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locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Pat N6PAT
 

Here's an example of how JTAlert can be set up to show when there are call signs that you have worked before. The call sign is colored in both JTAlert-X and WSJT-X. You can choose whatever colors you want for each alert.I've also included the setting screen that shows some of the many features and functions that JTAlert-X has available as well as the wanted DXCC as another example. That feature allows you to list wanted DXCC by band and mode.

The flag in the top left of the call box indicates that the op uses LOTW. Call signs underlined are for ops that are using the text option that allows you to exchange text messages with them.












locked Re: FT8 deep decode speed on Pi 4B #FT8

Gary Rogers
 

I had the same problem with my Pi 400. Changing to normal decode helped somewhat but it was still pretty sluggish. I’ve reverted back to my MacBook and all is well now.

On Apr 10, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Mike Phipps <qrz@...> wrote:

Hi Bruce,

I used to use a Raspberry Pi 4B with 4 GB of memory running the 32-bit version of Raspbian Linux. I even had it running off of a Samsung 850 EVO SSD on a USB 3.0 adapter to cut down on the microSD card loading times. When there are a lot of signals in the band (such as on 20m), it will struggle to keep up, whereas a more powerful desktop or laptop machine on a reasonably modern Intel or AMD processor won’t. I suspect that it is something to do with the way that the ARM processor handles information… it’s a bit different than the x86 processors.

With that said, I have heard that there are some processing speed increases potentially possible when you run a 64-bit operating system on the Pi 4. Raspbian does not currently offer a stable version for arm64/aarch64, but others do (such as Debian, Ubuntu, etc.). You might try swapping out the microSD and trying, say, the arm64 port of Debian Buster (10.x - current stable) or Ubuntu Groovy (20.10 - current stable) on another card to see if you find any speed benefits.

I still have my Pi 4 sitting there doing nothing at the moment, as I have switched over to FreeBSD on an older Dell Latitude laptop for ham activities for now. I could try the arm64 stuff on my Pi 4 at some point, too.

Mike K8WU


On Apr 10, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Bruce KX4AZ <bruce@...> wrote:

I've been trying out WSJT-x with FT8 recently, running the latest full release on a Pi 4B w/4GB memory, 32GB microSD card, and I notice that on a crowded band (e.g. 20m in the afternoon, >35 stations), the final set of deep decodes will roll out as long as five seconds into the next 15s slot. Is this a typical decode speed for WSJT-x running on a Pi 4B? . On my Windows 10 desktop the deep decodes don't spill over more than a second or so. I'm assuming this just reflects the more limited processing power of the Pi. Not really an issue but I just wanted to confirm my performance is typical.




locked Re: FT8 deep decode speed on Pi 4B #FT8

Mike Phipps <qrz@...>
 

Hi Bruce,

I used to use a Raspberry Pi 4B with 4 GB of memory running the 32-bit version of Raspbian Linux. I even had it running off of a Samsung 850 EVO SSD on a USB 3.0 adapter to cut down on the microSD card loading times. When there are a lot of signals in the band (such as on 20m), it will struggle to keep up, whereas a more powerful desktop or laptop machine on a reasonably modern Intel or AMD processor won’t. I suspect that it is something to do with the way that the ARM processor handles information… it’s a bit different than the x86 processors.

With that said, I have heard that there are some processing speed increases potentially possible when you run a 64-bit operating system on the Pi 4. Raspbian does not currently offer a stable version for arm64/aarch64, but others do (such as Debian, Ubuntu, etc.). You might try swapping out the microSD and trying, say, the arm64 port of Debian Buster (10.x - current stable) or Ubuntu Groovy (20.10 - current stable) on another card to see if you find any speed benefits.

I still have my Pi 4 sitting there doing nothing at the moment, as I have switched over to FreeBSD on an older Dell Latitude laptop for ham activities for now. I could try the arm64 stuff on my Pi 4 at some point, too.

Mike K8WU

On Apr 10, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Bruce KX4AZ <bruce@...> wrote:

I've been trying out WSJT-x with FT8 recently, running the latest full release on a Pi 4B w/4GB memory, 32GB microSD card, and I notice that on a crowded band (e.g. 20m in the afternoon, >35 stations), the final set of deep decodes will roll out as long as five seconds into the next 15s slot. Is this a typical decode speed for WSJT-x running on a Pi 4B? . On my Windows 10 desktop the deep decodes don't spill over more than a second or so. I'm assuming this just reflects the more limited processing power of the Pi. Not really an issue but I just wanted to confirm my performance is typical.


locked Re: Prevent receive frequency from moving #FT8

Ed
 

Many times the sending FT8 station is strong with lots of stations trying to contact him, some with overpowering RF signals, thus lots of QRM - just look at the waterfall. All the strong signals make it hard to break through the QRM and contact the CQing station.

I seriously doubt most FT8/FT4 stations run the low power K1JT recommends!

I move my receiving frequency by hand and this appears to really help with QRM.

tnx all


locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Tom Melvin
 

On 10 Apr 2021, at 18:43, Phil Hazelton via groups.io <philhazelton@...> wrote:

Just wondering why there isn’t a worked before colour in wsjtx ? I’m no programmer but I would have thought it would be an easy thing to include in WSJT X?

It been a while since I set it up - mainly for contests dup checking just using wsjt-x log file.

Start with this:

From File, Settings, General, check the box to select “Show DXCC, grid, and worked before status”
From File, Settings, Colours, select only the following:
My Call in Message
New Call
CQ in Message
Transmitted Message

With these settings, stations who are calling CQ and who you have not worked, will appear with a light-blue background. If you have already worked them, the background will be green.


I can’t remember if I changed any of the default colours or not. You can see the basics, changes colours to suits, bring other options into play. Start small.

As others have said - JTAlert does a very good job of B4 and others filters.

B4 checking is possible as it stands

Tom
GM8MJV


On 10 Apr 2021, at 17:37, Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...> wrote:

I don't think many things "go wrong" with the actual WSJT-X software but I do find that sometimes with JT-Alert and/or Gridtracker , some of their "things" stop working and can be a pain to troubleshoot. So I tend to just run WSJT-X along with DXLabSuite for logging and use DXLab Suite to do various tracking tasks.

Andy K3UK


Lance Collister, W7GJ
 

I don't know if your model is the same as mine, but here is a mod to enable it to provide a PTT output so you don't have to use VOX: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj/FT857ptt.htm

GL and VY 73, Lance

On 4/10/2021 16:23:04, Ron Schunk wrote:
Hi...here are my setting for my 857 to the U5 interface box. It took me a LONG time messing with everything to get this to work..hope it helps..
Regards
Ron WA8KQF.

*FT 857 Settings for FT8 Digital*

General

Tool Bar       Mode FT8    Decode Deep

  Display

         x Blank line between decoding periods

         x Display distance in miles

         x Tx messages to Rx frequency window

         x Show DXCC grid and worked before status

  Behaviour

         x Disable Tx after sending 73

         x Calling CQ forces Call 1^st

Radio Rig FT857            Poll Iterval 1s

   CAT control

         X COM3 Serial Port (check status with Device Manager)

         X 4800 Baud rate

         X 8 Data Bits

         X 1 Stop Bit

         X None Handshake

                   X Blank DTA  x Blank RTS

         X VOX    PTT Method

                   X Port COM3

         X Front/Mic Transmit Audio Source

         X USB Mode

         X None Split Operation

Audio

   Input

         Default

         Realtek

         X USB Audio (mono)

  Output

         Default

         Realtek

         X USB Audio (mono)

Save Directory:

AzEL Directory: c:/Users/Ron/AppData/Local/WSJT-Xc:/Users/Ron/AppData/Local/WSHT-x/save

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Reporting

         x Enable PSK Reporter Spotting

         Frequencies FT8 7.074

Advanced                                                                                                       1 of 2

         x Two-pass decoding

         6 Random erasure patterns

         0 Aggressive Decoding level

         0.0db Degrade S/N of .wav file

         2500 Receiver bandwidth

1.2sec Tx Delay

Waterfall Wide Graph

Low sidelobes Waterfall spectra

Bins/Pixel 2  Start 200Hz Pallete   x Flatten           Spec 25%

                     N Avg 5        Digipan

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On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 11:28 AM A. J. Castelli <kj4joa@... <mailto:kj4joa@...>> wrote:

Thanks for the rapid response, Andy. The only thing that comes close to being
able to set anything is the computer sound card. There isn't anything that can
be selected from the interface. My audio is still coming from the rig. This
radio and interface were used several years ago for PSK-31 operations and it
worked flawlessly (I was using windows Vista then, on an old PC).Â


A. J. CastelliÂ
KJ4JOA
General Class Operator
AEMT




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On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 9:45 AM Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...
<mailto:k3ukandy@...>> wrote:

What audio path are you specifying within WSJTX ?  Usually "no waterfall"
is related to the importance of setting WSJTX to the source of your radio's
signals.  Inder recommended procedures, you would not normally use a path
to your Realtex sound card unless you patched audio from the radio to the
input of your soundcard.  This is discouraged.

Andy K3UKÂ






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locked Re: Changing PC #WSJTX_config

Dave Garber
 

Export only ft8 ft4 contacts and whatever other wsjt modes to an adi file and rename it and set it in the wsjt folder.    Also rescanning your lig using jtalert will also give you worked b4 etc.

On Fri., Apr. 9, 2021, 12:01 p.m. Dr Neil A Mallett via groups.io, <namallett=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Just as an aside, my tablet pc had a meltdown and had to be reset. With that I lost all my WSJT-X data. My HRD data is always backed up to Dropbox. With that in mind, I shall in future also backup the log directory incase of the inevitable microsoft based failure.



locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Dave Garber
 

I dont think wsjt has a way of reading your log. Assuming you are using one.  Jtalert reads your log then colors wdjt to have you see it


On Sat., Apr. 10, 2021, 1:55 p.m. Phil Hazelton via groups.io, <philhazelton=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Just wondering why there isn’t a worked before colour in wsjtx ? I’m no programmer but I would have thought it would be an easy thing to include in WSJT X?
> On 10 Apr 2021, at 17:37, Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...> wrote:
>
> I don't think many things "go wrong" with the actual WSJT-X software but I do find that sometimes with JT-Alert and/or Gridtracker , some of their "things" stop working and can be a pain to troubleshoot.  So I tend to just run WSJT-X along with DXLabSuite for logging  and use DXLab Suite to do various tracking tasks.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
>





locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Svein Henriksen
 

Personally I do not like JT Alert at all.
Here is my setup.
Due to the hierarchical nature of the configuration all my worked before are blue but you can change that color as you like.
With this setup you will always see the stations you have worked before. If worked on another band they will come up in a different color configured as you like.

73 de LA3PU Svein

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io <main@WSJTX.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phil Hazelton via groups.io
Sent: lørdag 10. april 2021 18:01
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

How easy is JTAlert-X to set up with WSJT-X? I usually find the more apps you bolt on the more there is to go wrong.
On 10 Apr 2021, at 16:50, Pat N6PAT via groups.io <n6pat@...> wrote:

Use JTAlert-X with WSJT-X. It will provide many features that WSJT-X alone does not including all sorts of color coding, audio and visual alerts for wanted DXCC, States, Calls, Prefixes, Zones, etc.


locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

bruce@wilson.org
 

Phil is correct.  

While there may not be a designated color for Worked B4, the color list CAN BE easily set up to highlight stations that have been worked before.  If at least “New Call” and “CQ in message” are checked, then a station worked before will only match the last test, “CQ in message”, which effectively becomes the Worked B4 color.  I think “Show DXCC, grid and worked-before status” should be checked on the General tab.
  • A typical CQ message acquires the “New Call” color unless another condition like “DXCC” was matched
  • A station worked before acquires the “CQ in message” color, which can be customized
Hope that is helpful.

73
Bruce W4CG



On Apr 10, 2021, at 12:09, Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...> wrote:

I don't think many things "go wrong" with the actual WSJT-X software but I do find that sometimes with JT-Alert and/or Gridtracker , some of their "things" stop working and can be a pain to troubleshoot.  So I tend to just run WSJT-X along with DXLabSuite for logging  and use DXLab Suite to do various tracking tasks.

Andy K3UK 




locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

 

Phil,

 

There is by default a worked before colour, in that it is the default left after worked this DXCC on this band on this mode, through not worked before this band or mode. What’s left is worked before. That is the CQ colour.

 

73 Phil GM3ZZA

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Phil Hazelton via groups.io
Sent: 10 April 2021 18:55
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

 

Just wondering why there isn’t a worked before colour in wsjtx ? I’m no programmer but I would have thought it would be an easy thing to include in WSJT X?

> On 10 Apr 2021, at 17:37, Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...> wrote:

>

> I don't think many things "go wrong" with the actual WSJT-X software but I do find that sometimes with JT-Alert and/or Gridtracker , some of their "things" stop working and can be a pain to troubleshoot.  So I tend to just run WSJT-X along with DXLabSuite for logging  and use DXLab Suite to do various tracking tasks.

>

> Andy K3UK

>

>

 

 


--
73 Phil GM3ZZA


locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Bob G8HGN
 

Hi,

There isn't a "worked before" button per se, but if you arrange your colours correctly it will effectively give you that. See attached screengrabs of my simple set up to allow that.

You order the colours by importance, to you, from the top down. you must tick the box alongside to make that colour active. You can can the dolours to siut your needs.

Once set up, a call you have not woked before will show, in my case, as Light blue.

If you have worked that station before, again in my case, it will appear as Pale yellow. This only applies to CQ calls though.

If a station you haven't worked before is working another station, the colour will not show.

In the other screengrab is an example of the colours allowing you to see New DXCC in Purple(DS4EOI or HL3GOB), a new Grid in Pink(JA6WJL), and CQ's from stations I have worked before in Pale yellow(OH3OJ).

There are no CQ's in Light blue,as althought DS4EOI, HL3GOB & JA6JWL are all new calls, DXCC & Grid are set as higher priority than a new call in the list of colours.

Anything other than a CQ will show as White.

This simple set up is adequate for my needs. Other programs can give you more features, such as JT Alert and those mentioned in previous posts.

It does take a few minutes to understand initially, but once done works well.

HTH 73 Bob G8HGN


On 10/04/2021 18:43, Phil Hazelton via groups.io wrote:

Just wondering why there isn’t a worked before colour in wsjtx ? I’m no programmer but I would have thought it would be an easy thing to include in WSJT X?
On 10 Apr 2021, at 17:37, Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...> wrote:

I don't think many things "go wrong" with the actual WSJT-X software but I do find that sometimes with JT-Alert and/or Gridtracker , some of their "things" stop working and can be a pain to troubleshoot.  So I tend to just run WSJT-X along with DXLabSuite for logging  and use DXLab Suite to do various tracking tasks.

Andy K3UK



      



locked FT8 deep decode speed on Pi 4B #FT8

Bruce KX4AZ
 

I've been trying out WSJT-x with FT8 recently, running the latest full release on a Pi 4B w/4GB memory, 32GB microSD card, and I notice that on a crowded band (e.g. 20m in the afternoon, >35 stations), the final set of deep decodes will roll out as long as five seconds into the next 15s slot.  Is this a typical decode speed for WSJT-x running on a Pi 4B?  .  On my Windows 10 desktop the deep decodes don't spill over more than a second or so.  I'm assuming this just reflects the more limited processing power of the Pi. Not really an issue but I just wanted to confirm my performance is typical.


locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Joe Subich, W4TV
 

On 2021-04-10 1:43 PM, Phil Hazelton via groups.io wrote:
I’m no programmer but I would have thought it would be an easy thing to include in WSJT X?
That you are not a programmer answers your own question. WSJTX can
maintain a database of each country, grid and zone for the current
colors. Add "worked B4" for every callsign (and band and supported
mode) and you now have a database that is unbounded.

There is a substantial difference between tracking a limited number
of objects and tracking every QSO.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-04-10 1:43 PM, Phil Hazelton via groups.io wrote:
Just wondering why there isn’t a worked before colour in wsjtx ? I’m no programmer but I would have thought it would be an easy thing to include in WSJT X?


A. J. Castelli <kj4joa@...>
 

Thanks Ron,
I'll try those settings and see what happens. It's a step in the right direction.

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021, 12:06 Bill Somerville <g4wjs@...> wrote:
On 10/04/2021 17:23, Ron Schunk wrote:
> Hi...here are my setting for my 857 to the U5 interface box. It took
> me a LONG time messing with everything to get this to work..hope it
> helps..
> Regards
> Ron WA8KQF.

Ron,

why are you using VOX for the WSJT-X PTT Method? How do yo key your rig?

73
Bill
G4WJS.





locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Bob Lewis
 

The worked before color is the CQ in message color. It is the default that will be displayed unless one of the other conditions (like new call on band) takes precedence.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Phil Hazelton via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 1:43 PM
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Just wondering why there isn’t a worked before colour in wsjtx ? I’m no programmer but I would have thought it would be an easy thing to include in WSJT X?
On 10 Apr 2021, at 17:37, Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...> wrote:

I don't think many things "go wrong" with the actual WSJT-X software but I do find that sometimes with JT-Alert and/or Gridtracker , some of their "things" stop working and can be a pain to troubleshoot. So I tend to just run WSJT-X along with DXLabSuite for logging and use DXLab Suite to do various tracking tasks.

Andy K3UK


locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Pat N6PAT
 

JTAlert-X is very easy to set up and use. With my Flex 6700 I usually monitor 6 bands at the same time for FT8 with 6 instances of WSJT-X and JTAlert-X as well and it works great.

You can configure JTAlert-X for many different types of alerts and functions. If you want it will tell you visually and audibly if you've worked a call before which is what you asked about.  It's the perfect companion to WSJT-X. It even has a text window so you can communicate with other users if they are using JTAlert-X and are on line.

Go to the JTAlert-X site hamapps.com/ and you will find all the install instructions. It only takes a few minutes to install.


locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Bob Lewis
 

I set “cq in message” to black on red and “new call on band” to black on green.

 

The system is that “cq in message” color takes priority unless “new call on band” or one of the other color settings takes priority. Thus, if I see a CQ with a red background that means STOP, don’t answer him because I’ve already worked him on that band. If I see a CQ with a green background that means GO ahead and call him because I’ve never worked him on that band.

 

 

From: main@WSJTX.groups.io [mailto:main@WSJTX.groups.io] On Behalf Of Phil Hazelton via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@WSJTX.groups.io
Subject: [WSJTX] #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

 

OK, so, if there’s  no way of colour highlighting a station I’ve worked before on the decodes, how do I know how to not work him again, and again, and again........... ?
Phil
G8PJH


locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Bill Somerville
 

Phil,

do you mean call worked before, or DXCC Entity worked before, or CQ Zone worked before, or grid worked before, ... I fail to understand why some can't grasp the concept that if there is highlighting for a new call then absence of that highlighting must mean worked before. Why would anyone want to highlight calls they don't want to work?

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 10/04/2021 18:43, Phil Hazelton via groups.io wrote:

Just wondering why there isn’t a worked before colour in wsjtx ? I’m no programmer but I would have thought it would be an easy thing to include in WSJT X?
On 10 Apr 2021, at 17:37, Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...> wrote:

I don't think many things "go wrong" with the actual WSJT-X software but I do find that sometimes with JT-Alert and/or Gridtracker , some of their "things" stop working and can be a pain to troubleshoot.  So I tend to just run WSJT-X along with DXLabSuite for logging  and use DXLab Suite to do various tracking tasks.

Andy K3UK



locked Re: #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo #FT8 #GeneralGroupInfo

Joe Martellaro
 

Stations I have worked before are green in WSJTX.

Joe
"Make Every Day Count"

On Apr 10, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Phil Hazelton via groups.io <philhazelton@...> wrote:

Just wondering why there isn’t a worked before colour in wsjtx ? I’m no programmer but I would have thought it would be an easy thing to include in WSJT X?
On 10 Apr 2021, at 17:37, Andrew OBrien <k3ukandy@...> wrote:

I don't think many things "go wrong" with the actual WSJT-X software but I do find that sometimes with JT-Alert and/or Gridtracker , some of their "things" stop working and can be a pain to troubleshoot. So I tend to just run WSJT-X along with DXLabSuite for logging and use DXLab Suite to do various tracking tasks.

Andy K3UK



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