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Re: Hamlib error on ft991.
Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...>
I've experienced several ham applications that do not exit
cleanly. Some may not release a COM port, while others may not
release CAT control. I always stress to be sure and close the
program correctly. Thus use FILE and EXIT, CLOSE or QUIT
depending on how it is defined.
I will say I have not had an incident with WSJT-X current
release. I've two different brands/models of radios which I
use.
As to HRD, I've had issues with that application not making a
proper or clean exit with one brand/model of radio. That appears
to be in the USB communications between the computer application
and the radio. Who is to blame? Dang if I know. Neither
company wants to accept responsibility and says it is the other
company's fault. Translation: They have my money and don't
care.
73
Bob, K4TAX
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On 12/25/2020 8:33 PM, neil_zampella
wrote:
Did the previous program release the COM port? That may be
the issue. I'd shut everything down, restart the computer (do
not shut down as it actually does a hibernation save of the
current state) and see if it still happens.
Neil, KN3ILZ
[Edited Message Follows]
Merry Christmas. I recently loaded MMSSTV to receive the ISS. I
also used the RT systems to safe the memories. All seemed fine
but now WSJT is reporting a Hamlib error. Tried everything
(obviously not) so does anyone have any ideas? This has been
working fine until today.
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...>
As to time servers, I've not found Windows 10 system for time to
be satisfactory. I've installed and use Meinberg NTP. Works
great and I don't find that Windows updates to disable the
service. Just be sure and disable the Windows time system when
you install Meinberg NTP. As to Dimension 4, that works quite
well and is probably easier to install than Meinberg. Both are
FREE which is the best part. I find that Meinberg does ping the
computer and then adjusts for net delays.
73
Bob, K4TAX
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On 12/25/2020 8:10 PM, MARTIN LAMPNER
wrote:
Good point, may consider but think adjusting the time server
polling will take care of this. More after I try.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Robert Lorenzini
< bob@...> wrote:
And he could use a cheap USB GPS dongle and
BKTtimesync or similar.
Bob - wd6dod
On 12/25/2020 5:18 PM, john
ni0k wrote:
There is a
way to accomplish release of the port without
rebooting. Open Device Manager, right-click the proper
port and select Disable. Right-click again and select
Enable. Ignore any message about rebooting.
MARTIN LAMPNER wrote on 12/25/2020 6:36
PM:
Chris, I found that once an app has used the Com
Port via USB, even if you exit the program it does
not always release the Com Port. The error is
telling you the port i not available. The fix while
a nuisance is unfortunately to reboot the machine if
this is what is causing it. My guess is RT did not
disconnect from the USB connection on exit. A reboot
cures that.
Dan nothing to apologize about. Yes
the 991A and I assume the 991 actually opens to
com ports via the USB cable. When using HRD’s Rig
control as the “radio” in WSJT you get a choice
PPT called CAT and I assume that it instructs WSJT
to use the second port for sound. I do know the
audio is getting to WSJT as the audio meter on the
left of the screen show level and responds if I
raise or lower the volume on the 991A.
I’m actually using the NIST.GOV clock as my
time server, assuming the time.is website is
accurate then my clock in the PC is accurate to
within 7/10s of a second so I am fairly confident
time sync is good. I could improve on it. Windows
10 calls the time server once a day, but you can
edit the Registry and instruct it to do it more
frequently. I’m always hesitant to mess in the
registry but if I wanted to improve the accuracy
of time keeping having it do it four times a day
but I don’t think that is going to be needed. I
know my PC calls for time at 9:38PM and resets
then. If when I checked it about half an hour ago
it was only 7 10ths behind It should be no more
than .085 behind at reset.
I do have some concern about how good
Time.Is is just because the net itself can induce
time loss. Not sure how it compensates for that.
As I mentioned I really loved my old radio based
time check system but it was when I had the
company buy it about $800. But it theoretically
was going to be off by know more than .001 seconds
from WWV, anywhere in North America and less than
that most places.
Still struggling with getting this to
work right but one thing being retired and being
careful about COVID is provide time to play with
this.
sorry
I misspoke, I thought from reading the
specs of the 991 that an SCU17 was
required. Reading it again, the SCU17 is
integrated into the unit.
Perhaps then
also probably gives HRD the ability to
adjust the SCU17?
My
apologies
Dan
KC2STA
On Fri,
Dec 25, 2020 at 6:19 PM Mike Koralewski
K8VA < k8va@...>
wrote:
I
disagree.. It is perfectly "best" to use
the direct USB on the rig, to USB on the
computer technique on the FT991a. There
is absolutely no reason to use an
external sound card, unless you want to
add more complication to an already
complicated situation.
Additionally, the Mienberg
NTP time synchro is another over
complicated program... I used it for a
time, but after a contentious "
Microsoft Update Tuesday" a couple of
months ago, I ran into continuous
off-synch issues.. Deleting Mienberg
and downloading and installing
Dimention 4 solved that issue... D4 is
old program but it is very easy to
install and setup. No issues anymore.
Yes, it was very good advise to set
the bandwidth to Maximum on the
Ft991a.
73 and Happy Holiday...
MIKE K8VA
--
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SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX
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Re: Hamlib error on ft991.
Did the previous program release the COM port? That may be the
issue. I'd shut everything down, restart the computer (do not
shut down as it actually does a hibernation save of the current
state) and see if it still happens.
Neil, KN3ILZ
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Merry Christmas. I recently loaded MMSSTV to receive the ISS. I
also used the RT systems to safe the memories. All seemed fine but
now WSJT is reporting a Hamlib error. Tried everything (obviously
not) so does anyone have any ideas? This has been working fine
until today.
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Good point, may consider but think adjusting the time server polling will take care of this. More after I try.
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On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Robert Lorenzini < bob@...> wrote:
And he could use a cheap USB GPS dongle and BKTtimesync or similar.
Bob - wd6dod
On 12/25/2020 5:18 PM, john ni0k wrote:
There is a way to accomplish
release of the port without rebooting. Open Device Manager,
right-click the proper port and select Disable. Right-click
again and select Enable. Ignore any message about rebooting.
MARTIN LAMPNER wrote on 12/25/2020 6:36 PM:
Chris, I found that once an app has used the Com Port via USB,
even if you exit the program it does not always release the
Com Port. The error is telling you the port i not available.
The fix while a nuisance is unfortunately to reboot the
machine if this is what is causing it. My guess is RT did not
disconnect from the USB connection on exit. A reboot cures
that.
Dan nothing to apologize about. Yes the 991A and
I assume the 991 actually opens to com ports via the USB
cable. When using HRD’s Rig control as the “radio” in WSJT
you get a choice PPT called CAT and I assume that it
instructs WSJT to use the second port for sound. I do know
the audio is getting to WSJT as the audio meter on the left
of the screen show level and responds if I raise or lower
the volume on the 991A.
I’m actually using the NIST.GOV clock
as my time server, assuming the time.is website is
accurate then my clock in the PC is accurate to within 7/10s
of a second so I am fairly confident time sync is good. I
could improve on it. Windows 10 calls the time server once a
day, but you can edit the Registry and instruct it to do it
more frequently. I’m always hesitant to mess in the registry
but if I wanted to improve the accuracy of time keeping
having it do it four times a day but I don’t think that is
going to be needed. I know my PC calls for time at 9:38PM
and resets then. If when I checked it about half an hour ago
it was only 7 10ths behind It should be no more than .085
behind at reset.
I do have some concern about how good Time.Is is
just because the net itself can induce time loss. Not sure
how it compensates for that. As I mentioned I really loved
my old radio based time check system but it was when I had
the company buy it about $800. But it theoretically was
going to be off by know more than .001 seconds from WWV,
anywhere in North America and less than that most places.
Still struggling with getting this to work right
but one thing being retired and being careful about COVID is
provide time to play with this.
sorry I
misspoke, I thought from reading the specs of the
991 that an SCU17 was required. Reading it again,
the SCU17 is integrated into the unit.
Perhaps then
also probably gives HRD the ability to adjust the
SCU17?
My
apologies
Dan KC2STA
On Fri, Dec 25,
2020 at 6:19 PM Mike Koralewski K8VA < k8va@...>
wrote:
I disagree.. It
is perfectly "best" to use the direct USB on the
rig, to USB on the computer technique on the
FT991a. There is absolutely no reason to use an
external sound card, unless you want to add more
complication to an already complicated situation.
Additionally, the Mienberg NTP time
synchro is another over complicated program... I
used it for a time, but after a contentious "
Microsoft Update Tuesday" a couple of months
ago, I ran into continuous off-synch issues..
Deleting Mienberg and downloading and installing
Dimention 4 solved that issue... D4 is old
program but it is very easy to install and
setup. No issues anymore.
Yes, it was very good advise to set the
bandwidth to Maximum on the Ft991a.
73 and Happy Holiday...
MIKE K8VA
--
Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA
SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX
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And he could use a cheap USB GPS dongle and BKTtimesync or similar.
Bob - wd6dod
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On 12/25/2020 5:18 PM, john ni0k wrote:
There is a way to accomplish
release of the port without rebooting. Open Device Manager,
right-click the proper port and select Disable. Right-click
again and select Enable. Ignore any message about rebooting.
MARTIN LAMPNER wrote on 12/25/2020 6:36 PM:
Chris, I found that once an app has used the Com Port via USB,
even if you exit the program it does not always release the
Com Port. The error is telling you the port i not available.
The fix while a nuisance is unfortunately to reboot the
machine if this is what is causing it. My guess is RT did not
disconnect from the USB connection on exit. A reboot cures
that.
Dan nothing to apologize about. Yes the 991A and
I assume the 991 actually opens to com ports via the USB
cable. When using HRD’s Rig control as the “radio” in WSJT
you get a choice PPT called CAT and I assume that it
instructs WSJT to use the second port for sound. I do know
the audio is getting to WSJT as the audio meter on the left
of the screen show level and responds if I raise or lower
the volume on the 991A.
I’m actually using the NIST.GOV clock
as my time server, assuming the time.is website is
accurate then my clock in the PC is accurate to within 7/10s
of a second so I am fairly confident time sync is good. I
could improve on it. Windows 10 calls the time server once a
day, but you can edit the Registry and instruct it to do it
more frequently. I’m always hesitant to mess in the registry
but if I wanted to improve the accuracy of time keeping
having it do it four times a day but I don’t think that is
going to be needed. I know my PC calls for time at 9:38PM
and resets then. If when I checked it about half an hour ago
it was only 7 10ths behind It should be no more than .085
behind at reset.
I do have some concern about how good Time.Is is
just because the net itself can induce time loss. Not sure
how it compensates for that. As I mentioned I really loved
my old radio based time check system but it was when I had
the company buy it about $800. But it theoretically was
going to be off by know more than .001 seconds from WWV,
anywhere in North America and less than that most places.
Still struggling with getting this to work right
but one thing being retired and being careful about COVID is
provide time to play with this.
sorry I
misspoke, I thought from reading the specs of the
991 that an SCU17 was required. Reading it again,
the SCU17 is integrated into the unit.
Perhaps then
also probably gives HRD the ability to adjust the
SCU17?
My
apologies
Dan KC2STA
On Fri, Dec 25,
2020 at 6:19 PM Mike Koralewski K8VA < k8va@...>
wrote:
I disagree.. It
is perfectly "best" to use the direct USB on the
rig, to USB on the computer technique on the
FT991a. There is absolutely no reason to use an
external sound card, unless you want to add more
complication to an already complicated situation.
Additionally, the Mienberg NTP time
synchro is another over complicated program... I
used it for a time, but after a contentious "
Microsoft Update Tuesday" a couple of months
ago, I ran into continuous off-synch issues..
Deleting Mienberg and downloading and installing
Dimention 4 solved that issue... D4 is old
program but it is very easy to install and
setup. No issues anymore.
Yes, it was very good advise to set the
bandwidth to Maximum on the Ft991a.
73 and Happy Holiday...
MIKE K8VA
--
Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA
SKCC #4290T
Ubuntu LINUX
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-----Original Message----- From: k7trkradio@... Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 5:48 PM To: Martin@... Cc: k7trkradio@... Subject: Emailing: 991a HRD setup
Hi Martin, these settings work with an RT Systems cable. Be sure to keep yer DT Gain (alc) low. No need to adjust any sliders in WSJT. Make sure window settings for the sound are correct
Merry 73 Christmas,
Ted - K7TRK
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That’s true would work, but I always wonder at the point you have this kind of issue what else needs a reset and hence I tend to reboot. The big advantage of doing what John suggests is if you had other programs running and didn’t want to to stop them for a restart this would achieve that without having to shut down and restart everything.
I also need to correct something else, I’m used to working with server based systems. Windows 10 and other recent releases of Windows on free standing machines without a domain controller actually will only reset the clock once every seven days. Where there is a domain controller it does it either daily or hourly depending on tolerances. That said going into the registry and changing the value of this item allows you to set what ever time refresh time you want. I missed the first step which is open regedit. 14400 would reset the time every 4 hours. Given the drift in my PC’s clock that means something less than .03 seconds at max drift. Hate changing registry items but guess I will be doing so. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\TimeProviders\NtpClient
- Right click the key SpecialPollInterval and select modify.
- Select Decimal as Base. The default value in the Value data box will be 604800 which is the poll interval in seconds (604800 seconds = 7 days).
- Enter a new value in the Value data box. For example if you want to set the poll interval to one day, enter the 86400.
- Click OK.
- Close registry editor and restart your computer.
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There is a way to accomplish release of
the port without rebooting. Open Device Manager, right-click the proper
port and select Disable. Right-click again and select Enable. Ignore any
message about rebooting. MARTIN LAMPNER wrote on 12/25/2020 6:36 PM:
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Chris, I found that once an app has used the Com Port via
USB, even if you exit the program it does not always release the Com
Port. The error is telling you the port i not available. The fix while a
nuisance is unfortunately to reboot the machine if this is what is
causing it. My guess is RT did not disconnect from the USB connection on
exit. A reboot cures that.
Dan nothing to apologize about. Yes the 991A and I assume the
991 actually opens to com ports via the USB cable. When using HRD’s Rig
control as the “radio” in WSJT you get a choice PPT called CAT and I
assume that it instructs WSJT to use the second port for sound. I do
know the audio is getting to WSJT as the audio meter on the left of the
screen show level and responds if I raise or lower the volume on the
991A.
I’m actually
using the NIST.GOV clock
as my time server, assuming the time.is website is accurate then my clock in
the PC is accurate to within 7/10s of a second so I am fairly confident
time sync is good. I could improve on it. Windows 10 calls the time
server once a day, but you can edit the Registry and instruct it to do
it more frequently. I’m always hesitant to mess in the registry but if I
wanted to improve the accuracy of time keeping having it do it four
times a day but I don’t think that is going to be needed. I know my PC
calls for time at 9:38PM and resets then. If when I checked it about
half an hour ago it was only 7 10ths behind It should be no more than
.085 behind at reset.
I do have some concern about how good Time.Is is just because
the net itself can induce time loss. Not sure how it compensates for
that. As I mentioned I really loved my old radio based time check system
but it was when I had the company buy it about $800. But it
theoretically was going to be off by know more than .001 seconds from
WWV, anywhere in North America and less than that most places.
Still struggling with getting
this to work right but one thing being retired and being careful about
COVID is provide time to play with this.
sorry I
misspoke, I thought from reading the specs of the 991 that an SCU17 was
required. Reading it again, the SCU17 is integrated into the unit.
Perhaps then also probably gives
HRD the ability to adjust the SCU17?
My
apologies
Dan KC2STA On
Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 6:19 PM Mike Koralewski K8VA < k8va@...>
wrote: I disagree.. It is perfectly "best"
to use the direct USB on the rig, to USB on the computer technique on
the FT991a. There is absolutely no reason to use an external sound card,
unless you want to add more complication to an already complicated
situation.
Additionally, the Mienberg NTP time synchro is another
over complicated program... I used it for a time, but after a
contentious " Microsoft Update Tuesday" a couple of months ago, I ran
into continuous off-synch issues.. Deleting Mienberg and downloading and
installing Dimention 4 solved that issue... D4 is old program but it is
very easy to install and setup. No issues anymore. Yes, it
was very good advise to set the bandwidth to Maximum on the Ft991a. 73 and Happy Holiday... MIKE K8VA
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Chris, I found that once an app has used the Com Port via USB, even if you exit the program it does not always release the Com Port. The error is telling you the port i not available. The fix while a nuisance is unfortunately to reboot the machine if this is what is causing it. My guess is RT did not disconnect from the USB connection on exit. A reboot cures that.
Dan nothing to apologize about. Yes the 991A and I assume the 991 actually opens to com ports via the USB cable. When using HRD’s Rig control as the “radio” in WSJT you get a choice PPT called CAT and I assume that it instructs WSJT to use the second port for sound. I do know the audio is getting to WSJT as the audio meter on the left of the screen show level and responds if I raise or lower the volume on the 991A.
I’m actually using the NIST.GOV clock as my time server, assuming the time.is website is accurate then my clock in the PC is accurate to within 7/10s of a second so I am fairly confident time sync is good. I could improve on it. Windows 10 calls the time server once a day, but you can edit the Registry and instruct it to do it more frequently. I’m always hesitant to mess in the registry but if I wanted to improve the accuracy of time keeping having it do it four times a day but I don’t think that is going to be needed. I know my PC calls for time at 9:38PM and resets then. If when I checked it about half an hour ago it was only 7 10ths behind It should be no more than .085 behind at reset.
I do have some concern about how good Time.Is is just because the net itself can induce time loss. Not sure how it compensates for that. As I mentioned I really loved my old radio based time check system but it was when I had the company buy it about $800. But it theoretically was going to be off by know more than .001 seconds from WWV, anywhere in North America and less than that most places.
Still struggling with getting this to work right but one thing being retired and being careful about COVID is provide time to play with this.
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sorry I misspoke, I thought from reading the specs of the 991 that an SCU17 was required. Reading it again, the SCU17 is integrated into the unit.
Perhaps then also probably gives HRD the ability to adjust the SCU17?
My apologies
Dan KC2STA On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 6:19 PM Mike Koralewski K8VA < k8va@...> wrote: I disagree.. It is perfectly "best" to use the direct USB on the rig, to USB on the computer technique on the FT991a. There is absolutely no reason to use an external sound card, unless you want to add more complication to an already complicated situation.
Additionally, the Mienberg NTP time synchro is another over complicated program... I used it for a time, but after a contentious " Microsoft Update Tuesday" a couple of months ago, I ran into continuous off-synch issues.. Deleting Mienberg and downloading and installing Dimention 4 solved that issue... D4 is old program but it is very easy to install and setup. No issues anymore. Yes, it was very good advise to set the bandwidth to Maximum on the Ft991a. 73 and Happy Holiday... MIKE K8VA
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sorry I misspoke, I thought from reading the specs of the 991 that an SCU17 was required. Reading it again, the SCU17 is integrated into the unit.
Perhaps then also probably gives HRD the ability to adjust the SCU17?
My apologies
Dan KC2STA
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On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 6:19 PM Mike Koralewski K8VA < k8va@...> wrote: I disagree.. It is perfectly "best" to use the direct USB on the rig, to USB on the computer technique on the FT991a. There is absolutely no reason to use an external sound card, unless you want to add more complication to an already complicated situation.
Additionally, the Mienberg NTP time synchro is another over complicated program... I used it for a time, but after a contentious " Microsoft Update Tuesday" a couple of months ago, I ran into continuous off-synch issues.. Deleting Mienberg and downloading and installing Dimention 4 solved that issue... D4 is old program but it is very easy to install and setup. No issues anymore. Yes, it was very good advise to set the bandwidth to Maximum on the Ft991a. 73 and Happy Holiday... MIKE K8VA
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Merry Christmas. I recently loaded MMSSTV to receive the ISS. I also used the RT systems to safe the memories. All seemed fine but now WSJT is reporting a Hamlib error. Tried everything (obviously not) so does anyone have any ideas? This has been working fine until today.
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Mike Koralewski K8VA
I disagree.. It is perfectly "best" to use the direct USB on the rig, to USB on the computer technique on the FT991a. There is absolutely no reason to use an external sound card, unless you want to add more complication to an already complicated situation.
Additionally, the Mienberg NTP time synchro is another over complicated program... I used it for a time, but after a contentious " Microsoft Update Tuesday" a couple of months ago, I ran into continuous off-synch issues.. Deleting Mienberg and downloading and installing Dimention 4 solved that issue... D4 is old program but it is very easy to install and setup. No issues anymore. Yes, it was very good advise to set the bandwidth to Maximum on the Ft991a. 73 and Happy Holiday... MIKE K8VA
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...>
The Time.IS App only compares one’s computer clock to a time standard. My iPhone just compared as 0.044 seconds fast. It does not correct computer settings.
I use Meinberg NTP to maintain computer clock accuracy.
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On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw@...> wrote:
Interesting regarding HRD. I use a single USB cable between my radio and my computer to operate AFSK, PSK-31 and CW. Two of these are audio modes and CAT control. All at the same time too. On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:18 PM, d_ziolkowski <dan.ziolkowski@...> wrote:
Marty-
HRD gives you CAT control, but has nothing to do with the audio.
Dan KC2STA
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 2:57 PM MARTIN LAMPNER < Martin@...> wrote: Thanks Dan,
I am actually connecting via a USB cable with appropriate chokes on both ends rather than sound cards and HRD which also uses that connection seems to be fine with it. I did decide since one of the radios choices is HRD to use it in place of the actual radio and it tests fine.
As to time I am fairly sure I’m within the 1 second window. I used to have a radio receiver that could be plugged into the PC that would tune WWV and had software that could compare the system clock to it unfortunately it was my employer’s and it stayed with them when I retired. We needed it as we had networks in three states that had to maintain sync for certain functions. In the absence of that I made the changes suggested to WIN10, going to NIST rather than the Microsoft time server and while I can only check by ear I did tune WWV and watched and my computer is clicking over the minute so close to tone that it is easily in the 1 second even allowing for the 10 milsec delay between transmitter so I don’t think its time and in any case I doubt it would be what is preventing the transmit to work.
If I can’t figure this out I will go back to a direct connection with HRD down but the problem with that is it would mean reconfiguring HRD to either work with these parameters or alternatively reconfigure the radio each time I want to use the other setup.
Hope you are having a great holiday, 73 KC3PZX.
Martin- with any WSJT mode time accuracy of the pc is critical. YOu need to install a time sync program, I use Meinberg NTP.
One thing to do is get FT8 working first, before WSPR. FT8 has very short time cycles, as opposed to waiting 2 mins for the wspr cycle.
Do you have your sound card properly selected in WSJTx?
what audio interface are you using? I use a Signalink. it is best to use a 2nd sound card, not the built in one.
when you look at the WSJTx display do you see audio activity on the lower left of the display?
in the waterfall do you see signals in the wspr bandwidth?
make sure the receiver is set for max bandwidth and USB data mode.
Hope that helps
Dan KC2STA
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 4:42 PM MARTIN LAMPNER < Martin@...> wrote: My thanks for allowing me to join the WSJT-X group. I am a freshly minted General license holder, with at this moment in time about 8 weeks of operation behind me. I held a Novice license in the mid 1960s but never took it further than that - girls and cars distracted me from the hobby.
In rejoining the hobby I am excited about learning more about the various digital modes. I’m interested initially in Whspr as I have built several antennas and it would seem to offer a good way to see how they perform and how various tweaks will help them.
I know I will be asking many questions no doubt asked and answered before so I apologize for taking folks time on things that may be common knowledge.
I do have two questions but first let me share my setup as that could have some bearing on my questions. I am running a Yeasu FT 991A. I built two antennas, one for the HF 20 meter band, a ground mounted vertical, with roughly 20 or so radials. On the VHF/UHF side I have built a vertical mounted about 14 feet up. Both seem to be performing fairly well but as I say I am interested in seeing how far they can reach.
So to the questions: I am located in Delaware in the USA near the Atlantic Coast, about 3 miles from the coast line. I have run wsjt in Whspr mode twice now with no inbound contacts. I did look at the real time map and saw a station located about 15 miles from me had five contacts. Am I being impatient? I let it run about an hour one time and about an hour and a half the second time. What is a reasonably amount of time to expect to see inbound contacts?
Second Question when I click on Transmit it will not stay lit. When i did the setup and tested push to talk it worked fine but in an active session it lights for a second then goes back to white? Any ideas on what’s wrong?
Again my apologies for taking the group’s time with what I expect are fairly rudimentary questions.
Merry Christmas to all and best wishes,
KC3PZX - Marty 73.
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...>
Interesting regarding HRD. I use a single USB cable between my radio and my computer to operate AFSK, PSK-31 and CW. Two of these are audio modes and CAT control. All at the same time too.
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On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:18 PM, d_ziolkowski <dan.ziolkowski@...> wrote:
Marty-
HRD gives you CAT control, but has nothing to do with the audio.
Dan KC2STA
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 2:57 PM MARTIN LAMPNER < Martin@...> wrote: Thanks Dan,
I am actually connecting via a USB cable with appropriate chokes on both ends rather than sound cards and HRD which also uses that connection seems to be fine with it. I did decide since one of the radios choices is HRD to use it in place of the actual radio and it tests fine.
As to time I am fairly sure I’m within the 1 second window. I used to have a radio receiver that could be plugged into the PC that would tune WWV and had software that could compare the system clock to it unfortunately it was my employer’s and it stayed with them when I retired. We needed it as we had networks in three states that had to maintain sync for certain functions. In the absence of that I made the changes suggested to WIN10, going to NIST rather than the Microsoft time server and while I can only check by ear I did tune WWV and watched and my computer is clicking over the minute so close to tone that it is easily in the 1 second even allowing for the 10 milsec delay between transmitter so I don’t think its time and in any case I doubt it would be what is preventing the transmit to work.
If I can’t figure this out I will go back to a direct connection with HRD down but the problem with that is it would mean reconfiguring HRD to either work with these parameters or alternatively reconfigure the radio each time I want to use the other setup.
Hope you are having a great holiday, 73 KC3PZX.
Martin- with any WSJT mode time accuracy of the pc is critical. YOu need to install a time sync program, I use Meinberg NTP.
One thing to do is get FT8 working first, before WSPR. FT8 has very short time cycles, as opposed to waiting 2 mins for the wspr cycle.
Do you have your sound card properly selected in WSJTx?
what audio interface are you using? I use a Signalink. it is best to use a 2nd sound card, not the built in one.
when you look at the WSJTx display do you see audio activity on the lower left of the display?
in the waterfall do you see signals in the wspr bandwidth?
make sure the receiver is set for max bandwidth and USB data mode.
Hope that helps
Dan KC2STA
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 4:42 PM MARTIN LAMPNER < Martin@...> wrote: My thanks for allowing me to join the WSJT-X group. I am a freshly minted General license holder, with at this moment in time about 8 weeks of operation behind me. I held a Novice license in the mid 1960s but never took it further than that - girls and cars distracted me from the hobby.
In rejoining the hobby I am excited about learning more about the various digital modes. I’m interested initially in Whspr as I have built several antennas and it would seem to offer a good way to see how they perform and how various tweaks will help them.
I know I will be asking many questions no doubt asked and answered before so I apologize for taking folks time on things that may be common knowledge.
I do have two questions but first let me share my setup as that could have some bearing on my questions. I am running a Yeasu FT 991A. I built two antennas, one for the HF 20 meter band, a ground mounted vertical, with roughly 20 or so radials. On the VHF/UHF side I have built a vertical mounted about 14 feet up. Both seem to be performing fairly well but as I say I am interested in seeing how far they can reach.
So to the questions: I am located in Delaware in the USA near the Atlantic Coast, about 3 miles from the coast line. I have run wsjt in Whspr mode twice now with no inbound contacts. I did look at the real time map and saw a station located about 15 miles from me had five contacts. Am I being impatient? I let it run about an hour one time and about an hour and a half the second time. What is a reasonably amount of time to expect to see inbound contacts?
Second Question when I click on Transmit it will not stay lit. When i did the setup and tested push to talk it worked fine but in an active session it lights for a second then goes back to white? Any ideas on what’s wrong?
Again my apologies for taking the group’s time with what I expect are fairly rudimentary questions.
Merry Christmas to all and best wishes,
KC3PZX - Marty 73.
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
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Mike Koralewski K8VA
It's the old "double click" problem... Set your Windows mouse action to single click to initiate apps.... And only click once..... I had the same issue for the longest time, until someone on the reflector clued me into the resolution.... My startup NEVER gives me the "another instance" or "fatal error" anymore... Try it... 73 Mike K8VA.
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Marty-
HRD gives you CAT control, but has nothing to do with the audio.
Dan KC2STA
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On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 2:57 PM MARTIN LAMPNER < Martin@...> wrote: Thanks Dan,
I am actually connecting via a USB cable with appropriate chokes on both ends rather than sound cards and HRD which also uses that connection seems to be fine with it. I did decide since one of the radios choices is HRD to use it in place of the actual radio and it tests fine.
As to time I am fairly sure I’m within the 1 second window. I used to have a radio receiver that could be plugged into the PC that would tune WWV and had software that could compare the system clock to it unfortunately it was my employer’s and it stayed with them when I retired. We needed it as we had networks in three states that had to maintain sync for certain functions. In the absence of that I made the changes suggested to WIN10, going to NIST rather than the Microsoft time server and while I can only check by ear I did tune WWV and watched and my computer is clicking over the minute so close to tone that it is easily in the 1 second even allowing for the 10 milsec delay between transmitter so I don’t think its time and in any case I doubt it would be what is preventing the transmit to work.
If I can’t figure this out I will go back to a direct connection with HRD down but the problem with that is it would mean reconfiguring HRD to either work with these parameters or alternatively reconfigure the radio each time I want to use the other setup.
Hope you are having a great holiday, 73 KC3PZX.
Martin- with any WSJT mode time accuracy of the pc is critical. YOu need to install a time sync program, I use Meinberg NTP.
One thing to do is get FT8 working first, before WSPR. FT8 has very short time cycles, as opposed to waiting 2 mins for the wspr cycle.
Do you have your sound card properly selected in WSJTx?
what audio interface are you using? I use a Signalink. it is best to use a 2nd sound card, not the built in one.
when you look at the WSJTx display do you see audio activity on the lower left of the display?
in the waterfall do you see signals in the wspr bandwidth?
make sure the receiver is set for max bandwidth and USB data mode.
Hope that helps
Dan KC2STA
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 4:42 PM MARTIN LAMPNER < Martin@...> wrote: My thanks for allowing me to join the WSJT-X group. I am a freshly minted General license holder, with at this moment in time about 8 weeks of operation behind me. I held a Novice license in the mid 1960s but never took it further than that - girls and cars distracted me from the hobby.
In rejoining the hobby I am excited about learning more about the various digital modes. I’m interested initially in Whspr as I have built several antennas and it would seem to offer a good way to see how they perform and how various tweaks will help them.
I know I will be asking many questions no doubt asked and answered before so I apologize for taking folks time on things that may be common knowledge.
I do have two questions but first let me share my setup as that could have some bearing on my questions. I am running a Yeasu FT 991A. I built two antennas, one for the HF 20 meter band, a ground mounted vertical, with roughly 20 or so radials. On the VHF/UHF side I have built a vertical mounted about 14 feet up. Both seem to be performing fairly well but as I say I am interested in seeing how far they can reach.
So to the questions: I am located in Delaware in the USA near the Atlantic Coast, about 3 miles from the coast line. I have run wsjt in Whspr mode twice now with no inbound contacts. I did look at the real time map and saw a station located about 15 miles from me had five contacts. Am I being impatient? I let it run about an hour one time and about an hour and a half the second time. What is a reasonably amount of time to expect to see inbound contacts?
Second Question when I click on Transmit it will not stay lit. When i did the setup and tested push to talk it worked fine but in an active session it lights for a second then goes back to white? Any ideas on what’s wrong?
Again my apologies for taking the group’s time with what I expect are fairly rudimentary questions.
Merry Christmas to all and best wishes,
KC3PZX - Marty 73.
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
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Re: My Thanks and some comments on suggestions
Head to the website time.is, it will show you the difference
between actual time and your computer's time. It does not do any
reset of the time, which is why the WSJT-X Windows installation
instructions advise to use a time sync program.
Neil, KN3ILZ
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I want to thank everyone for the welcome and the suggestions. I will be exploring all of them. I did realize something last night. I run Ham Radio Deluxe and looking at various things including the manuals for both the two programs at least on paper work well together having presets for each other. I decided this AM to try connecting that way. It does connect and at least while on the radio configuration the test for control and PTT both indicate they are working.
Early on in working with this I was getting an error message, that George Nelson commented on Hamlib error: IO error. I realized when I saw his message what it meant at lest in my case if HRD’s rig control is working it grabs the IO from the USB interface blocking WSJT. I did try with HRD down but was still having issues so I decided to change the configuration and use HRD’s Rig Control as the radio. Doing so as I say does get the tests to work properly and eliminates the IO conflict.
Prior to that when I tried some of the settings folks recommended I found I could get WSJT to do the rig control but was still having issues with the PTT test. The other problem with that is making the various changes in the menu HRD stopped working so I reverted to the defaults and connected through HRD. Doing so I can pass both tests and the radio clearly goes into TX, when doing the PTT test.
I still don’t seem to be getting any incoming messages. Will try the suggestion of using FT8 to see if that behaves differently but also have the problem in both Wshpr and FT8 if I try to enable TX, clicking the button it flashes red for a second but then reverts to off. If I press tune I can see the transmitter light come on and the unit does auto tune so I’m not sure what is going on.
I did check the time on the system against WWV and while I am using just my ears the time seems well within the second tolerance when displaying the seconds. I note in the WSJT info it says Win 10 does have the accuracy needed if certain adjustments are made. I switched from the Microsoft Time Source to NIST and as I say it is at least as far as I can tell without any instruments staying well within the time standard. I considered adjusting the polling rate for checking with NIST but decided not to mess with that as its incredibly close to the received signal when tuned to WWV. I am hesitant to set up NTP, as I have had problems with it and some other software in the past.
Is anyone using WSJT through HRD and if so what if any issues are you experiencing.
Thanks all and hope everyone is enjoying the holiday.
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Thanks Dan,
I am actually connecting via a USB cable with appropriate chokes on both ends rather than sound cards and HRD which also uses that connection seems to be fine with it. I did decide since one of the radios choices is HRD to use it in place of the actual radio and it tests fine.
As to time I am fairly sure I’m within the 1 second window. I used to have a radio receiver that could be plugged into the PC that would tune WWV and had software that could compare the system clock to it unfortunately it was my employer’s and it stayed with them when I retired. We needed it as we had networks in three states that had to maintain sync for certain functions. In the absence of that I made the changes suggested to WIN10, going to NIST rather than the Microsoft time server and while I can only check by ear I did tune WWV and watched and my computer is clicking over the minute so close to tone that it is easily in the 1 second even allowing for the 10 milsec delay between transmitter so I don’t think its time and in any case I doubt it would be what is preventing the transmit to work.
If I can’t figure this out I will go back to a direct connection with HRD down but the problem with that is it would mean reconfiguring HRD to either work with these parameters or alternatively reconfigure the radio each time I want to use the other setup.
Hope you are having a great holiday, 73 KC3PZX.
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Martin- with any WSJT mode time accuracy of the pc is critical. YOu need to install a time sync program, I use Meinberg NTP.
One thing to do is get FT8 working first, before WSPR. FT8 has very short time cycles, as opposed to waiting 2 mins for the wspr cycle.
Do you have your sound card properly selected in WSJTx?
what audio interface are you using? I use a Signalink. it is best to use a 2nd sound card, not the built in one.
when you look at the WSJTx display do you see audio activity on the lower left of the display?
in the waterfall do you see signals in the wspr bandwidth?
make sure the receiver is set for max bandwidth and USB data mode.
Hope that helps
Dan KC2STA
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 4:42 PM MARTIN LAMPNER < Martin@...> wrote: My thanks for allowing me to join the WSJT-X group. I am a freshly minted General license holder, with at this moment in time about 8 weeks of operation behind me. I held a Novice license in the mid 1960s but never took it further than that - girls and cars distracted me from the hobby.
In rejoining the hobby I am excited about learning more about the various digital modes. I’m interested initially in Whspr as I have built several antennas and it would seem to offer a good way to see how they perform and how various tweaks will help them.
I know I will be asking many questions no doubt asked and answered before so I apologize for taking folks time on things that may be common knowledge.
I do have two questions but first let me share my setup as that could have some bearing on my questions. I am running a Yeasu FT 991A. I built two antennas, one for the HF 20 meter band, a ground mounted vertical, with roughly 20 or so radials. On the VHF/UHF side I have built a vertical mounted about 14 feet up. Both seem to be performing fairly well but as I say I am interested in seeing how far they can reach.
So to the questions: I am located in Delaware in the USA near the Atlantic Coast, about 3 miles from the coast line. I have run wsjt in Whspr mode twice now with no inbound contacts. I did look at the real time map and saw a station located about 15 miles from me had five contacts. Am I being impatient? I let it run about an hour one time and about an hour and a half the second time. What is a reasonably amount of time to expect to see inbound contacts?
Second Question when I click on Transmit it will not stay lit. When i did the setup and tested push to talk it worked fine but in an active session it lights for a second then goes back to white? Any ideas on what’s wrong?
Again my apologies for taking the group’s time with what I expect are fairly rudimentary questions.
Merry Christmas to all and best wishes,
KC3PZX - Marty 73.
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
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Agustin - LU2HES
Hi Morgan, Bill
Excellent, this is a good feature.
I managed to integrate my custom Arduino transceiver into WSJTX using this. I wrote a small python server that retrieves the status using the UDP interface and then encodes the TX message and send it to the Arduino using the serial port.
I can believe it's working!
Regards Agustin - LU2HES
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I want to thank everyone for the welcome and the suggestions. I will be exploring all of them. I did realize something last night. I run Ham Radio Deluxe and looking at various things including the manuals for both the two programs at least on paper work well together having presets for each other. I decided this AM to try connecting that way. It does connect and at least while on the radio configuration the test for control and PTT both indicate they are working.
Early on in working with this I was getting an error message, that George Nelson commented on Hamlib error: IO error. I realized when I saw his message what it meant at lest in my case if HRD’s rig control is working it grabs the IO from the USB interface blocking WSJT. I did try with HRD down but was still having issues so I decided to change the configuration and use HRD’s Rig Control as the radio. Doing so as I say does get the tests to work properly and eliminates the IO conflict.
Prior to that when I tried some of the settings folks recommended I found I could get WSJT to do the rig control but was still having issues with the PTT test. The other problem with that is making the various changes in the menu HRD stopped working so I reverted to the defaults and connected through HRD. Doing so I can pass both tests and the radio clearly goes into TX, when doing the PTT test.
I still don’t seem to be getting any incoming messages. Will try the suggestion of using FT8 to see if that behaves differently but also have the problem in both Wshpr and FT8 if I try to enable TX, clicking the button it flashes red for a second but then reverts to off. If I press tune I can see the transmitter light come on and the unit does auto tune so I’m not sure what is going on.
I did check the time on the system against WWV and while I am using just my ears the time seems well within the second tolerance when displaying the seconds. I note in the WSJT info it says Win 10 does have the accuracy needed if certain adjustments are made. I switched from the Microsoft Time Source to NIST and as I say it is at least as far as I can tell without any instruments staying well within the time standard. I considered adjusting the polling rate for checking with NIST but decided not to mess with that as its incredibly close to the received signal when tuned to WWV. I am hesitant to set up NTP, as I have had problems with it and some other software in the past.
Is anyone using WSJT through HRD and if so what if any issues are you experiencing.
Thanks all and hope everyone is enjoying the holiday.
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