Locked Re: Duty cycle question


Frank Donovan
 

Hi Dan,

You can very easily answer your question yourself.

Go into your CONFIG menu and select PA TEMP

Then run your CW vs. FT8 experiment

The results will be identical

73
Frank
W3LPL



From: "d_ziolkowski" <dan.ziolkowski@...>
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:00:27 PM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Duty cycle question

Fellows:

Maybe forget about the duty cycle.

What I'm really asking is how much power is dissipated ie temp rise of finals if I was to run a 50 HZ tone USB. vs a 500 hz tone? Absolute Power level does not matter.

Thanks 

Dan KC2STA


On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 5:31 PM <careyfisher@...> wrote:
You can't talk about Duty Cycle without talking about component temperature. You can run something at 100% duty cycle forever if you can keep the temperature within the ratings of the components.
So, Joe WB9SBD, you can certainly do a 60 minutes On, 60 minutes Off duty cycle if you can keep the components cool.


73, Carey, WB4HXE

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 5:16 PM Frank Donovan <donovanf@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,

FT8 is 100% duty cycle during the entire duration of its 12.6 second transmission.

FT8 is not USB.   Your transceiver is set to USB only so it can translate
the FT8 signal generated by your sound card to selected ham bands.
Think of your transceiver as a mixer with a filter on the output so you
don't get two sidebands from the mixer.

73
Frank
W3LPL


From: "d_ziolkowski" <dan.ziolkowski@...>
To: main@wsjtx.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 8:58:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WSJTX] Duty cycle question

But--- a CW signal is 100% carrier. 

FT8 is USB , little to no carrier.

Think AM vs SSB.

Dan KC2STA



On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 4:29 PM Joe WB9SBD <nss@...> wrote:
How narrow is a dead carrier? a LOT smaller than 50 hz, so how long can your rig like a CW Key be pressed down and held?

Joe WB9SBD

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On 8/13/2020 2:14 PM, d_ziolkowski wrote:
Hello all=

We have all been educated that due to the high duty cycle of FT8, it is wise to not run full power of you rig to avoid burning up the finals. 

My question relates to the effect of the transmitted bandwidth, which in FT8 is 50HZ, has on the actual power loading of the finals. 

Since when transmitting a 50Hz signal via a transmitter capable of about 2Khz or so, would this , in effect , very lightly load the finals, even at full power?

Thanks

Dan KC2STA


    




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