue as I posted earlier.

So, I set up an elderly Toshiba Satellite running Windows 7, hooked it up with the same cable same driver, same software, same place in the shack, and it's been running for 7 hours w/o a hitch.

The computer is a brand-new Asus VivoBook 17 K712EA, and I never dreamed that I would have any issues with it. I've got a limited amount of time to return it.  I'd really appreciate feedback.

73
Jeff Elkins



locked Re: WSJTX 2.5.0 full release issue #decode #QSO_practices

Bill Somerville
 

On 09/10/2021 18:25, JJ Knight wrote:
While calling CQ, If a station responds thru the conversation, if he sends me a 73, my software disengages the ENABLE button and resets. See image of QSO. This doesn't happen when I'm calling someone directly. I have to come back and resend the 73 manually.

Why?

JJ
N5MNX
Hi JJ,

your expectations should not be any different from the examples given in the WSJT-X User Guide:

https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.5.0.html#_standard_exchange

You can always send a courtesy 73 or free text message after a QSO is done by selecting the Tx5 message, or entering a free text message there up to 13 characters, and pressing the "Enable Tx" button.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked WSJTX 2.5.0 full release issue #decode #QSO_practices

JJ Knight
 

While calling CQ, If a station responds thru the conversation, if he sends me a 73, my software disengages the ENABLE button and resets. See image of QSO. This doesn't happen when I'm calling someone directly. I have to come back and resend the 73 manually.

Why?

JJ
N5MNX



locked Re: sound input error #windows11 #AudioIssues #Icom

Jeff Elkins
 

Yeah, I jumped through all the RealTek hoops;  disabled the rt devices in device manager, disabled driver updates, even booted into safe mode and moved the rt drivers out of the way.  Bill says that the RtkIntU642.dll is not likely to be related, so I guess that was a red herring.


locked Re: sound input error #windows11 #AudioIssues #Icom

Alan G4ZFQ
 

Jeff
All the privacy options are checked.
I guess we are all waiting for some genius to answer!
The error seems to involve the RealTek audio device. But that should not be seen if it is disabled. In any case it has nothing to do with your setup.

Have you tried uninstalling it? Even delete drivers, stop it re-installing.

I did have trouble with Windows "updating" my Realtek but that just stopped it working properly. I got drivers from Realtek and all was restored.

73 Alan G4ZFQ


locked Re: sound input error #windows11 #AudioIssues #Icom

Jeff Elkins
 

All the privacy options are checked.


locked Re: Working split

n1ig.anthony@...
 

 Not every caller seems to answer replies on my original tx freq.  even though they saw me on freq A, they only reply when I reply on their freq B. 


doesn’t make sense to me, but it sometimes is the case. 



Anthony - N1IG


locked Re: Working split

 

It looks like the caller in question has a large drift - ~1 Hz/minute.

 

BTW I second your request.

 

73 Phil

 

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From: chas cartmel
Sent: 09 October 2021 12:11
To: WSJTX@groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] Working split

 

May I ask those responding to a CQ who are moving to the caller’s frequency to then QSY when QSO is completed. It is best to keep your transmit frequency selected to avoid this. It is unnecessary to move to the CQers frequency.

 

73 Charlie

G4EST

www.g4est.me.uk

Stay safe out there

 

 

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locked Re: Working split

Mark Gregory <mark.gregory@...>
 

I tend to lock the tx frequency and then fake the split I do not operate on the callers frequency, using the waterfall display to help, like anytime in radio listen listen and listen again so your on as far as you can tell a less busy frequency.
Mark G4LCH

On 9 Oct 2021, at 11:24, chas cartmel <chas@...> wrote:

May I ask those responding to a CQ who are moving to the caller’s frequency to then QSY when QSO is completed. It is best to keep your transmit frequency selected to avoid this. It is unnecessary to move to the CQers frequency.

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73 Charlie
G4EST
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locked Working split

chas cartmel
 

May I ask those responding to a CQ who are moving to the caller’s frequency to then QSY when QSO is completed. It is best to keep your transmit frequency selected to avoid this. It is unnecessary to move to the CQers frequency.

 

73 Charlie

G4EST

www.g4est.me.uk

Stay safe out there

 


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locked Re: re-establishing wsjtx log #WSJTX_config

Bill Somerville
 

On 09/10/2021 03:21, John Wiener wrote:
Bill,
Where precisely should they go?  Does this look better? I seem to remember that they should be under SAVE

It's been an interesting and LONG process to get my shack back in order after the OS update...amazing.
I still have glitches...RUMlogng no longer populates the qso with name, address, etc.  I can't get RUMlogng to change from using hamqth to qrz.com...but it won't pull down data from either one. On WSJT-X, worked-before still doesn't work.
Thanks again, OM
John AB8O
Hi John,

yes that is the correct location, assuming the WSJT-X directory it self is in the right location. As Reino states, an easy way to locate the right location is to use WSJT-X, "Menu->File->Open log directory" will open a new Finder window located in the correct place.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


locked Re: re-establishing wsjtx log #WSJTX_config

Reino Talarmo
 

 

 

Bill,
Where precisely should they go? 
Does this look better? I seem to remember that they should be under SAVE

It's been an interesting and LONG process to get my shack back in order after the OS update...amazing.
I still have glitches...RUMlogng no longer populates the qso with name, address, etc.  I can't get RUMlogng to change from using hamqth to qrz.com...but it won't pull down data from either one.  On WSJT-X, worked-before still doesn't work.
Thanks again, OM
John AB8O

Hi John,

As Bill told they should not be in the save directory, but in the same directory where the save directory is, see User Guide ‘15.1. File locations’ that states Log directory: %LOCALAPPDATA%\WSJT-X\

An easy way to go there is via menu File – Open log directory

73, Reino OH3mA

 

 


locked Re: WSJT-X feature request : filter field #EnhancementReqest

Reino Talarmo
 

Hi Roger,

Your proposal works, but there are three issues to make it less useful for the proposed feature:

-        decoding attempt is first tried on the green goalpost, but if the first decoding round fails on that station, then the message will be in an undefined position

-        DX station may move to another frequency at any time

-        all messages from that station will be presented, not only CQ and perhaps RR73 or 73.

Some external program would be nice, but e.g. JTAlert works only in Windows.

By the way, this was only an observation. I am not supporting this kind of addition into the wsjt-x program itself.

73, Reino OH3mA

 

Hi Jeff,

You may not have noticed this but the station on the top of the decode list is the station in the green RX maker on the waterfall display.

So if Im understanding your question this would do what you want.

Simply place the green RX maker over where the DX is and you can simply click on the station to do this.

Then all the communications from that station will be the first listing each period.


locked Re: re-establishing wsjtx log #WSJTX_config

John Wiener
 

Bill,
Where precisely should they go?  Does this look better? I seem to remember that they should be under SAVE

It's been an interesting and LONG process to get my shack back in order after the OS update...amazing.
I still have glitches...RUMlogng no longer populates the qso with name, address, etc.  I can't get RUMlogng to change from using hamqth to qrz.com...but it won't pull down data from either one.  On WSJT-X, worked-before still doesn't work.
Thanks again, OM
John AB8O


locked Re: WSJT-X feature request : filter field #EnhancementReqest

Roger Corbett <roger.corbett@...>
 

Hi Jeff,
You may not have noticed this but the station on the top of the decode list is the station in the green RX maker on the waterfall display.
So if Im understanding your question this would do what you want.
Simply place the green RX maker over where the DX is and you can simply click on the station to do this.
Then all the communications from that station will be the first listing each period.

Have a look at the “Start new periods decodes at top” and “Blank line between decoding periods” check boxes as these will make it easier to see with large decode lists.

73

Roger ZL3RC


On Oct 8, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jeff | VA2SS via groups.io <jeff@...> wrote:

Hi, I am new to the group. 

I would like to share with the group a feature request.

I am looking for a function, that would be a text filed, to «filter» for a specific callsign, that may be partial or complete callsign for both the receiving or transmitting stations. I joined this group especially to ask for this feature, because I regulary hunt POTA activators calling using FT8. So my goal when doing FT8 or any mode at that time it is to contact THIS station. And because many hams are trying at the same time... things become very difficult to follow... I cannot only rely only by waiting when the station will eventually call CQ. I need to follow the entire conversation and to know when the hunted station is listening or transmitting.

So by having a «filter» option, I would be able to follow only this specific communication thread. Like I said.... filter could be for partial or complete callsign, does not matter.

But it will indeed make my life more easier, especially when the band is really crowed and every cycle contains to much transmission to fit inside a single window... HiHiiiiii!!! 😝😜🎉 . 

I am running a Mac M1 Mabook Air, and I do not want to add other software into the equation. IMHO, A filter option would be easy to implement.

Thanks for reading my message.

73 de Jeff | VA2SS



locked Re: WSJT-X feature request : filter field #EnhancementReqest

William Smith
 

You can already do something like that yourself with grep or equivalent in a command prompt. I use python programs for parsing ALL.TXT but that might be overkill for the feature you are looking for.

73, Willie N1JBJ


On Oct 8, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Jeff | VA2SS via groups.io <jeff@...> wrote:

Hi, I am new to the group.

I would like to share with the group a feature request.

I am looking for a function, that would be a text filed, to «filter» for a specific callsign, that may be partial or complete callsign for both the receiving or transmitting stations. I joined this group especially to ask for this feature, because I regulary hunt POTA activators calling using FT8. So my goal when doing FT8 or any mode at that time it is to contact THIS station. And because many hams are trying at the same time... things become very difficult to follow... I cannot only rely only by waiting when the station will eventually call CQ. I need to follow the entire conversation and to know when the hunted station is listening or transmitting.

So by having a «filter» option, I would be able to follow only this specific communication thread. Like I said.... filter could be for partial or complete callsign, does not matter.

But it will indeed make my life more easier, especially when the band is really crowed and every cycle contains to much transmission to fit inside a single window... HiHiiiiii!!! 😝😜🎉 .

I am running a Mac M1 Mabook Air, and I do not want to add other software into the equation. IMHO, A filter option would be easy to implement.

Thanks for reading my message.

73 de Jeff | VA2SS


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